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Title: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 04, 2022, 12:22:26 PM
No surprise, David Ojabo declares for the Draft
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 04, 2022, 12:40:49 PM
yeah, would've loved to have him back, but he's being projected as a top 10-20 pick. You have to cash in on that. I think any good coach worth a damn would encourage his player to go get his money. Selfishly would love to have him back, but if he has a serious injury or a down year- he'd have cost himself millions. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 04, 2022, 03:46:16 PM
Hey, it's 2016-2018 all over again!

https://twitter.com/nickbaumgardner/status/1478463635324387329?s=20
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 04, 2022, 04:48:10 PM
Hey, it's 2016-2018 all over again!

https://twitter.com/nickbaumgardner/status/1478463635324387329?s=20
they'll come calling....again....but I don't think he leaves. He grew up in Ann Arbor, Michigan football is in his blood, he worships Bo, his son Jay is on the Michigan staff, and his father and mother live next door to him and watch his kids all the time.

The guy took a 50% pay-cut to stay at Michigan. When reporters asked him about it he said something of the lines of, it's just money, I'd do this job for free. 

Michigan will give him a fat raise and he'll probably stay. Just my two cents.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 04, 2022, 04:57:24 PM
I still think the portal is going to make a lot of these guys reconsider.  I don't know why any coach, with options, would choose to stay in college.  The money is great at the top, but so is NFL money
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 04, 2022, 05:01:37 PM
I still think the portal is going to make a lot of these guys reconsider.  I don't know why any coach, with options, would choose to stay in college.  The money is great at the top, but so is NFL money
That's true, but as Mdot says, Jim is a weirdo. I think he's got the mindset to be a college coach. He's too weird to be an NFL coach again... He rubs WAY too many people the wrong way. 

I personally can't imagine how someone would want to deal with groveling to HS kids trying to beg them to come to your school for 80% of the year, as opposed to the NFL. But I can't imagine most of what I hear about Harbaugh, so maybe it works for him?
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 05, 2022, 12:33:28 PM
Michigan DL coach Shaun Nua reportedly going to USC. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 05, 2022, 04:28:49 PM
Chris Hinton going pro as well
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: EastAthens on January 05, 2022, 05:56:05 PM
I still think the portal is going to make a lot of these guys reconsider.  I don't know why any coach, with options, would choose to stay in college.  The money is great at the top, but so is NFL money
Dealing with idiot 17 year olds is a pain in the ass, so is dealing with idiot owners and entitled millionaires in the NFL.  Pick your poison.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 05, 2022, 06:06:04 PM
CFB recruiting takes way more time because of convincing,selling, begging talent to come.NFL just grab what's yours
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 05, 2022, 07:14:32 PM
Chris Hinton going pro as well
that one is a bit of a shocker. thought for sure he'd be back. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 05, 2022, 07:15:30 PM
CFB recruiting takes way more time because of convincing,selling, begging talent to come.NFL just grab what's yours
I'm with you here. I'm not begging some snot nosed 17 year old punk with shitstains in his underwear to come play for me, and then begging him to stay when he's upset about not playing or homesick and wants to go crying home to his mommy in the portal.

If you've got the option, give me the NFL all damn day long.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on January 05, 2022, 07:31:23 PM
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Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on January 05, 2022, 07:41:54 PM
I actually think the worst part of the NFL isn't the millionaires, it's the bottom of the roster guys. You don't get much depth in the NFL, and injuries always happen. So you end up signing guys off the street to fill holes, sometimes the week of the game. Can you imagine being in such a high pressure, high stakes job, and you are putting in a left guard who you just met and who was working at Piggly Wiggly last week?
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 05, 2022, 08:21:08 PM
I actually think the worst part of the NFL isn't the millionaires, it's the bottom of the roster guys. You don't get much depth in the NFL, and injuries always happen. So you end up signing guys off the street to fill holes, sometimes the week of the game. Can you imagine being in such a high pressure, high stakes job, and you are putting in a left guard who you just met and who was working at Piggly Wiggly last week?
True. But sometimes the guy you found off the street bagging groceries is a hall of fame level player: Kurt Warner or James Harrison. 

These guys you sign off the street are still pros, so I think coaches just expect them to be professionals and take their jobs/assignments seriously and hope for the best.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on January 06, 2022, 08:24:08 AM
Michigan's pick up of transfer 6th year senior center Victor Oluwatimi from Virginia is a big plus given the graduation of Vastardis.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 06, 2022, 12:44:36 PM
Michigan's pick up of transfer 6th year senior center Victor Oluwatimi from Virginia is a big plus given the graduation of Vastardis.
LOL, understatement much?

You return 4/5 of your OL, and replace the one you lost with a Rimington finalist.

I think the CFP blowout loss prevents it, but before the game, but after they added him, I thought there was a decent chance that UM was #1 in the preseason poll next year.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 06, 2022, 10:18:06 PM
https://twitter.com/SamWebb77/status/1479276052237201413?t=YHQRW3zwwzJtxh2MXyMUhA&s=19
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 06, 2022, 10:35:00 PM
Dax Hill declares for NFL Draft.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 06, 2022, 10:35:42 PM
LOL, understatement much?

You return 4/5 of your OL, and replace the one you lost with a Rimington finalist.

I think the CFP blowout loss prevents it, but before the game, but after they added him, I thought there was a decent chance that UM was #1 in the preseason poll next year.
 Not seeing that.  The 3 players that carried them the most are  gone
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 06, 2022, 10:43:47 PM
https://twitter.com/SamWebb77/status/1479276052237201413?t=YHQRW3zwwzJtxh2MXyMUhA&s=19
if he does leave, I would hope they go after an offensive minded coach who prioritizes throwing the football. I don't know where you find the "next" Ryan Day- but I'd try like hell to find someone as close to that as possible. 

JJ McCarthy is talented af. He's got to be the guy in 2022 and they need to transition the entire offense towards the passing game. They'll have really good skill talent in 2022. Ronnie Bell will be back healthy. Sounds like Erick All is coming back at TE. Andrel Anthony is going to be a stud imo. Roman Wilson & Cornelius Johnson are pretty good receivers. They brought in a pair of top100-ish WR recruits in Tyler Morris and Darrius Clemons. Donovan Edwards is a match-up nightmare in the pass game. 

A really creative coach who runs a modern passing offense would turn that group into a monster.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on January 06, 2022, 11:19:46 PM
if he does leave, I would hope they go after an offensive minded coach who prioritizes throwing the football. I don't know where you find the "next" Ryan Day- but I'd try like hell to find someone as close to that as possible.

JJ McCarthy is talented af. He's got to be the guy in 2022 and they need to transition the entire offense towards the passing game. They'll have really good skill talent in 2022. Ronnie Bell will be back healthy. Sounds like Erick All is coming back at TE. Andrel Anthony is going to be a stud imo. Roman Wilson & Cornelius Johnson are pretty good receivers. They brought in a pair of top100-ish WR recruits in Tyler Morris and Darrius Clemons. Donovan Edwards is a match-up nightmare in the pass game.

A really creative coach who runs a modern passing offense would turn that group into a monster.
Gattis ain't enough anymore?
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 07, 2022, 01:55:06 AM
Not seeing that.  The 3 players that carried them the most are  gone
they lost way too much on defense.

Aidan Hutchinson, David Ojabo, Dax Hill, Chris Hinton, and Josh Ross off to the NFL Draft. Brad Hawkins graduated. That's 6 starters on defense. And rumors are Vincent Gray might declare for the NFL draft. That'd be 7 starters. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 07, 2022, 01:56:39 AM
Gattis ain't enough anymore?
Not really sure what Gattis is. Don't think he'd be offered the job anyway if Harbaugh left for the NFL.

They need to find a coach that will develop JJ McCarthy and air the shit out of the football. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 07, 2022, 02:34:43 PM
Sounds like Harbaugh to the Raiders is imminent?

https://twitter.com/AmberTheoharis/status/1479523053587484674?s=20
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 07, 2022, 03:13:37 PM
nice

:s_bye2:
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 07, 2022, 08:20:05 PM
Sounds like Harbaugh to the Raiders is imminent?

https://twitter.com/AmberTheoharis/status/1479523053587484674?s=20
Thanks for the one great year coach. See ya later. 

I’ve been ready to move on for awhile now. I don’t think he’ll be as successful in the NFL as he was almost a decade ago. It’s even more of a passing league now, and he just has zero clue when it comes to the passing game.

It’s odd as f***k that a former QB struggles with the passing game and would rather run the ball 60 times a game.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 08, 2022, 03:25:33 PM
well, he certainly is odd as f***k
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 09, 2022, 11:08:58 AM
Who is on the list for a replacement, should JH bolt for the NFL?

Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 09, 2022, 12:05:13 PM
Charlie Weiss or jay Harbaugh
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 09, 2022, 12:52:32 PM
If I were Michigan, my first call would be Dave Aranda, with Joe Brady as OC
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 09, 2022, 01:19:44 PM
Not sure I would like to Dave Aranda in Ann Arbor. That could be lethal.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 09, 2022, 03:01:41 PM
If I were Michigan, my first call would be Dave Aranda, with Joe Brady as OC
that would be my freaking dream scenario. don't get my hopes up.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 09, 2022, 03:03:36 PM
Not sure I would like to Dave Aranda in Ann Arbor. That could be lethal.
Pretty sure he just inked a hefty extension
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 09, 2022, 03:09:14 PM
CB Vincent Gray declares for the NFL Draft. Not sure why, he's not getting drafted. 

That's now 7 starters on defense....

DE/OLB Aidan Hutchinson 
DE/OLB David Ojabo 
DT Chris Hinton 
LB Josh Ross 
DB Dax Hill
CB Vincent Gray
S Brad Hawkins
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 10, 2022, 06:07:44 PM
Dolphins owner and Michigan super-booster Stephen Ross fires Brian Flores, but says he won't go after Jim Harbaugh to replace Flores. Apparently Ross is trying to keep Harbaugh at Michigan.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/10/next-move-for-jim-harbaugh-could-be-an-extension-at-michigan/
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on January 14, 2022, 07:57:56 AM
Harbaugh has hired Mike Elston as the new defensive line coach to replace Shaun Nua.  Elston is a former LB for Michigan in the 90s and has been the DL coach at Notre Dame.  Great hire IMO.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/01/13/mike-elston-michigan-wolverines-defensive-line-coach-notre-dame/6517163001/ (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/01/13/mike-elston-michigan-wolverines-defensive-line-coach-notre-dame/6517163001/)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 16, 2022, 04:49:29 PM
Harbaugh has hired Mike Elston as the new defensive line coach to replace Shaun Nua.  Elston is a former LB for Michigan in the 90s and has been the DL coach at Notre Dame.  Great hire IMO.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/01/13/mike-elston-michigan-wolverines-defensive-line-coach-notre-dame/6517163001/ (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/01/13/mike-elston-michigan-wolverines-defensive-line-coach-notre-dame/6517163001/)
yeah not sure how great of a hire this is. don't really know much about him. not exactly like ND has been pumping out elite DL's. 

