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Topic: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #112 on: February 04, 2022, 09:59:05 AM »
They get three pastries OOC and play at Iowa and get Nebbie at home, MSU at home and OSU in Cbus.




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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #113 on: February 04, 2022, 10:04:57 AM »
it is a pretty easy schedule - but @Iowa will be tough - playing @Kinnick is always a sonofabitch. They get Penn State and Michigan State at home - which is always nice to have those in Ann Arbor vs going on the road. And then obviously @ Ohio State to end the season looms large - that'll very likely be an L.
Ohio State should be loaded, again. But that’s not their issue.

like I said you’re good at what you practice and Ohio State bases they’re running game off of defenses having to drop back to protect against their deadly passing game.

but when they had to run, when it was the only choice, they were not very good or very consistent. And it wasn’t just Michigan in Oregon they were times in other games where they struggle to run the ball and obvious running situations. 

part of the issue is this concept of “putting your best five offensive lineman out there“ even though they were all tackles and there were no guards.  That helped them and pass protection but really did not help them in critical running situation’s.  I believe that will change next season but we will see.

obviously they struggle to defend against strong running teams and that’s partially because, once again that’s not what they practice against. Their second major issue was they had no way to hide what the defense was doing. Because of that, good office of coordinators could easily manipulate and scheme around them like Oregon did and Michigan did.

I am optimistic that Knowles Will start to fairly quickly change that, as he is known for someone who brings in decision to opposing quarterbacks and offensive coordinators but I don’t think it’s going to be an overnight thing.  He certainly has a ton of talent to work with though so we shall see. 
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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #114 on: February 04, 2022, 10:07:51 AM »
I wonder to what extent UM just had a "bad game" against UGA and the teams really are closer than it appeared, it happens.  Bennett dropped some dimes on them and Michigan couldn't get anything going on offense, but they had some chances.

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #115 on: February 04, 2022, 10:10:38 AM »
I wonder to what extent UM just had a "bad game" against UGA and the teams really are closer than it appeared, it happens.  Bennett dropped some dimes on them and Michigan couldn't get anything going on offense, but they had some chances.
All you need to do is look at Georgia versus Alabama, just a few weeks apart, and two completely different results.  

I was at the Georgia Michigan game in person and while yes-Georgia was physically superior they also were well prepared for the unique things that Michigan was doing on defense.  

Georgia was the best team and proved it beyond any doubt so it’s hard to compare against that. But Michigan manhandled Ohio State and probably would’ve manhandled just about everybody else besides Alabama and Georgia
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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #116 on: February 04, 2022, 10:14:15 AM »
I will add, that Ryan Day was very easily outcoached when they played Michigan in terms of scheme. That does not happen to him very often.

But part of the reason for that is because he underestimated how easily Gattis could manipulate Ohio State’s defensive scheme with misdirection running plays an easy 2 on 1 blocking schemes. His hope that his offiense could overcome that with more points failed miserably.

But to his credit he has completely cleaned house on the defensive side of the ball. Remember, the last time he did that he brought in that unknown dude named Jeff Hafley in the year 2019 and Ohio State had the number one defense in the country in terms of total yards allowed. But unfortunately Hafley only stayed one year just like McDonald did at Michigan.  
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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #117 on: February 04, 2022, 10:20:17 AM »
The best example I can think of to illustrate what I’m talking about is Ohio State’s first possession of the second half versus Michigan.

They got themselves in third and two and went to the line of scrimmage with an RPO.

Michigan knew exactly what they were doing and showed a pass defense look, that was actually totally designed to stop an off tackle run which is exactly what Ohio State ran and Michigan stuffed it. Instead of driving for the go ahead score they punted away and Michigan never looked back.   

This past season Ohio State did not have the defensive scheme or coaching to pull those kinds of things off against other teams. The one exception is they actually did do a few things like that in the Rose Bowl in the second half. And it worked because they got a couple critical stops when they needed them by disguising what the Defense was doing
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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #118 on: February 04, 2022, 10:42:10 AM »
I wonder to what extent UM just had a "bad game" against UGA and the teams really are closer than it appeared, it happens.  Bennett dropped some dimes on them and Michigan couldn't get anything going on offense, but they had some chances.
The offense not playing as well doesn't surprise me. Michigan got down fast and their offense isn't built to recover - if you're down 14 or 17 in a flash - Cade McNamara isn't the type of QB that can throw you back into a game. He just isn't that guy. The offense went about as expected considering the circumstances imo. JJ McCarthy might've given them a better chance - but the problem is he was still too green. That's why Jim should've started JJ from day one and made Cade the back-up. Sooner or later Michigan was going to have to come from behind. That was seriously the first game all year where Michigan was in a hole - and they were in the hole fast. JJ can throw you back into a game imo - he's got that ability. Cade just ain't that guy.

Their defense had a bad game for sure. CB Vincent Gray just stopped running and got burned for a TD. They fell for a trick play and gave up a TD - they hadn't fallen for trick plays all year. They didn't really have an answer for the TE's. They got burnt by Cook 3-4 times for huge gains in the pass game when he was man to man with LB's. Stetson Bennett was getting the ball out quick and dropping dimes. The Michigan pass rush duo was a non-factor. That was by far the worst their defense played all year for 60 mins and the worst it played since it had a 2nd half collapse vs Michigan State.

UGA was the best team in the nation though. Without question. They proved it by spanking Michigan and then conquering their demons and getting the monkey off their backs the following week vs Bama.

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #119 on: February 06, 2022, 11:42:53 AM »
What's up with Gattis?

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #120 on: February 06, 2022, 02:23:23 PM »
Rolling the dice there
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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #121 on: February 06, 2022, 02:29:00 PM »

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #122 on: February 06, 2022, 05:22:48 PM »

https://twitter.com/TomVH/status/1490378413613408256?t=qDBMMDXD9gXPWmrQNy5Rng&s=19
Gattis is still a complete unknown as far as I'm concerned. This was not his offense at Michigan, he never ran the show. Harbaugh's fingerprints were all over it and in it everywhere. All the "insiders" on the Michigan blogs and boards have said as much. 

And there is no doubt that after the 2-4 season when Harbaugh was on the hot-seat and forced to take a 50% paycut - that the AD wanted Harbaugh to wipe the entire staff and start over. Including Gattis. Gattis knows this.

The move to Miami makes sense when you think about it like this: he'll actually get to run his own show on offense and he'll be at a place where he's wanted and not having to worry about looking over his shoulder. 

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #123 on: February 06, 2022, 07:14:06 PM »
Hard to know what’s really going on.

Most unemotional observers felt that the two Coordinators ( Gattis and McDonald) where are the primary drivers of Michigan’s schematic success this year, and a lot of their success was schematic.

Now they’re both gone including your Broyles award winner but Michigan fans are reacting as if it’s a great thing and the real wizard is Harbaugh.  

Could prove to be true but that’s a hard sell.  I pay attention a lot to what Michigan is running on both sides of the ball and I can tell you they ran things this year in defense they had never run before and the same is true in offense these last several seasons. 
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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #124 on: February 06, 2022, 10:46:26 PM »
Now they’re both gone including your Broyles award winner but Michigan fans are reacting as if it’s a great thing and the real wizard is Harbaugh. 
I don't know if anyone is claiming Harbaugh is a wizard. 

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Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #125 on: February 06, 2022, 10:51:08 PM »
Well I know Weiss brings a lot of the Ravens run schemes- so he makes a good OC candidate or even if not OC- some continuity.   
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