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Mdot21

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Re: 2022 NFL Thread
« Reply #350 on: October 23, 2022, 05:40:44 PM »
Like Justin Fields.  It’s sad to watch.
yeah but the crazy thing is Burrow has no OL and he still plays at an All-Pro level. Fields sucks without an OL, as most QBs would. Burrow hasn't had an OL since day one in the NFL and has just been stupid good and even dragged a team to the Super Bowl. 

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« Reply #351 on: October 23, 2022, 05:44:49 PM »
yeah but the crazy thing is Burrow has no OL and he still plays at an All-Pro level. Fields sucks without an OL, as most QBs would. Burrow hasn't had an OL since day one in the NFL and has just been stupid good and even dragged a team to the Super Bowl.
No comparison. Just watch the Bears once. He usually has defensive players getting to him at the same time he gets the ball. 
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« Reply #352 on: October 24, 2022, 04:18:32 AM »
Lot of low quality football played so far this season. Tried watching last night’s Sunday evening game, Miami Vs Pittsburgh - a 16-10 crapfest. Add several other terrible recent primetime games - Colts/Broncos and most any Broncos game this month, and what’s going on? The preseason so shortened it’s resulting in bad football this deep into the season? The 17th game meaning more starters will find a way to dip out on games? Congrats to the New York teams, but the NFL is noticeably a tougher watch this season.

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« Reply #353 on: October 24, 2022, 07:39:08 AM »
they need to add that pre-season game back and get rid of the 17th game. And get rid of Thursday night football. 

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« Reply #354 on: October 24, 2022, 09:18:03 AM »
thoughts: god damn they should’ve never traded Slay away. Would have loved to see Okudah and him actually get to play together. Oh well. F Fatty Patricia.

Goff had a bad day, but I’d stick with him. Don’t draft a guy in 2023 in the 1st. The only ones I’d feel comfortable taking 1st are CJ and Bryce and I’ve got questions about both. Neither is a sure thing. Detroit needs a SURE thing. If you’ve got a top 2-3 pick, don’t even think about it- take Will Anderson from Bama and just be done with it. Your second pick in the 1st absolutely needs to be a DT. If you’re lucky Jalen Carter will slide to you, if not- just go all out on DTs. Try to get whoever you can. And if Mazi Smith is there in the 2nd- take him. If they can get like Will Anderson, Jalen Carter, and Mazi Smith - DEAR LORD that defense will turn around in a flash. Need beefcake up the middle on the DL to keep those LBs clean and stop allowing offenses to just ram it down their throat on the ground.

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« Reply #355 on: October 24, 2022, 10:58:52 AM »
yeah but the crazy thing is Burrow has no OL and he still plays at an All-Pro level. Fields sucks without an OL, as most QBs would. Burrow hasn't had an OL since day one in the NFL and has just been stupid good and even dragged a team to the Super Bowl.

Not that I disagree, but your stance on a former Buckeye is interesting to me.  Me, I'm usually looking for reasons why former Bama players in the league actually suck.  

Which reminds me....despite Philadelphia's success, I still can't bring myself to believe in Jalen Hurts.  I didn't see it in college, and I can't see this voodoo they've got going lasting with what they're doing.  Mind you, he's really good at what they're asking of him, but either a defensive line is going to match them one day, or somebody will scheme how to stop the simple base they're running.  I may have blinders on, but I think just like away from Bama, Hurts won't look nearly so good when the talent around him gets equaled out.  I'm thinking OU in the playoffs with him.  

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« Reply #356 on: October 24, 2022, 11:02:10 AM »
perhaps Jalen Hurts has been coached up and has worked on his craft

he does seem much more accurate with the ball than he did in college

maybe that is just the limited snaps I've watched this season

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« Reply #357 on: October 24, 2022, 11:10:43 AM »
It could be, and admittedly I've mostly only seen him in one game against the Cowboys this year.  