All I care about is: can he really coach? Nua was more of a defensive tackles coach than DL coach. Michigan's DE's/Rush LB's were coached mainly by Mike MacDonald. That will probably remain the same as they dive deeper into that Ravens defense, so don't see that changing. 

Nua was a poor coach and really bad recruiter imo. Not sad at all to see him go. The defensive tackles were a big strength for years under Mattison and took a complete nosedive once Nua got here. If Elston can improve the DT position then it's a good hire. And if he can recruit at all then it's a great hire, because Nua sucked at recruiting.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 19, 2022, 03:08:05 PM
Harbaugh has apparently talked to the Bears briefly about the Bears job. 

https://twitter.com/ChiSportUpdates/status/1483798759221907460?s=20
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 19, 2022, 03:18:49 PM
Arkush is a Michigan fanboy, so it might have legs.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 19, 2022, 05:54:36 PM
He isn’t going anywhere.  😂
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 19, 2022, 10:09:21 PM
Harbaugh has apparently talked to the Bears briefly about the Bears job.

https://twitter.com/ChiSportUpdates/status/1483798759221907460?s=20
Doesn't say it's about a job.  Maybe just a chat.  
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 20, 2022, 08:24:27 AM
Smokescreen? 

So the Bears are hiring Jay?
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 20, 2022, 09:08:56 AM
Bruce Feldman says sources inside Michigan tell him Harbs would accept Raiders job if offered.

https://theathletic.com/news/feldman-sources-inside-michigan-think-jim-harbaugh-would-take-las-vegas-raiders-job-if-offered/X3lm9mEDDmuS/
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 22, 2022, 07:51:33 PM
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/if-jim-harbaugh-leaves-for-nfl-panthers-matt-rhule-would-be-very-interested-in-michigan-job/
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 22, 2022, 08:21:27 PM
upgrade for michigan
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 09:22:03 AM
Rhule did a great job rebuilding at two spots, like Harbaugh did, but he left both times before pushing them over the top.

I'm not convinced he'd be an upgrade.  Id take the guy who pushed that bolder over the top in Waco, in Aranda.  And if Joe Brady is willing to be a college OC, that is as close to a home run hire as you get.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 12:27:52 PM
Aranda isn't going anywhere,i'd take a shot at Rhule
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 01:26:09 PM
Aranda isn't going anywhere,i'd take a shot at Rhule
You'd have to be an idiot not to leave Baylor for Michigan
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 01:57:21 PM
Aranda isn't going anywhere,i'd take a shot at Rhule
everyone has their price
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 03:24:42 PM
You'd have to be an idiot not to leave Baylor for Michigan
Just signed an extension which prolly has him by the short hairs unless UM wants to toss more money towards early departure penalty .Which of course I'm guessing at
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on January 23, 2022, 03:44:44 PM
You'd have to be an idiot not to leave Baylor for Michigan
I ... kinda half disagree with this, at least in the short term. 

Baylor is now a place where you can win consistently. You have good talent nearby, strong financial backing, expectations that won't kill you. The biggest downside is you're going to soon be in true lower-tier conference, which is gonna matter, plus you'll have to replace the OC in the next year or two. 

But at Michigan, your success will be defined by a sisyphean task. One game defines the season, and the hopes of making a playoff. And that's a game against a team that on average should be notably better than you. You'll have PSU nipping at you, plus upstarts, and your fans and the money don't want to hear it. You gotta win at the highest level, and gotta pay lip service to doing it the "right" way. 

If I'm Aranda, I probably stay, wait for the next opportunity. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 23, 2022, 03:59:04 PM
The biggest downside is you're going to soon be in true lower-tier conference, which is gonna matter, plus you'll have to replace the OC in the next year or two.
This.  See UConn basketball job, which has gotten "back" into the diminished Big East, which is at least better than the AAC, which is essentially what the Big XII will be
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2022, 08:28:13 PM
Just signed an extension which prolly has him by the short hairs unless UM wants to toss more money towards early departure penalty .Which of course I'm guessing at
money isn't an issue at Baylor, certainly not an issue at Michigan
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 23, 2022, 08:44:58 PM
After what they shelled out for JH they don't want to appear as spend thifts
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 25, 2022, 09:48:04 AM
Aranda likes stability. I don't think he's going anywhere.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 26, 2022, 04:06:07 PM
I would think John knows Jim is gone?

https://twitter.com/TheWolverineOn3/status/1486409083511091205?s=20
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 26, 2022, 04:10:42 PM
I would think John knows Jim is gone?

https://twitter.com/TheWolverineOn3/status/1486409083511091205?s=20
who knows what is going on at this point. 

MacDonald comes from the Ravens, and he was expected to be their next DC in the future. Could mean Jim is gone, could just mean MacDonald is going "home". 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 26, 2022, 04:29:41 PM
Could mean he hates recruiting
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 27, 2022, 07:31:52 AM
He did a very great job in his one year there in Ann Arbor. Kind of reminds me of Jeff Hafley when he left the buckeyes after giving them a top three defense in just one season. I had hoped his departure wouldn’t be too bad since they kept his basic scheme, but it was a disaster. 

I’ll happily crow if I have to on this but I really don’t think Harbaugh is wanted by anybody in the NFL.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 27, 2022, 10:43:22 AM
I’ll happily crow if I have to on this but I really don’t think Harbaugh is wanted by anybody in the NFL.
I am kinda with you. I think NFL teams have concluded he might be more trouble than he's worth. He is a complete f**king weirdo and he's very tough to get along with and work for long-term is the story on him. He just burns people out.

Apparently some Bears insider was saying that Harbaugh demanded $100 million and total draft/personnel control and the talks went nowhere fast.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 27, 2022, 11:01:42 AM
I am kinda with you. I think NFL teams have concluded he might be more trouble than he's worth. He is a complete f**king weirdo and he's very tough to get along with and work for long-term is the story on him. He just burns people out.

Apparently some Bears insider was saying that Harbaugh demanded $100 million and total draft/personnel control and the talks went nowhere fast.
Well if one didn't think He was a complete f**king weirdo before they would after hearing that demand. Don't know if he in fact did,but he could have burned two bridges.Statements like that wouldn't help him in any negotiations at the Collegiate level for sure
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 27, 2022, 11:21:13 AM
Well if one didn't think He was a complete f**king weirdo before they would after hearing that demand. Don't know if he in fact did,but he could have burned two bridges.Statements like that wouldn't help him in any negotiations at the Collegiate level for sure
https://twitter.com/dabearsblog/status/1486103988936364035?s=20
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 27, 2022, 11:37:22 AM
Not that I disagree that Jim is a weirdo, he clearly is. But could this simply be that he likes being at Michigan and he's not going to bolt unless someone literally backs up the Brinks truck and gives him complete control? I mean, if the vibe he's putting out is "I'm not leaving unless you make me an offer I literally can't refuse", and someone makes said offer, he'd take it. 

I hardly believe it has to do with money. He's obviously already rich enough to support his regular diet of steak and milk, and Dockers aren't exactly pricey. And Michigan, even with his renegotiation, is still paying him plenty. 

At UM he basically gets to be the emperor of the football program. HE makes personnel decisions [players/coaches] and doesn't have to clear his recruiting or roster management with a general manager, as he'd have to do in the NFL with draft selection, trades, salary cap mgmt, etc. 

I think he wants complete control more than he cares about $100M. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on January 27, 2022, 12:31:48 PM
Not that I disagree that Jim is a weirdo, he clearly is. But could this simply be that he likes being at Michigan and he's not going to bolt unless someone literally backs up the Brinks truck and gives him complete control? I mean, if the vibe he's putting out is "I'm not leaving unless you make me an offer I literally can't refuse", and someone makes said offer, he'd take it.

I hardly believe it has to do with money. He's obviously already rich enough to support his regular diet of steak and milk, and Dockers aren't exactly pricey. And Michigan, even with his renegotiation, is still paying him plenty.

At UM he basically gets to be the emperor of the football program. HE makes personnel decisions [players/coaches] and doesn't have to clear his recruiting or roster management with a general manager, as he'd have to do in the NFL with draft selection, trades, salary cap mgmt, etc.

I think he wants complete control more than he cares about $100M.

Yes. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 28, 2022, 10:15:41 AM
Harbaugh apparently targeting Tampa Bay Bucs LB coach and former Michigan and Pittsburgh Steelers LB Larry Foote to be DC.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Benthere2 on January 29, 2022, 07:34:29 PM
MN Vikings interviewing Jim H for their open coach.  not sure how much steam is there but it is interesting timing for Michigan
any word on your side?
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 29, 2022, 07:57:53 PM
MN Vikings interviewing Jim H for their open coach.  not sure how much steam is there but it is interesting timing for Michigan
any word on your side?
Considering the Bears, Raiders and UM are balking at his financial demands, the Vikings may fall into him
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 29, 2022, 08:17:08 PM
What is he asking for like Bill Bellichick,Jimmy Johnson type of coin? Because if he is perhaps he has CTE of Aspergers Syndrome
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on January 29, 2022, 08:22:41 PM
What is he asking for like Bill Bellichick,Jimmy Johnson type of coin? Because if he is perhaps he has CTE of Aspergers Syndrome
Do you know how expensive it is to raise children? If you don't let them eat chicken nuggets?
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 29, 2022, 09:09:53 PM
Do you know how expensive it is to raise children? If you don't let them eat chicken nuggets?

