2023-2024 B1G Basketball Thread

[grillrat]

And yes, the free throw disparity was large, but A) 10 of those free throws were in the last 30 seconds of overtime when NW was intentionally fouling / technical shots. and B) That's also the difference when you drive / shoot points in the paint versus taking nearly 30 shots from behind the arc.

[grillrat]

I know we have a lot of Purdue fans here and I don't think we have any Northwestern fans (I miss @nuwildcat ) but you have to feel for Northwestern fans, that is a rough way to lose. To have the #2 team in the Nation on the ropes in their own building then lose in OT is painful.

This is where I disagree with ELA.  Last year, Purdue loses that game.  It's the improved guard play of Jones and Loyer (Loyer is not great, but still better than last year) that has kept Purdue from losing several games this year.
Bear in mind, Purdue has played the hardest schedule in the nation so far this year.

[ELA]

And yes, the free throw disparity was large, but A) 10 of those free throws were in the last 30 seconds of overtime when NW was intentionally fouling / technical shots. and B) That's also the difference when you drive / shoot points in the paint versus taking nearly 30 shots from behind the arc.

Just take the ref win when you get it.  We all get it at times

[ELA]

Seems like Penny is done at Memphis. They have lost 4 in a row to USF, Tulane, UAB and Rice. Between Penny and Howard, hiring alums who were heroes of the 1992 NCAA tournament isn't paying off. Cincinnati better not hire Nick Van Exel.  ASU with Hurley as well

[ELA]

And to be clear, I love how painter has rebuilt his defense around Edey.  It's like a box in one in the three-point era.  Four guys seem to kind of zone shooters, So that there will never be a total breakdown, but nobody will ever be totally covered either. Which I think is the smart way to play it.  The shooting percentage from three does not seem to be overly tied to how contested the shots are.  But then it also means Edey is fully engaged on rim protection and rebounding.  The numbers suggest this is smart. But it also means on a night. When you have a couple of hot shooters, you will be in trouble, if you do not get an absurd advantage at the FT line 

[FearlessF]

Just take the ref win when you get it.  We all get it at times

@ Home

[ELA]

@ Home

I've always said that if you complain about a road whistle in basketball, you don't watch enough basketball.  If you get a foul disparity at home, go ahead and bitch.

I love that Purdue has shifted their defense around Edey.  That used to be.college basketball.  Adjusting to your personnel.  Now you follow the efficiencies, so every team looks the same.  The SEC is the worst.  Kentucky,.Alabama and Auburn all just shoot guarded 3s.  The computers love them,.and when they go in (which is unrelated to the defense) they look awesome.  But there's no Plan B

[medinabuckeye1]

Penn State got a road win last night. That rearranges the projected final standings a bit.

[medinabuckeye1]

Badgers in Lincoln tonight is a pick.

[medinabuckeye1]

Badgers in Lincoln tonight is a pick.

I'll do a full update to the projections after tonight's UW/UNL game but last night's PSU@RU upset rearranges things substantially because they were projected to finish a game apart and both in ties so:

• PSU moves up and replaces RU in the projected tie with Iowa and tOSU for 9th, 10th, and 11th at 7-13.  
• RU moves down and replaces PSU in the projected tie with IU for 12th/13th at 6-14.  

Iowa projects to win the tie with PSU and tOSU because they don't play in Columbus.  PSU second with a 2-2 H2H2H and tOSU last because they don't host Iowa.  Rutgers wins the tie with IU because they don't visit Bloomington.  Thus, the 9-13 seeds are now projected to be:

• #9 Iowa
• #10 Penn State
• #11 Ohio State
• #12 Rutgers
• #13 Indiana

The Wednesday games are now projected as:

• #11 tOSU vs #14 M
• #12 RU vs #13 IU

I think that @Brutus Buckeye will like that, LoL.  

[FearlessF]

I'm headed to Lincoln

probably watch the game from the Kinkaider Taproom in the Haymarket a few blocks from the Vault

[boilerbanger]

Purdue needs a 46-8 FT advantage to beat Northwestern in OT.

I do believe Edey is better this year, and they are coaching the defense around him better this year.  But the freshmen have not made the leap I anticipated.  I actually think this team is worse than last year's.  Granted that's still enough to maybe be the best team in the Big Ten, and still one of the 5 best teams in the country.  So in a single elimination tournament, they should still be fine, but something seems slightly off.

With the caveats that they will beat MSU by 30 in Mackey, which even happens when MSU is great and Purdue sucks

@ELA I couldn’t disagree with you more on the freshman guard improvement. I think smith has made a significant jump this year and Loyer has improved as well in his efficiency.  lance Jones is a perfect piece to the puzzle we needed for a ball handler.  Our 3 pt shot g has gone from 32.5% last year to 40% this year.  This years team is better, no doubt in my mind.  

[grillrat]

 Nw shot 14/27 from 3 and 56% overall.  You don't lose many games when you shoot that well.

To add to this, apparently there was a graphic on the BTN postgame coverage that talked about this (taken from the Purdue Rivals board):

From the B1G Show:

763-1
Record of teams in the last 25 years in all college basketball that have:

Score 95 or more points
Shoot 55% or better
20+ assists
10 or fewer turnovers

Northwestern first team to lose.

[ELA]

You can tell this is the non football weekend, with the conferences putting a bunch of marquee games this weekend

• #2 Purdue at #6 Wisconsin
• #3 North Carolina at #7 Duke
• #4 Houston at #8 Kansas
• #5 Tennessee at #10 Kentucky

Too bad #1 UConn isn't playing #9 Marquette.  Then all top 10 teams would play each other