He still doesn't look like he sees the field well or reads a defense at an elite level.  They're running the hell out of that zone read play, but somebody's going to come up with a solution to that.  Mostly, it looked like Philly's lines were better than Dallas' lines, at least for the first half.  Since Dallas has pretty good linemen, I'm assuming that's been the case most of the way for the Eagles.  

That's exactly what I thought about him at Alabama, and felt vindicated when he was at Oklahoma.  He'd throw 5 yards slants to guys like Waddle, Jeudy, etc. who would then outrun the field for 70 yard TDs and his passing numbers would look really cool.  In 2016 when he finally ran into Dave Aranda's defense in Baton Rouge, they scored a whopping 10 points, and yes, I do still have pictures at the ready of Alabama committing THREE uncalled holds on the play while he scampered to the endzone for their lone TD.  Fast-forward to 2019, he faced a somewhat lesser Tiger defense in the playoffs, and when his OU linemen couldn't overwhelm everybody, he was who I thought he was--a guy who can do some nice things when everybody around him is better than the other team.  

I freely admit he may have gotten better and I don't watch him enough to see it.  Perception is a hard thing to overcome in any case.  

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« Reply #358 on: October 24, 2022, 11:21:28 AM »
in regards to Jalen Hurts, I think he's a solid starting NFL QB. Not much more. But he doesn't need to be much more for that team to win a lot of games. He's got 1,514 yards passing, 67% completion, 6 TD passes vs 2 INTs, and on the ground he's got about another 300 yards rushing and 6 TDs. Decent, not amazing numbers. He's never going to be Mahomes or Rodgers as a passer or Lamar Jackson as a runner- but he's efficient and effective enough to win so long as he limits turnovers.

Hurts has been keeping the chains moving for that offense and he's not turning the ball over, and he's just running their offense and being efficient and making a couple big plays a game. And on a team that is LOADED like the Eagles and has a top 5 OL and top 5 DL (and this game is still won in the trenches) - that's more than enough for a winning formula. Eagles are showing this year that this game is won/lost in the trenches. Always has been. Always will be. They very well might have the best OL and best DL in the entire league this year.

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« Reply #359 on: October 24, 2022, 11:28:19 AM »
re: Lions/Okudah. Dude had 15 tackles. TON of those in run support. Great effort...he flies around the field and he can tackle and hit- but you don't really want that if you're Detroit. You don't want a DB being your leading tackler. That just tells you that your front 7 and LBs BLOW against the run. And yeah...they do. The interior of the DL is a joke and so are their LBs.

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« Reply #360 on: October 24, 2022, 12:12:39 PM »
Some of you guys who really pay attention to the league may know the answer to a question I have.  

Bengals have a RT named Lael Collins who I know about only because he fits my only interest in the NFL, which is spotting former Tigers and rooting for them to have a good game.  He did play LT at LSU for his final two seasons, but we were always lead to believe he projected as a guard in the pros.  He was taken by the Cowboys and iirc originally played LG for them, where he was an absolute beast.  Next thing I knew, they moved him to RT where he was "okay" but also good for a couple costly false starts per game.  Now he's been traded to the Bengals--still playing RT--where in the admittedly infrequent looks I get of him, he looks dismal.  

This may not be the board for Dallas fans who would know such a thing, but my question is why was he ever put at tackle when he was such a monster at guard?  Doesn't look like tackle suits him OR the teams employing him.  

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« Reply #361 on: October 24, 2022, 12:27:21 PM »

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« Reply #362 on: October 24, 2022, 12:29:20 PM »
also...Aidan Hutchinson has 5 sacks this season. Everyone else on the Detroit Lions defense? 4 sacks. Combined. 

Sweet moves right here...


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« Reply #363 on: October 24, 2022, 12:32:41 PM »
oh yeah and Kenneth Walker III is really god damn fkn good. was PRAYING he'd be there when the Lions picked in the 2nd rd.


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