(https://i.imgur.com/FMhIzy2.png)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 30, 2022, 10:16:08 AM
What are UM's biggest needs for next season?  Replacing the DEs?
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 30, 2022, 12:00:03 PM
Getting a dialed in HC would be my guess
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 12:51:19 PM
What are UM's biggest needs for next season?  Replacing the DEs?
this is the biggest need without question. Braiden McGregor (6'5, 265) from the 2020 class who was a 5* DE/OLB prospect before injuring his knee the first game of his senior year and missing virtually his entire senior year and falling in the rankings to top 100ish (#123) in the 247Composite - will be tasked with trying to replace the edge rushers. They really need him to have a breakout year in 2022 as a RS Soph.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 31, 2022, 12:54:49 PM
Getting a dialed in HC would be my guess
Raiders hired Josh McDaniels and Bears hired Matt Eberflus. Mega UM-booster and Dolphins Stephen Ross won't hire Jim away from Michigan, so Dolphins are no go. Looks like it's just the Vikings left as an NFL option and according to NFL reporter Ian Rapport - Jim got no offer from the Vikings and they are looking elsewhere.

Seems as if NFL passed on Jim Harbaugh this off-season.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 31, 2022, 01:12:00 PM
I wonder how much he would ask for or if those numbers were gist for the rumor mill
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on February 01, 2022, 05:17:32 AM
Jim Harbaugh is interviewing with the Vikings on Wednesday.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on February 01, 2022, 05:42:18 AM
They're Nuts,if they hire him M just might get back to being a perennial
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on February 01, 2022, 07:22:12 PM
https://twitter.com/Balas_Wolverine/status/1488663346115227650?s=20&t=kelyXs0onhvxSlpYv_OBaA
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 08:54:20 PM
Jim took them out of the dumpster and got them back on the map, but I do not believe he's the guy to take them over the hump. 

They need to open that offense up, turn the reins over to McCarthy, spread it out and go temp and go bombs away. Was never going to happen under Harbaugh in a million years, he's got no idea how to do that or to allow someone to do that.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 01, 2022, 09:29:09 PM
Texting with someone at the Michigan game right now, Warde Manuel not in his usual box.

If it was still 1995, I like the idea of promoting Gattis, and seeing if it works.  The way recruiting works now, I'm not sure that's tenable
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 10:14:39 PM
Texting with someone at the Michigan game right now, Warde Manuel not in his usual box.

If it was still 1995, I like the idea of promoting Gattis, and seeing if it works.  The way recruiting works now, I'm not sure that's tenable
Not really sold on Gattis to be honest. I think you need to go after Dave Aranda and Joe Brady at OC. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 10:18:37 PM
Urban Meyer to Michigan? Would be pretty wild.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 01, 2022, 10:40:17 PM
sounding like 5* CB Will Johnson could be gonezo if Harbaugh takes the Vikings job and Michigan doesn't have a replacement he likes.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 01, 2022, 10:48:57 PM
Not really sold on Gattis to be honest. I think you need to go after Dave Aranda and Joe Brady at OC.
I've said that all along, just not sure if you can pull that off in February
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on February 01, 2022, 11:35:32 PM
I assume this ends in a way I find funny. Would grab some popcorn if I liked it all that much. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on February 02, 2022, 10:02:34 AM
If Bo Schembechler were A.D. wouldn't Harbaugh be gone already?
Didn't he believe, "You are either a Michigan man, or you are not a Michigan man." 
This business of going off to do an interview during the late-signing period cannot be good for recruiting.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 02, 2022, 10:04:14 AM
If Bo Schembechler were A.D. wouldn't Harbaugh be gone already?
Didn't he believe, "You are either a Michigan man, or you are not a Michigan man."
This business of going off to do an interview during the late-signing period cannot be good for recruiting.
Eh, that would be like if Harbaugh already took the job, but said he's stick around through Signing Day to round out his class
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on February 02, 2022, 07:57:17 PM
Schefter reporting that Harbaugh coming back to Michigan
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2022, 08:42:30 PM
Schefter reporting that Harbaugh coming back to Michigan
F**K. 

I was kind of hoping he'd go to the NFL. I'm ready for a change. Need someone that will modernize the passing offense and bring Michigan's offense into the 21st century. JJ McCarthy has insane talent. He's got high 1st rd talent. He's wasting it at Michigan under Harbaugh. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 02, 2022, 08:44:35 PM
Athletic reporting they never offered him.  I have to imagine interview aren't his friend.

Is UM giving him a raise?  I feel like they need to do something to prevent this from being an annual thing.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2022, 08:47:24 PM
Athletic reporting they never offered him.  I have to imagine interview aren't his friend.

Is UM giving him a raise?  I feel like they need to do something to prevent this from being an annual thing.
dude is a major f**king weirdo, has aspergers, CTE, and he's a hyper competitive type a personality dick. no doubt he sucks at the interview.

Schefty who is the most plugged in NFL reporter there is and is a UM guy tweeted this...sounds like Jim is going to be in Michigan for the long haul.....


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1489033040894611457?s=20&t=cGwlpl9521XkIInqdXxPDA
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2022, 08:49:26 PM
wonder if it was just all a stunt by Harbaugh to make Warde Manuel sweat bullets and give Jim a giant contract with a stupid buyout that would make him almost un-fireable. having to replace a coach this late in the game on NSD is like worst case scenario.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 02, 2022, 09:51:34 PM
I'd love to be Jimmy out of the Big, but I'm a Viking fan
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 02, 2022, 09:52:04 PM
I think if the Vikings offered- he would be going there.  I believe they didn’t.  
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 02, 2022, 09:55:15 PM
smart
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on February 03, 2022, 05:39:48 AM
I think if the Vikings offered- he would be going there.  I believe they didn’t. 
I think Coach Harbaugh interviewed Viking ownership/management and correctly identified it as a shit show.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 03, 2022, 06:36:44 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1489061168413036549
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 03, 2022, 09:25:49 AM
it's just annoying - every time the guy has a good season the NFL crap starts. either shit or get off the pot. soon as he has a down season no NFL talk. soon as he rebounds in a huge way - NFL crap starts all over again.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on February 03, 2022, 09:33:12 AM



 (http://<blockquote class=)Jim Harbaugh told Warde Manuel that this would not be a re-occurring issue and he would stay at Michigan as long as it wants him, per sources.  (http://<blockquote class=)https://t.co/d3NVS4EdLl (https://t.co/d3NVS4EdLl)
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 3, 2022 (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1489033040894611457?ref_src=twsrc^tfw)  ">
Quote
Jim Harbaugh told Warde Manuel that this would not be a re-occurring issue and he would stay at Michigan as long as it wants him, per sources. https://t.co/d3NVS4EdLl (https://t.co/d3NVS4EdLl)
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 3, 2022 (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1489033040894611457?ref_src=twsrc^tfw)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 03, 2022, 09:36:43 AM


 (http://<blockquote)Jim Harbaugh told Warde Manuel that this would not be a re-occurring issue and he would stay at Michigan as long as it wants him, per sources.  (http://<blockquote)https://t.co/d3NVS4EdLl (https://t.co/d3NVS4EdLl)
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 3, 2022 (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1489033040894611457?ref_src=twsrc^tfw)  ">
yeah, saying that and doing something about it is one thing.

I don't think this is the end of the Harbaugh to the NFL bullshit. He'll eventually go back when he gets the right offer imo.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on February 03, 2022, 09:40:23 AM
yeah, saying that and doing something about it is one thing.

I don't think this is the end of the Harbaugh to the NFL bullshit. He'll eventually go back when he gets the right offer imo.

Well, it is a free country.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 03, 2022, 09:50:55 AM
I watched Michigan play twice this year, one outing was fabulous and the other not so much (OSU and UGA).  I watched parts of the MSU game where they seemed just behind the 8 ball too often.  They clearly had a high level team, and nobody won them all.  I think mostly they might need to improve depth on defense a bit, replace the guys they lost, and upgrade on offense at QB some.  I was surprised they defeated OSU who I thought was really good at that point.

Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 03, 2022, 12:52:30 PM
I watched Michigan play twice this year, one outing was fabulous and the other not so much (OSU and UGA).  I watched parts of the MSU game where they seemed just behind the 8 ball too often.  They clearly had a high level team, and nobody won them all.  I think mostly they might need to improve depth on defense a bit, replace the guys they lost, and upgrade on offense at QB some.  I was surprised they defeated OSU who I thought was really good at that point.
looking back - Ohio State was a good matchup for Michigan, and Georgia was a terrible matchup for Michigan. Ohio State front 7 been soft vs the run all year. Georgia's front 7 has been dominant all-year. Michigan lined up and ran right at OSU for 60 mins. Welp, can't do that vs Georgia - doesn't work. My thinking was Michigan would try to spread Georgia out - go tempo and try to get the ball out fast. Welp, Michigan isn't really built to do that and Cade McNamara just can't really do that. I wasn't surprised that Michigan wasn't finding success on offense vs Georgia. I was shocked however that Georgia's offense and Bennett basically did whatever they wanted vs Michigan's defense. 

Michigan's biggest weakness on defense was by far the secondary and the DT's. They recruited the sh*t out of secondary and DT this cycle, but not sure that pays off in year 1 of all the new guys being there - probably won't til year 2 & 3 - although I wouldn't be shocked to see 5* CB Will Johnson come in right away and play at a high level and be the best CB Michigan has had in a minute. CB & RB probably the easiest position for young guys to come in right away and play at a high level. Not sure you can replace a pass rush combo like Hutchinson & Ojabo. They've got Braiden McGregor who has the talent - but he's yet to put it together. 

They need to open the offense up and hand the keys to JJ McCarthy. That kid is so talented it's not even funny. He's got a big arm and he's accurate, he can really run, and he can escape the pocket and throw on the run accurately as well. They need to just give him the reins and build an offense around him. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 03, 2022, 12:56:41 PM
Well, it is a free country.
yeah, well no shit.

not saying that. Bama/Saban never had to deal with this yearly. Urban at UF/OSU didn't have to deal with this shit yearly.

Harbaugh could easily put an end to it by refusing to interview for NFL jobs, reaffirm his commitment to Michigan, and basically hang up on NFL teams when they call. He never exactly shuts that talk down.

It has gotten old. We had to deal with this yearly his first 3-4 years, and the only reason it stopped is because he started losing and had couple bad seasons and a really disastrous 2-4 season. Soon as he wins the B1G and makes the playoff- that shit starts up again.

I really just want him back in the NFL. I'm done with him, over it, and have been for a minute. Only reason I am happy he's back right now is because him leaving this late in the game on NSD would've f***ked Michigan - they wouldn't have been able to hire anyone good and they'd have lost 5* CB Will Johnson and probably some other guys. IF he does this shit again next year, I'll REALLY be done with him - and I would just hope he decided to take the NFL job in Dec or early Jan so Michigan can actually have time to find a replacement. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 03, 2022, 01:00:40 PM
https://twitter.com/Reflog_18/status/1489296318925316105?t=PzzRtlBORbpI042Gbo4U-Q&s=19
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 03, 2022, 01:29:40 PM
Turning now to 2022, big year for Gattis.  UM seems to keep finding defensive talent, but they lost a lot, and their DC.

But...the offense appears to be absolutely loaded.  I expect Edwards to have an increased role, and the only OL that graduated is being replaced by a Rimington finalist.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 03, 2022, 06:24:07 PM
Turning now to 2022, big year for Gattis.  UM seems to keep finding defensive talent, but they lost a lot, and their DC.

But...the offense appears to be absolutely loaded.  I expect Edwards to have an increased role, and the only OL that graduated is being replaced by a Rimington finalist.
they are also losing the RT Steuber - so need to replace the RT. But yeah, they lucked out as they'll be replacing the graduating C Vastardis with a guy that is probably better than Varstadis. So what was a really good OL in 2021 shouldn't really fall off in 2022 - should be a really good OL again.

Plus they also get Ronnie Bell back from injury - who was their best WR by far - and their pair of 2021 5* froshies QB JJ McCarthy and RB Donovan Edwards have a whole year of experience and some real playing time under their belts now. Both these guys should take jumps in 2022. 

Big-time put up or shut up year but not for Gattis imo - for Harbaugh. That isn't Gattis' offense- it's not like he has total control. Harbaugh's fingerprints are all over that motherf**ker. 

IF they aren't running way more tempo, way more zone read, way more RPO stuff and McCarthy isn't starting at QB and Edwards isn't getting at least 500 yards receiving and being used on wheel routes multiple times a game and sent into motion from the backfield and split out wide regularly - something is wrong and Jim just has to fire himself and go to the NFL. Seriously.  
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 03, 2022, 09:20:04 PM
I look more at Edwards.  He is an absolute cheat code.  He is a very good running back, and an absolute elite pass catcher.  He is what guys like LeVeon Bell and Marshall Faulk became as pros, as a sophomore.  If Gattis is worth his price he could win a Silver Football.  He's scary talented.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on February 04, 2022, 08:07:09 AM
On offense Michigan needs a bruiser RB/FB.  On defense they need a lot, players need to step up pretty much at every position.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 04, 2022, 09:53:48 AM
Michigan’s season was no fluke.  

They practice and bring a level of physicality most teams can’t match, and now have the skill players in offense to keep defenses way off balance. 

Even with the loss of those two elite pass rusher’s, the defensive scheme will be competitive at worst.

Looking at their schedule, which seems a bit on the easy side to me, I don’t see any reason they should not go into every game with the expectation of a win.  
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 04, 2022, 09:56:58 AM
Michigan’s season was no fluke. 

They practice and bring a level of physicality most teams can’t match, and now have the skill players in offense to keep defenses way off balance.

Even with the loss of those two elite pass rusher’s, the defensive scheme will be competitive at worst.

Looking at their schedule, which seems a bit on the easy side to me, I don’t see any reason they should not go into every game with the expectation of a win. 
it is a pretty easy schedule - but @Iowa will be tough - playing @Kinnick is always a sonofabitch. They get Penn State and Michigan State at home - which is always nice to have those in Ann Arbor vs going on the road. And then obviously @ Ohio State to end the season looms large - that'll very likely be an L.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 04, 2022, 09:59:05 AM
They get three pastries OOC and play at Iowa and get Nebbie at home, MSU at home and OSU in Cbus.



Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 04, 2022, 10:04:57 AM
it is a pretty easy schedule - but @Iowa will be tough - playing @Kinnick is always a sonofabitch. They get Penn State and Michigan State at home - which is always nice to have those in Ann Arbor vs going on the road. And then obviously @ Ohio State to end the season looms large - that'll very likely be an L.
Ohio State should be loaded, again. But that’s not their issue.

like I said you’re good at what you practice and Ohio State bases they’re running game off of defenses having to drop back to protect against their deadly passing game.

but when they had to run, when it was the only choice, they were not very good or very consistent. And it wasn’t just Michigan in Oregon they were times in other games where they struggle to run the ball and obvious running situations. 

part of the issue is this concept of “putting your best five offensive lineman out there“ even though they were all tackles and there were no guards.  That helped them and pass protection but really did not help them in critical running situation’s.  I believe that will change next season but we will see.

obviously they struggle to defend against strong running teams and that’s partially because, once again that’s not what they practice against. Their second major issue was they had no way to hide what the defense was doing. Because of that, good office of coordinators could easily manipulate and scheme around them like Oregon did and Michigan did.

I am optimistic that Knowles Will start to fairly quickly change that, as he is known for someone who brings in decision to opposing quarterbacks and offensive coordinators but I don’t think it’s going to be an overnight thing.  He certainly has a ton of talent to work with though so we shall see. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 04, 2022, 10:07:51 AM
I wonder to what extent UM just had a "bad game" against UGA and the teams really are closer than it appeared, it happens.  Bennett dropped some dimes on them and Michigan couldn't get anything going on offense, but they had some chances.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 04, 2022, 10:10:38 AM
I wonder to what extent UM just had a "bad game" against UGA and the teams really are closer than it appeared, it happens.  Bennett dropped some dimes on them and Michigan couldn't get anything going on offense, but they had some chances.
All you need to do is look at Georgia versus Alabama, just a few weeks apart, and two completely different results.  

I was at the Georgia Michigan game in person and while yes-Georgia was physically superior they also were well prepared for the unique things that Michigan was doing on defense.  

Georgia was the best team and proved it beyond any doubt so it’s hard to compare against that. But Michigan manhandled Ohio State and probably would’ve manhandled just about everybody else besides Alabama and Georgia
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 04, 2022, 10:14:15 AM
I will add, that Ryan Day was very easily outcoached when they played Michigan in terms of scheme. That does not happen to him very often.

But part of the reason for that is because he underestimated how easily Gattis could manipulate Ohio State’s defensive scheme with misdirection running plays an easy 2 on 1 blocking schemes. His hope that his offiense could overcome that with more points failed miserably.

But to his credit he has completely cleaned house on the defensive side of the ball. Remember, the last time he did that he brought in that unknown dude named Jeff Hafley in the year 2019 and Ohio State had the number one defense in the country in terms of total yards allowed. But unfortunately Hafley only stayed one year just like McDonald did at Michigan.  
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 04, 2022, 10:20:17 AM
The best example I can think of to illustrate what I’m talking about is Ohio State’s first possession of the second half versus Michigan.

They got themselves in third and two and went to the line of scrimmage with an RPO.

Michigan knew exactly what they were doing and showed a pass defense look, that was actually totally designed to stop an off tackle run which is exactly what Ohio State ran and Michigan stuffed it. Instead of driving for the go ahead score they punted away and Michigan never looked back.   

This past season Ohio State did not have the defensive scheme or coaching to pull those kinds of things off against other teams. The one exception is they actually did do a few things like that in the Rose Bowl in the second half. And it worked because they got a couple critical stops when they needed them by disguising what the Defense was doing
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 04, 2022, 10:42:10 AM
I wonder to what extent UM just had a "bad game" against UGA and the teams really are closer than it appeared, it happens.  Bennett dropped some dimes on them and Michigan couldn't get anything going on offense, but they had some chances.
The offense not playing as well doesn't surprise me. Michigan got down fast and their offense isn't built to recover - if you're down 14 or 17 in a flash - Cade McNamara isn't the type of QB that can throw you back into a game. He just isn't that guy. The offense went about as expected considering the circumstances imo. JJ McCarthy might've given them a better chance - but the problem is he was still too green. That's why Jim should've started JJ from day one and made Cade the back-up. Sooner or later Michigan was going to have to come from behind. That was seriously the first game all year where Michigan was in a hole - and they were in the hole fast. JJ can throw you back into a game imo - he's got that ability. Cade just ain't that guy.

Their defense had a bad game for sure. CB Vincent Gray just stopped running and got burned for a TD. They fell for a trick play and gave up a TD - they hadn't fallen for trick plays all year. They didn't really have an answer for the TE's. They got burnt by Cook 3-4 times for huge gains in the pass game when he was man to man with LB's. Stetson Bennett was getting the ball out quick and dropping dimes. The Michigan pass rush duo was a non-factor. That was by far the worst their defense played all year for 60 mins and the worst it played since it had a 2nd half collapse vs Michigan State.

UGA was the best team in the nation though. Without question. They proved it by spanking Michigan and then conquering their demons and getting the monkey off their backs the following week vs Bama.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 06, 2022, 11:42:53 AM
What's up with Gattis?

(https://i.imgur.com/zx7ngA1.png)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on February 06, 2022, 02:23:23 PM
Rolling the dice there
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 06, 2022, 02:29:00 PM
What's up with Gattis?

[img width=361.81 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/zx7ngA1.png[/img]
https://twitter.com/TomVH/status/1490378413613408256?t=qDBMMDXD9gXPWmrQNy5Rng&s=19
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 06, 2022, 05:22:48 PM
https://twitter.com/TomVH/status/1490378413613408256?t=qDBMMDXD9gXPWmrQNy5Rng&s=19
Gattis is still a complete unknown as far as I'm concerned. This was not his offense at Michigan, he never ran the show. Harbaugh's fingerprints were all over it and in it everywhere. All the "insiders" on the Michigan blogs and boards have said as much. 

And there is no doubt that after the 2-4 season when Harbaugh was on the hot-seat and forced to take a 50% paycut - that the AD wanted Harbaugh to wipe the entire staff and start over. Including Gattis. Gattis knows this.

The move to Miami makes sense when you think about it like this: he'll actually get to run his own show on offense and he'll be at a place where he's wanted and not having to worry about looking over his shoulder. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 06, 2022, 07:14:06 PM
Hard to know what’s really going on.

Most unemotional observers felt that the two Coordinators ( Gattis and McDonald) where are the primary drivers of Michigan’s schematic success this year, and a lot of their success was schematic.

Now they’re both gone including your Broyles award winner but Michigan fans are reacting as if it’s a great thing and the real wizard is Harbaugh.  

Could prove to be true but that’s a hard sell.  I pay attention a lot to what Michigan is running on both sides of the ball and I can tell you they ran things this year in defense they had never run before and the same is true in offense these last several seasons. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 06, 2022, 10:46:26 PM
Now they’re both gone including your Broyles award winner but Michigan fans are reacting as if it’s a great thing and the real wizard is Harbaugh. 
I don't know if anyone is claiming Harbaugh is a wizard. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on February 06, 2022, 10:51:08 PM
Well I know Weiss brings a lot of the Ravens run schemes- so he makes a good OC candidate or even if not OC- some continuity.   
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on February 07, 2022, 05:33:42 AM
Harbaugh pulled Gattis off the recruiting trail halfway through the recruiting season for some reason.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 07, 2022, 08:32:45 AM
wonder if Joe Brady would take the job. He's the Bills QB coach. Is being a pro QB coach better than a college OC at P5 helmet program? Not sure it is. The only plus side for him is he'll be with Josh Allen, and the Bills will probably be right back in the AFC hunt in 2022, which means if the Bills/Allen have lot of success he could use that as a spring board to get a better pro job.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 08, 2022, 04:55:00 AM
Harbaugh pulled Gattis off the recruiting trail halfway through the recruiting season for some reason.
lol
Now ole Jimmy Khaki Pants has no coordinators.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 08, 2022, 05:32:27 AM
lol
Now ole Jimmy Khaki Pants has no coordinators.
don't think he wears the khaki's anymore. he's switched it up. 

"insiders" are saying Michigan QB coach Matt Weis and Michigan OL coach Sherrone Moore are going to be promoted to Co-OC's. Just further cementing the fact that they are bullshit titles and Harbaugh's fingerprints are still all over the offense. The guy would seriously go to the next level as a head coach if he'd just be a full-time recruiter and CEO and go hire Joe Brady or some other guy that is a passing game wizard and let that guy run the offense, call all the plays, make all the personnel decisions and Jim just stay the f**k out.

No word yet on who the DC might be.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on February 08, 2022, 09:07:32 AM
Agree with MDot21 above.  As for DC I'm guessing Clink since it was in his contract to become co-DC and is qualified.  I just hope Clink still coaches the CBs too.  Harbaugh needs to hire a couple people that are good recruiters.  If they have any coordination duties remains to be seen.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 08, 2022, 09:12:36 AM
Agree with MDot21 above.  As for DC I'm guessing Clink since it was in his contract to become co-DC and is qualified.  I just hope Clink still coaches the CBs too.  Harbaugh needs to hire a couple people that are good recruiters.  If they have any coordination duties remains to be seen.
IF the guy had half a brain left in that CTE riddled head of his he'd go snatch Chris Partridge back. That dude was the best recruiter Michigan has ever had outside of Mattison. He's a STUD recruiter. Make him Co-DC with Clink and give him a fat pay raise to comeback.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Abba on February 08, 2022, 07:43:44 PM
Michigan hires Jesse Minter as their DC.  Apparently runs the same system as Macdonald did and was also an assistant for the Ravens previously.  His father is Rick Minter who some may remember as the UC head coach 20 years ago.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on February 09, 2022, 12:45:23 AM
How will having two new coordinators affect Michigan next season? Is that a plus, or minus?
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on February 09, 2022, 07:13:40 AM
How will having two new coordinators affect Michigan next season? Is that a plus, or minus?

I don't expect much change on offense, they'll be doing the same stuff and likely as good as last year.  On defense it'll be hard to tell given all the new bodies at every position group.  Any shake up due to the new DC and coaching staff musical chairs should be minimal but there will be a learning curve.  Hopefully they'll have it together by Oct. 1st when they visit Iowa.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 09, 2022, 08:08:29 AM
UM interviewed UW OLB coach Bobby April for the position. Glad to not lose him, but it's probably a matter of time.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on February 09, 2022, 08:10:28 AM
don't think he wears the khaki's anymore. he's switched it up.
So he's into Big Yanks or Osh Gosh?
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on February 09, 2022, 08:24:29 AM
IF the guy had half a brain left in that CTE riddled head of his he'd go snatch Chris Partridge back.
You have such an eloquent way of setting the narrative.You should write romance novels


(https://i.imgur.com/81cTYAj.png)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on February 09, 2022, 08:35:02 AM
 The guy would seriously go to the next level as a head coach if he'd just be a full-time recruiter and CEO and go hire Joe Brady or some other guy that is a passing game wizard 
You're smoking some good jazz cabbage if you think one day a hot coaching candidate is going to wake up and think."I know what I'll do I'll leave the QB I've developed and go work for a guy that runs between the tackles 80% then interferes when the OC tries mixing things up.And of course I'll also have to go recruit in this grid iron paradise" Ya that's the ticket
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 09, 2022, 05:28:09 PM
Michigan opens an NIL exchange platform 

https://mgoblue.com/news/2022/2/9/general-michigan-opens-victors-exchange-platform-to-public.aspx
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 09, 2022, 05:29:26 PM

Michigan is ranked #4 in the SP+ pre-season rankings. 

Ohio State ranked #1. 

Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on February 09, 2022, 06:06:34 PM
As long as it's SP and not SI - I'd start looking forward to 2023 if that was the case
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2022, 07:33:22 PM
The 2022 recruiting class is in the books, transfer portal activity has slowed down at least a hair, and coaches are taking brief vacations before gearing up for spring football. That must mean one thing: It's time for SP+ projections!
Here's how SP+ saw the world at the end of 2021 (https://www.espn.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/32986253/college-football-sp+-rankings-following-new-year-six-bowl-games). Now let's see what's changed since then. I base these projections on three primary factors, weighted by their predictiveness:
1. Returning production. The returning production numbers (https://www.espn.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/33237908/college-football-teams-returning-production-2022-season) are based on rosters I have updated as much as possible to account for transfers and attrition. The combination of last year's SP+ ratings and adjustments based on returning production make up more than two-thirds of the projections formula.
2. Recent recruiting. This piece informs us of the caliber of a team's potential replacements (and/or new stars) in the lineup. It is determined by the last few years of recruiting rankings in diminishing order (meaning the most recent class carries the most weight). Beginning in 2022, this category also is impacted a bit by the recruiting rankings of incoming transfers. This is a new thing, and I'm not giving it much weight right away, but it will have a slight impact. This piece makes up about one-fifth of the projections formula.
3. Recent history. Using a sliver of information from previous seasons (two to four years ago) gives us a good measure of overall program health. It stands to reason that a team that has played well for one year is less likely to duplicate that effort than a team that has been good for years on end (and vice versa), right? This is a minor piece of the puzzle, but the projections are better with it than without.


Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 09, 2022, 08:21:14 PM
As long as it's SP and not SI - I'd start looking forward to 2023 if that was the case

You mean picking Ken Simonton and Oregon State #1 didn't pan out?

(https://i.imgur.com/6VKCRnF.png)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 13, 2022, 10:44:14 PM
Longtime Michigan radio broadcaster Frank Beckmann dies at only 72.  His call montage is basically my college football youth

https://youtu.be/8ITJUOeu98w
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 14, 2022, 08:50:58 AM
Michigan is ranked #4 in the SP+ pre-season rankings.

Ohio State ranked #1.
Has anyone looked at how predictive this rating is?  I sorta sense click bait.

Of course, a ranking that just mirrors recruiting and last year's finish with a sprinkle of what was lost won't be awful.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on February 14, 2022, 10:49:45 AM
I would think the transfer portal has also thrown a bit of a wrench into whatever preseason metrics they had used for years
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 14, 2022, 10:52:04 AM
Has anyone looked at how predictive this rating is?  I sorta sense click bait.

Of course, a ranking that just mirrors recruiting and last year's finish with a sprinkle of what was lost won't be awful.
Haven’t really looked into it deep, but SP+ is far more legit than most pre-season ratings imo. 

Georgia is #2 in SP+ 2022 pre-season and Bama #3. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 15, 2022, 10:02:22 AM
I'm just idly curious as to whether it really is more predictive of the final outcome than regular polls, or the various magazines.

I don't much care really, I think rankings at this point are all click bait.  CFN used to throw in some real outliers clearly intended to foment dissension.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on February 15, 2022, 10:06:29 AM
I'm just idly curious as to whether it really is more predictive of the final outcome than regular polls, or the various magazines.

I don't much care really, I think rankings at this point are all click bait.  CFN used to throw in some real outliers clearly intended to foment dissension.
He typically compares his rankings to whether they beat Vegas or not. They usually do pretty well and Vegas seems to have adjusted their rankings to make them closer to his.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on February 17, 2022, 06:34:37 AM
Jim Harbaugh's contract has been extended to five years.  No other information is available at this point.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/02/16/jim-harbaugh-michigan-agree-reworked-five-year-contract/6819950001/ (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/02/16/jim-harbaugh-michigan-agree-reworked-five-year-contract/6819950001/)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 17, 2022, 07:01:11 AM
He typically compares his rankings to whether they beat Vegas or not. They usually do pretty well and Vegas seems to have adjusted their rankings to make them closer to his.
OK, maybe, but everyone looks at the same factors and metrics when releasing preseason polls, I don't know what is unique about SP+ other than it professes to be somehow an algorithm of some sort, I think.  Everyone basically looks at least year's outcome and adjusts for losses and recruiting.  Usually, if a thing like this is remarkably predictive, it gets snapped up widely and quickly because of betting, and publicity, and it replaces other techniques.

I recall last year Clemson was favored over UGA based on, well, previous history, recruiting, and losses.  It was a close game.  Anyway, I view preseason polls of any ilk with a grain of salt.  They are of course broadly correct but ELA does the same sort of thing here, and seems to be about as correct.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 23, 2022, 08:59:02 PM
Denard Robinson hired by Jim Harbaugh in a Director of Player Personnel role - the same role that Courtney Morgan had before he left for Washington. It's a recruiting role- and Morgan was actually very instrumental in Michigan recruiting some West coast kids.

This has potential to be huge boon for Michigan in South Florida, where Denard is from and still a local South Florida HS legend. Love the hire.

Obligatory highlight/tribute reel....man he was so god damn quick and fast. If only he had a legit throwing arm- he'd have been insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2xuk-t6iFA
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 24, 2022, 05:24:28 PM
https://mgoblue.com/news/2022/2/24/football-denard-robinson-named-assistant-director-of-player-personnel.aspx
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on March 07, 2022, 07:13:44 PM
https://twitter.com/BarstoolUofM/status/1500562256576323584?s=20&t=06KwwabvOoDz2CViTV9Kzw
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on March 07, 2022, 08:08:41 PM
https://twitter.com/BarstoolUofM/status/1500562256576323584?s=20&t=06KwwabvOoDz2CViTV9Kzw
Michigan can’t have nice things. 

This spring ball was going to be vital to him leapfrogging Cade. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on March 08, 2022, 08:45:45 AM
No surgery required.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/03/07/michigan-wolverines-quarterback-jj-mccarthy-shoulder-injury-surgery/9418193002/ (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/03/07/michigan-wolverines-quarterback-jj-mccarthy-shoulder-injury-surgery/9418193002/)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on March 30, 2022, 10:08:21 AM
Michigan's Spring game is this Saturday, April 2nd, at Noon on BTN.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on March 30, 2022, 10:19:04 AM
Michigan's 2022 football Schedule

9/3, Colorado State
9/10, Hawaii
9/17, Connecticut
9/24, Maryland
10/1, @Iowa
10/8, @Indiana
10/15, Penn State
10/22, Open
10/29, Michigan State
11/5, @Rutgers
11/12, Nebraska
11/19, Illinois
11/26, @Ohio State
12/3, Big Ten Championship Indianapolis


Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on March 30, 2022, 10:32:08 AM
Not a very good OOC schedule.

Should be undefeated without breaking a sweat going into Iowa City to open October
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on March 31, 2022, 06:50:11 AM
Colin Kaepernick named honorary team captain for the Spring game.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 04, 2022, 11:50:44 AM
Colin Kaepernick named honorary team captain for the Spring game.

Back when it was a formality for the Vikings to hire Harbaugh, I wonder if Harbaugh's interview went south if one of his ideas for taking over the Vikings was to sign Kaepernick? NFL media is fixated with Kaep getting back into an NFL jersey while the talent evaluators have long since moved on from whatever can be expected from him on field.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 04, 2022, 11:53:53 AM
I watched the first part of the UGA game last night with some UM guys doing "analysis" (which was not bad).  They thought the UGA OC completed outcoached the UM DC.  It was 14-0 very quickly of course which had to alter the UM offensive plan some.

I'm still mystified why OSU couldn't have done the same kind of thing.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on June 03, 2022, 01:50:38 PM
Fred Jackson has been re-hired as an offensive analyst.
 (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/06/02/fred-jackson-michigan-wolverines-football-offensive-analyst/7486446001/)
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/06/02/fred-jackson-michigan-wolverines-football-offensive-analyst/7486446001/ (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/06/02/fred-jackson-michigan-wolverines-football-offensive-analyst/7486446001/)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on June 03, 2022, 08:19:30 PM
I watched the first part of the UGA game last night with some UM guys doing "analysis" (which was not bad).  They thought the UGA OC completed outcoached the UM DC.  It was 14-0 very quickly of course which had to alter the UM offensive plan some.

I'm still mystified why OSU couldn't have done the same kind of thing.
Michigan's 2021 offense ain't built to comeback from a big deficit. McNamara is very limited as a QB and that passing game was pretty much meh and got most of it's big plays off play action when the run game was working.

UGA stonewalled the run game early and often- they had the tops D in the nation. OSU defense was uhm...not as good. I don't think OSU stopped Michigan once from running the ball. Seems like Michigan did whatever they wanted early and often on the ground. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on June 03, 2022, 08:20:35 PM
Fred Jackson has been re-hired as an offensive analyst.
 (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/06/02/fred-jackson-michigan-wolverines-football-offensive-analyst/7486446001/)
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/06/02/fred-jackson-michigan-wolverines-football-offensive-analyst/7486446001/ (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/06/02/fred-jackson-michigan-wolverines-football-offensive-analyst/7486446001/)
I love that hire. Hell of a RB coach and recruiter he was.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on July 17, 2022, 03:22:26 PM
https://twitter.com/DavidHarns/status/1548358208988688386?s=20&t=WbtqC84puE60x-ITeL_izA
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 17, 2022, 05:06:11 PM
Michigan's 2022 football Schedule

10/1, @Iowa

10/15, Penn State

10/29, Michigan State

11/26, @Ohio State



Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on July 17, 2022, 07:41:54 PM
Yeah, like I said, 10-2 is the floor
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on August 18, 2022, 07:27:37 AM
Apparently 2017 5-star DE Eyabi Anoma has portaled into Ann Arbor.  As a grad transfer he's immediately eligible.  Not sure what Michigan is getting.  He was kicked off of Alabama and Houston for violating team rules.

https://twitter.com/anthonytbroome/status/1560087972761849856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1560087972761849856%7Ctwgr%5E37512a93ec937742fb873ee5439319f75589e0e5%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2Fanthonytbroome2Fstatus2F1560087972761849856widget%3DTweet (https://twitter.com/anthonytbroome/status/1560087972761849856?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1560087972761849856|twgr^37512a93ec937742fb873ee5439319f75589e0e5|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2Fanthonytbroome2Fstatus2F1560087972761849856widget%3DTweet)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 18, 2022, 07:57:09 AM
Not at all a fan of that pickup.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on August 18, 2022, 08:33:29 AM
Not at all a fan of that pickup.
Yeah, it is hard for me to be unbiased but this does not sound like it describes someone you want in your locker room:
He was kicked off of Alabama and Houston for violating team rules.
Once, ok youthful indiscretion. Twice is not a good look.

Hopefully he's learned and matured.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on August 18, 2022, 08:43:50 AM
“Got thrown out of Houston” feels like an act that takes some work
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 18, 2022, 11:57:04 PM
Not at all a fan of that pickup.
Kid is obviously a freak athlete and super talented, seems to be a bit of a head case to say the least however. I see it as nothing but upside. He acts up, he gone. He's basically a one year rental on a prove it deal. He hits- you've got an NFL talented pass rusher. He doesn't? Bye bye. Hopefully his former HS coach Biff Poggi being around can keep him in line. Biff Poggi has coached a lot of studs in his HS coaching career and flat out said Eyabi Anoma was the most talented player he's ever coached. 

Michigan really doesn't have that many question marks on it's entire roster aside from edge rusher- which is a HUGE question mark after losing two high level NFL types in Hutchinson and Ojabo. Best case scenario: Braiden McGregor finally breaks out and Anoma keeps his head on his shoulders and Michigan has a lethal edge rush duo again. Worst case scenario: Anoma screws up, gets kicked out of yet another school and that's that. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 19, 2022, 12:02:33 AM
talking about Michigan....I'm actually really excited about where their WR corps is at right now. Have heard nothing but great things about Ronnie Bell and Andrel Anthony. They both have been putting on a show all fall camp is the word. It really sounds like Michigan is going to have a LEGIT WR duo in 2022 with those two and they also have plenty of experienced depth behind that 1-2 punch in Cornelius Johnson, Roman Wilson, and AJ Henning, a really solid TE in Erik All and a true x-factor RB in the passing game in Donovan Edwards. McCarthy almost has to be the starter to utilize that crew.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on August 19, 2022, 06:59:04 AM
JJ missed the Spring so I think he's understandably a little behind McNamara.  As we saw last year JJ is extremely talented but green.  Maybe by mid-season JJ will take over as the #1.

Insiders are saying Eyabi Anoma is more of a project for next year.  But there's a chance he may see the field later in the year as a pass rush specialist.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 19, 2022, 09:21:17 AM
JJ missed the Spring so I think he's understandably a little behind McNamara.  As we saw last year JJ is extremely talented but green.  Maybe by mid-season JJ will take over as the #1.

Insiders are saying Eyabi Anoma is more of a project for next year.  But there's a chance he may see the field later in the year as a pass rush specialist.
I'm a BIG believer in TALENT. TALENT wins. And JJ is SUBSTANTIALLY more talented than McNamara. Same for Anoma when it comes to all of the pass rushers on Michigan's roster. You put that talent out on the field and cut it loose, let it grow, let it sink or swim. Last thing you want to do is hold it back. Taylor Upshaw and Mike Morris are NOT NFL talent types. Nice college role players and good depth guys, but that's about it. You're not in a good spot on defense if these are the guys you need to rely on. Jaylen Harrell is a terrific athlete for an edge but he's way too small to be an every down edge player. Nice situational pass rusher, but that's basically it. From a talent/physical ability standpoint, aside from Anoma, Braiden McGregor is the only DUDE they have at the edge spot, and guy has been set back with a couple of serious injuries and he's yet to come close to living up to that 5* hype. In his defense he was also playing behind a couple of 1st rd draft pick edge players last year as a RS Frosh in Ojabo & Hutch. Not going to see the field or flash much in that situation. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 19, 2022, 05:55:25 PM
talking about Michigan....I'm actually really excited about where their WR corps is at right now. Have heard nothing but great things about Ronnie Bell and Andrel Anthony. They both have been putting on a show all fall camp is the word. It really sounds like Michigan is going to have a LEGIT WR duo in 2022 with those two and they also have plenty of experienced depth behind that 1-2 punch in Cornelius Johnson, Roman Wilson, and AJ Henning, a really solid TE in Erik All and a true x-factor RB in the passing game in Donovan Edwards. McCarthy almost has to be the starter to utilize that crew.
Damn shame that Tarik Black,Nico Collins & DPJ couldn't have jelled together,lot of raw talent there.Of course I'm not that upset about it.Glad DPJ is in C-Town,poor bastard gets stuck with an injures baker last season then god knows who this year
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 19, 2022, 08:17:07 PM
Damn shame that Tarik Black,Nico Collins & DPJ couldn't have jelled together,lot of raw talent there.Of course I'm not that upset about it.Glad DPJ is in C-Town,poor bastard gets stuck with an injures baker last season then god knows who this year
Nico had a pretty solid career all things considered. Tarik just kept getting hurt, went to Texas and didn't do much out there either. DPJ was the big head scratcher, thought for sure he was going to be the next Braylon. Never quite put it together, he was a top tier athlete but didn't have the nuances of the position down. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on August 26, 2022, 06:56:02 AM
Today:  1000 Days since Ohio State last beat Michigan.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 26, 2022, 08:16:46 AM
Just to be clear they have a 1 game winning streak.Michigan chickened out the year before,or covid saved them some face as tOSU was on the way to the CFP 
:67:
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2022, 11:18:47 AM
just to be clear - 1000 days is a long time
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 26, 2022, 11:23:13 AM
just to be clear - 1000 days is a long time
Much longer than that since Bud made some good suds
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2022, 11:28:54 AM
1000 years?

Drinking Guinness this Saturday

luck O the Irish and all

5.0 alcohol like Bud and less calories
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 26, 2022, 05:03:41 PM
Local sport Pub had a deluge of the Guiness on Draught over St Pat's Day week evidently the younger crowds aren't that big on it  :017:.All the better for us Myself and two other buds drank draft for 3-4 weeks well into march madness & after at 3 Bucks a 12 oz frosted mug. Told them make sure they order the equivalent amount next year,we'd make sure it wouldn't got bad,ya know for a price
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 26, 2022, 05:07:40 PM
Why doesn't Bud make a decent beer?  I'm sure they can, and they could charge $16 for a 12 pack easily.  I suspect they make so much off mass it makes no sense.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2022, 05:36:24 PM
Local sport Pub had a deluge of the Guiness on Draught over St Pat's Day week evidently the younger crowds aren't that big on it  :017:.All the better for us Myself and two other buds drank draft for 3-4 weeks well into march madness & after at 3 Bucks a 12 oz frosted mug. Told them make sure they order the equivalent amount next year,we'd make sure it wouldn't got bad,ya know for a price
Dude, it's spelled Gunniess.  It's to be served in a 16 oz pint glass, NOT frosted!

but, for $3 a pour I'd put up it it as well.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 26, 2022, 06:32:30 PM
FF - the season is almost here and you're out of sorts.See what sucking that saki does to you


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(https://i.imgur.com/mVd7lzz.png)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2022, 06:46:58 PM
is that Joe Willie?

I rarely drink from a straw

usually only from a hospital bed when I can't raise my head and glass in unison 

even Budweiser isn't supposed to be served in a frosted glass, the frost has impurities

it's OK for Coors banquet at my local establishment

(https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/siouxcityjournal.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/13/f13f89c7-cca9-5c6e-b74a-6b4c349cfd2d/4cf6d1a736fe8.image.jpg)

as you know, the Hawkeyes are of the unwashed masses
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 26, 2022, 06:57:46 PM
I suppose you can have these with your Guinness,grilled not frosted

(https://i.imgur.com/Y9WAtzf.png)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2022, 07:34:22 PM
looks like a helluva pairing with Bud Fat

uncured, better eaten while they're FReSH!
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2022, 07:41:27 PM
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I'ma try to find some of those Fearless Franks
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 26, 2022, 08:26:51 PM
Just watched Jeopardy and they had a question about GUINNESS in the Beer catagory - .I've been reading a book about DB Cooper - SkyJack by Geoffrey Gray. Now on the LAFF Channel they are showing "WITHOUT A PADDLE" about -  After their friend dies, three men decide to fulfill their childhood dream by going on a camping expedition for the lost D. B. Cooper bounty, 

Weird
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on August 28, 2022, 08:59:04 PM
https://twitter.com/BetMGM/status/1563652829654433793?t=9H6qIfTOY8xx-8DJIbZwRQ&s=19
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on August 29, 2022, 07:16:08 AM
Coach Harbaugh says they're not ready to pick a starting QB with the contest being so close.  As a result, Cade McNamara will start the first game against Colorado State and JJ McCarthy will start the following week against Hawaii.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/08/27/were-not-ready-harbaugh-make-decision-michigan-starting-qb-week-3/7919357001/ (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/2022/08/27/were-not-ready-harbaugh-make-decision-michigan-starting-qb-week-3/7919357001/)
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 29, 2022, 12:24:27 PM
don’t like it. just give JJ the reins and let him grow.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 29, 2022, 01:25:27 PM
yup, quit beating around the bush

let Cade jump in the portal
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 29, 2022, 01:52:20 PM
Cade can come to Madison.

Right now.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
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Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
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Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
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Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 29, 2022, 05:22:16 PM
Cade can come to Madison.

Right now.
Ew. No. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: SuperMario on August 29, 2022, 09:02:36 PM
Cade can come to Madison.

Right now.
He seems like a perfect Badger Qb. Smart, efficient, yet not overly flashy, but gets the job done.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on August 29, 2022, 09:10:55 PM
Yeah, this one is tough.  You have a kid with a low ceiling, who just won you your first Big Ten title in two decades, and a much higher ceiling kid behind him.  In the transfer portal era.  Granted you need a first two games set up like this to get away with it, but I think what Harbaugh is doing makes WAY more sense than having them each take some series during each game.

Hell Lloyd Carr struggled with this 25 years ago, when there was no portal, and the upperclassman "program guy" he was trying to work in was Tom f'ing Brady
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 29, 2022, 09:25:02 PM
beefed it
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 30, 2022, 07:22:35 AM
He seems like a perfect Badger Qb. Smart, efficient, yet not overly flashy, but gets the job done.
That's what I like.

Although I'd settle for another Russell Wilson.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on August 30, 2022, 08:19:19 AM
Yeah, this one is tough.  You have a kid with a low ceiling, who just won you your first Big Ten title in two decades, and a much higher ceiling kid behind him.  In the transfer portal era.  Granted you need a first two games set up like this to get away with it, but I think what Harbaugh is doing makes WAY more sense than having them each take some series during each game.

Hell Lloyd Carr struggled with this 25 years ago, when there was no portal, and the upperclassman "program guy" he was trying to work in was Tom f'ing Brady
This seems like a way to make a change while softening the blow to Cade.

I’d say it might be a defense against a transfer, but the kid wouldn’t gain much in terms of PT and has two years left.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: SuperMario on August 30, 2022, 05:30:35 PM
That's what I like.

Although I'd settle for another Russell Wilson.
Ironically that’s who I thought of, although Russell was far more athletic.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 30, 2022, 05:46:35 PM
Ironically that’s who I thought of, although Russell was far more athletic.
um...not only far more athletic but also possessed a WAY bigger arm. Russell Wilson been throwing deep bomb dimes since day one. That ain't in Cade's wheelhouse.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 30, 2022, 05:53:24 PM
Michigan's interior OL should be the best it's been in like a long time. Not sure how it's possible but they actually got an upgrade at Center with the All-American transfer from Virginia. Their guards are rock solid and experienced with Trevor Keegan and Zak Zinter. Tackles should be pretty solid with upperclassmen Ryan Hayes at LT and Trente Jones at RT. Should be a really good OL.

Getting Ronnie Bell back at WR is huge. He was poised for a breakout year last year and was looking phenomenal that first game until the injury. Erik All is a sneaky good TE. Think he's the best they've had since Jake Butt. Their RB duo of Blake Corum and Donovan Edwards has big-time big play-making ability. I think they'll miss Haskins tough in between the tackle running, but Edwards has much more game-breaking home run speed and to me he looks freaky talented as a pass catcher and route runner and allows them to do so much more in the passing game with the RB's.



The only ? mark I have on the offense is who is the QB and will Harbaugh hamstring what should be an explosive offense with really solid weapons everywhere.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: SuperMario on August 30, 2022, 06:56:21 PM
Good write up MDoT. Somehow I always forget about Erik All, which is crazy because he’s very talented. Hopefully Bell is fully healthy and his ceiling is still high. That was a huge loss last year.

I don’t think replacing Haskins is possible. He was arguably the toughest RB at Michigan in 20 years. That being said, maybe the drop off isn’t bad because of how talented the O-line is. I like Corum, but he’s certainly not the physical grinder that’s needed in the Big Ten, especially not in the later, colder months. Let’s see what we get with Edwards. 

The bigger concern for me is the defensive side of the ball. It’s tough to believe M does anything but step back there.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 30, 2022, 06:59:55 PM
Harbaugh says former 5* DE/OLB transfer Eyabi Anoma will play in game one. Which is kinda crazy cause he just got there 2 weeks ago. Kid was the #3 player overall and #1 DE prospect in the entire nation in his class back when he signed with BAMA. Never been a talent issue with him, kid has 1st round NFL talent. It's always been the mental/off-field- hence him getting kicked out of two schools. If he's past all that shit- Michigan might've gotten a hidden gem they desperately need. Michigan lost quite a bit with that pass rush duo. They need every ounce of help they can get.

Despite losing Dax Hill, think their secondary is still going to be pretty good, maybe even better. Have heard nothing but great things about the rookies CB Will Johnson, Nickel Zeke Berry, and Safety Keon Sabb. All 3 of those guys will play a lot. Would put good money on Will Johnson winning the CB job opposite DJ Turner by mid-season and Zeke Berry taking over at nickel. It's early, but all 3 of those guys look like legit bonafide players.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 30, 2022, 07:05:51 PM
Good write up MDoT. Somehow I always forget about Erik All, which is crazy because he’s very talented. Hopefully Bell is fully healthy and his ceiling is still high. That was a huge loss last year.

I don’t think replacing Haskins is possible. He was arguably the toughest RB at Michigan in 20 years. That being said, maybe the drop off isn’t bad because of how talented the O-line is. I like Corum, but he’s certainly not the physical grinder that’s needed in the Big Ten, especially not in the later, colder months. Let’s see what we get with Edwards.

The bigger concern for me is the defensive side of the ball. It’s tough to believe M does anything but step back there.
Yeah, I loved Haskins. Haskins was almost the perfect back. Such a tough runner. If he had the breakaway speed he'd have been a way higher draft pick. Kid had great size and strength, really good vision, great balance and feet- he's just pretty slow for a back. If he had the kind of speed Corum or Edwards have- he's probably a 1st or 2nd rd pick. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 30, 2022, 09:41:17 PM
Kind of get frustrated when people act like they won the B1G and made the playoff because of Cade. My guy was just along for the ride riding the back of an award winning OL, really good 1-2 RB punch, and a gnarly front 7 on defense which featured two 1st round NFL Draft pick edge rushers. Yeah, yeah Ojabo went 2nd round but we all know he's a top 20 pick bare minimum if he doesn't tear his achilles a few weeks before the draft. 

Cade stat line vs OSU/Iowa/Georgia: 

434 Yds, 1 TD vs 4 Int....COMBINED. That's an average of 144.6 Yards per game and .33 TD's and 1.33 INT's a game. Sure, Georgia had a whale of a defense but Ohio State and Iowa? Not so much.

Michigan passing game and QB has lot of improvement it can make. And with your #1 WR coming back healthy and Erik All having a true breakout season in 2021- plus some nice #2 guys at the position with guys like Cornelius Johnson and Roman Wilson plus all the young guys like Anthony and Edwards on the verge- there are some real weapons here to have a serious offense- PROVIDED the QB can get it done. I just don't believe Cade can get it done. Not a knock on him, think he's BY FAR the best QB that Michigan has had under Harbaugh- but that's still not good enough imo. Need someone who can make the other guys better and take it to the next level. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on August 30, 2022, 09:47:52 PM
Harbaugh says former 5* DE/OLB transfer Eyabi Anoma will play in game one. Which is kinda crazy cause he just got there 2 weeks ago. 
On the one hand, that feels like a wait-and-see-if-he-plays kinda thing. Like, coaches lie all over. 

And if he does, well, not much upside in holding him back. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 30, 2022, 09:54:48 PM
13 mins of JJ McCarthy....kid just has every tool in the belt. Live arm? Check. Effortless, quick release? Check. Athletic? Check. Fast? Check. Can throw accurately on the run and off platform? Check. Good deep ball? Check. Dude is by far the most talented QB I have seen at Michigan since Drew Henson. He's not as massive as Henson and his arm probably isn't quite as strong- but he's big enough and his arm is strong enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVouqoyZEpA
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 30, 2022, 10:03:48 PM
that's pretty solid coverage....better throw by JJ. Perfect throw beats coverage every time though. This kids arm talent in special. He needs to start. You don't keep that kind of ability on the bench.

https://twitter.com/UMichFootball/status/1555924700492095489?s=20&t=ocBKLV_tnTM-ezUjUgiD8Q
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 30, 2022, 10:05:37 PM
unless he's turnover prone
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Temp430 on August 31, 2022, 07:23:16 AM
Hard to compare Cade McNamara and JJ McCarthy stat-wise since JJ was not on the field as much and when he was it was to potentially run the ball.  JJ presents a bigger problem for the defense given his dual-threat nature but McNamara has run the ball successfully when need be.  I guess I was hoping JJ would eventually over take Cade.  Maybe that will happen in September.  JJ's development was hampered by his injury during Spring.


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Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 31, 2022, 07:39:22 AM
um...not only far more athletic but also possessed a WAY bigger arm. Russell Wilson been throwing deep bomb dimes since day one. That ain't in Cade's wheelhouse.
Oh yeah. RW is probably in the team photo of the best QB's in the Big Ten all time. Wish he was there for 4 instead of one.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: SuperMario on August 31, 2022, 10:36:20 AM
13 mins of JJ McCarthy....kid just has every tool in the belt. Live arm? Check. Effortless, quick release? Check. Athletic? Check. Fast? Check. Can throw accurately on the run and off platform? Check. Good deep ball? Check. Dude is by far the most talented QB I have seen at Michigan since Drew Henson. He's not as massive as Henson and his arm probably isn't quite as strong- but he's big enough and his arm is strong enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVouqoyZEpA
But none of that matters if decision making isn’t as good as all those qualities. There’s been plenty of QBs with incredible tools, but there still needs to be someone intelligent using them. Hopefully the football IQ is there and he’s a star.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on August 31, 2022, 11:16:55 AM
So true SM.  

I felt like McNamara was extremely solid in that area.  

Either way- just looking at UM on paper - they should be strong enough to beat or compete evenly with ANYONE on that schedule.   
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 31, 2022, 11:46:36 AM
It's interesting when a team has a solid QB and a highly talented but slightly erratic QB and who they play.  I recall something akin to this last season.  (JT Daniels wasn't especially erratic, and he has tools, he'll do well at WVU.)

It's a bit different of course in that Stetson Bennett had better wheels and that was a clear factor, but Daniels is by most metrics the better QB.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 31, 2022, 12:41:08 PM
But none of that matters if decision making isn’t as good as all those qualities. There’s been plenty of QBs with incredible tools, but there still needs to be someone intelligent using them. Hopefully the football IQ is there and he’s a star.
we just don't know yet with JJ, he wasn't given enough reps in live game action and taken enough bullets. He only attempted 59 passes and rushed the ball 27 times in 14 games last year. That's basically 6 touches a game. What you want to see is the flashes in that short period of time. And BOY did he flash, nearly every damn time he was touching the ball he did something great. That's REALY hard to do...especially for a true frosh and especially at that position on such limited reps. That's a position that takes repetition and easy throws to get into a rhythm to really be effective. Freaking kid would come off the bench cold and drop dimes make it look easy. It ain't easy. He's just an extremely naturally gifted thrower of the football. Very few QB's are. Cade for example is not. Most have to really work it. He makes it look easy. 

People tried to blame the lost fumble vs MSU on him. Wasn't his fault. Harbaugh, Corum, and Gattis ALL said it was Corum's fault. JJ did fumble the ball once in that game which actually was his fault- but the ball went out of bounds- luckily.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 31, 2022, 12:50:55 PM
So true SM. 

I felt like McNamara was extremely solid in that area. 

Either way- just looking at UM on paper - they should be strong enough to beat or compete evenly with ANYONE on that schedule. 
yeah, their non-con schedule is tissue paper soft and their schedule is basically 4 games...

@Iowa - which likely will be a noon game and if it is- HUGE break for them
Penn State at home - my guess is this will be a night game- and if so- HUGE break for them
Michigan State at home
@ Ohio State

Go 2-2 in those games, they're probably 10-2.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 31, 2022, 01:16:38 PM
their offense does return quite a bit.

WR:
Ronnie Bell - 5th year SR, will be their go to #1 WR and *should* hit 1,000 yards. He's sneaky good, way better than people even realize and by all accounts he's back to 100%.
Cornelius Johnson - going into his SR year, lead team in receiving last year with 627 yards. Pretty damn rock solid, experienced #2 guy.
Roman Wilson - going into his JR year, maybe fastest guy on their team, had 420 yards. Vertical deep threat and rock solid #3 guy.
Andrel Anthony - going into his Soph. year, didn't play much as a true frosh but whenever he did- all he did was flash- averaged 21 yards per catch and had 248 yards as a true frosh- probably the best route runner on their team- just super smooth- has sticky hands- he's one that is going to be a future star at Michigan- I firmly believe that. It was such a blessing to snatch him away from MSU.
AJ Henning - going into his JR year, pretty much just a slot, reverse, gadget play guy. Don't think he'll get many touches- but could be a dude to send in motion and get the defense going the wrong way- he's been lethal on reverses and on returns- very explosive athlete with great top end speed.

Then you have 3 freshmen who have all turned heads this fall; Darius Clemons, Tyler Morris, and Amorion Walker. Don't really expect much from them this year, you have 5 WR's way ahead of them and the TE will also need to get targets.

TE:
Erick All - had a breakout year, developed into a dominant blocker, grew leaps and bounds as a pass catcher and caught 38 passes for 437 yards and 2 TD's. His pass catching #'s *should* only improve.

RB:
Blake Corum - ran for just 48 yards shy of 1,000 yards despite missing 3 games and splitting time with Haskins, averaged nearly 6.7 YPC and scored 11 TD's. Should easily crack 1,000 this year while splitting time with Edwards. Game-breaking speed, play-maker.
Donovan Edwards - didn't get many carries as the 3rd RB option behind Haskins/Corum duo - but flashed with the carries he did get- not to mention he was just ridiculous as a 3rd down pass catching RB. Probably the best pass catching RB I have ever seen at Michigan- don't think it's hyperbole to say he has the type of skills to be a 1,000 and 1,000 back. Wouldn't surprise me to see him take over the starting back role and Corum be the #2 guy- call it a hunch but I think this dude is about to be a monster.

Not to mention, they're going to have a really good OL again. They legitimately have the pieces in terms of talent, experience, and depth to be a monster offense. All they need is the right guy calling the plays and for McCarthy to be the guy.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 31, 2022, 04:42:26 PM
Oh yeah. RW is probably in the team photo of the best QB's in the Big Ten all time. Wish he was there for 4 instead of one.
Think he could take 4 yrs of  b 2 b last snap lossess - brutal :cheer:
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 31, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Obviously, I don't think for UM awin in Cbus as being likely, but they will be favored elsewhere I think.

And I didn't expect the win last year in AA, so it's possible.  Yes, I'm saying it's possible.



Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 31, 2022, 08:44:18 PM
Obviously, I don't think for UM awin in Cbus as being likely, but they will be favored elsewhere I think.

And I didn't expect the win last year in AA, so it's possible.  Yes, I'm saying it's possible.
Ohio State absolutely should be favored and will very much more than likely win that game.

Michigan should have a shot though, with JJ methinks. With Cade? Doubtful. Need to score points to keep up with that juggernaut in Cbus.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on August 31, 2022, 08:55:10 PM
Ohio State absolutely should be favored and will very much more than likely win that game.

Michigan should have a shot though, with JJ methinks. With Cade? Doubtful. Need to score points to keep up with that juggernaut in Cbus.
Says who lol.  All the talking heads last season?Michigan kicked their ass and took their lunch money.  

I need to see some evidence that something has changed.     
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 31, 2022, 09:10:58 PM
Says who lol.  All the talking heads last season?Michigan kicked their ass and took their lunch money. 

I need to see some evidence that something has changed.   
well for starters the game is at home. that really helps. playing on the road in the B1G is tough. you don't just come into Columbus and win. 

second, I highly doubt Ohio State's defense will be anywhere near as bad as it was last year. and while Michigan should still have a really good OL and run game in 2022, they lost Haskins- the type of back who just hammers it between the tackles and punishes a defense. Ohio State defense didn't want any more of Haskins by the 4th QTR. Corum and Edwards are really good- but they aren't that style of RB. last, Michigan lost it's edge rushers who dominated the OSU OL. They aren't getting 15 pressures from one guy this game- I can promise you that.
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 31, 2022, 09:14:59 PM
Buckeyes won't be overconfident this season
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: SuperMario on August 31, 2022, 09:46:58 PM
You guys are talking about OSU v UM already? There’s far too much that can happen from now until then. 
Title: Re: 2022 Michigan Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 01, 2022, 04:51:05 PM
You guys are talking about OSU v UM already? There’s far too much that can happen from now until then.
great point lol