2022-2023 B1G Basketball Thread

[ELA]

Official section 9.3 of the NCAA rulebook:

Section 3. Player Out of Bounds

Art. 1.  A player who steps out of bounds under the player's own volition and then becomes the first player to touch the ball after returning to the playing court has committed a violation.

a. A violation has not been committed when a player, who steps out of bounds as permitted by Rule 7-4.6.b, does not receive the pass along the end line from a teammate and is the first to touch the ball after returning to the playing court.

b. A player whose momentum causes that player to go out of bounds may be the first to touch the ball inbounds if that player reestablishes one foot inbounds prior to touching the ball.

Yes, the first player to touch the ball, is the player with the ball.  As long as he was reestablished, he was fine

[medinabuckeye1]

Tentatively going with these tiers:

• Purdue, Illinois, Indiana
• Iowa, tOSU, Rutgers, Maryland, MSU
• Wisconsin, Michigan, PSU
• Nebraska, Northwestern
• blank
• Minnesota

For review/reminder:
Teams are expected to win all home games except those against teams two or more tiers ahead of them and lose all road games except those against team two or more tiers behind them.  So to take the tier three teams (UW, M, PSU) as an example in a double-round-robin they would be expected to:

• Lost twice each to PU, IL, and IU
• Win home and lose road games against IA, tOSU, RU, UMD, MSU
• Win home and lose road games against each other
• Win home and lose road games against UNL and NU
• n/a
• Win twice against MN

The upsets so far are:

The projected final standings/B1G Tournament seeds are:

• 16-4 Purdue
• 15-5 Illinois
• 14-6 Indiana
• 13-7 Iowa
• 12-8 Rutgers (wins tie with tOSU and UMD based on H2H2H, no game in College Park)
• 12-8 Ohio State (second in tie with RU and UMD based on H2H2H, 2-2)
• 12-8 Maryland (loses tie with RU and tOSU based on H2H2H, does not host RU)
• 11-9 Michigan State
• 9-11 Wisconsin (wins tie with M based on record against Iowa)
• 9-11 Michigan
• 7-13 Penn State
• 5-15 Nebraska (wins tie with NU based on H2H, no game in Evanston)
• 5-15 Northwestern
• 0-20 Minnesota

Thus, the matchups for the 2023 B1G Tournament in Chicago, Illinois would be:
Wednesday, March 8, 2023:

• #11 Penn State vs #14 Minnesota, 830pm, BTN
• #12 Nebraska vs #13 Northwestern, 6pm, BTN

Thursday, March 9, 2023:

• #5 Rutgers vs UNL/NU, 230pm, BTN
• #6 Ohio State vs PSU/MN, 9pm, BTN
• #7 Maryland vs #10 Michigan, 630pm, BTN
• #8 Michigan State vs #9 Wisconsin, noon, BTN

Friday, March 10, 2023:

• #1 Purdue vs MSU/UW, noon, BTN
• #2 Illinois vs UMD/M, 630pm, BTN
• #3 Indiana vs tOSU/PSU/MN, 9pm, BTN
• #4 Iowa vs RU/UNL/NU, 230pm, BTN

Saturday, March 11, 2023:

• PU/MSU/UW vs IA/RU/UNL/NU, 1pm, CBS
• IL/UMD/M vs IU/tOSU/PSU/MN, 330pm, CBS

Sunday, March 12, 2023:

• PU/MSU/UW/IA/RU/UNL/NU vs IL/UMD/M/IU/tOSU/PSU/MN, 330pm, CBS

[ELA]

If the tournament actually meant anything, it would be really fun this year.  Conference goes 13 deep (only Minnesota sucks), and the only teams who have proven anything are Purdue and Illinois

[medinabuckeye1]

If the tournament actually meant anything, it would be really fun this year.  Conference goes 13 deep (only Minnesota sucks), and the only teams who have proven anything are Purdue and Illinois

I've been to one in Chicago and one in NYC and I highly recommend it. It really is a lot of fun. Also Chicago has a lot of other things to see and their St. Patrick's Day Parade and dyeing the river Green are on March 11 so if you go for the tournament you can see that too.

[ELA]

Yeah, it's fun, but ultimately the only games that "matter" are some Thursday games for the bubble teams, because we have a format the rewards Power conference mediocrity.  The actual conference tourney title contenders are generally already locks

[medinabuckeye1]

Yeah, it's fun, but ultimately the only games that "matter" are some Thursday games for the bubble teams, because we have a format the rewards Power conference mediocrity.  The actual conference tourney title contenders are generally already locks

With the exception of Illinois when they made the CG as the lowest seed (I think #11 back when we were the Big11Ten) and maybe one or two others this is true as far as making the tournament goes. Seeding can be helped or hurt though so teams have something to play for.

Example, if this year goes as projected the Buckeyes would hit the B1G Tournament as roughly a #6/7 NCAA. Their tournament path would be PSU/MN then IU, then IL/UMD/M then CG. As a fan I would see it as:

• Thursday vs PSU/MN: Need to avoid a bad loss to stay off the 8/9 line.
• Friday vs Indiana: Basically playing with house money because a loss doesn't really hurt and a win improves seed to probably a #6.
• Saturday vs IL/UMD/M: Last actual chance to improve seed.
• Sunday CG: Probably irrelevant.

As a fan, my interest in the B1G Tournament goes from highest to lowest:

• My team is on the bubble
• My team is in position to possibly get a #1 seed
• My team is safely in the tournament, playing for seed
• My team needs to win to dance.

[medinabuckeye1]

Based on our tiers, the standings after the final weekend in January (roughly the halfway point of the conference season) project to be:

• 9-1 Illinois
• 9-2 Purdue
• 7-3 Indiana
• 7-4 Iowa
• 6-4 Ohio State
• 6-4 Rutgers
• 6-5 Michigan State
• 5-5 Maryland
• 5-5 Michigan
• 4-6 Wisconsin
• 3-7 Northwestern
• 3-7 Penn State
• 2-9 Nebraska
• 0-10 Minnesota

So we can look back after the Sunday, January 29 games and see how close we were. 

[medinabuckeye1]

Projection heading into the last two games for each team (so after the Sunday, February 26 games)

• 14-4 Purdue, at UW, vs IL
• 14-4 Illinois, vs M, at PU
• 12-6 Iowa, at IU, vs UNL
• 12-6 Indiana, vs IA, vs M
• 12-6 Maryland, at tOSU, at PSU
• 11-7 Ohio State, vs UMD, at MSU
• 10-8 Rutgers, at MN, vs NU
• 9-9 Michigan State, at UNL, vs tOSU
• 9-9 Michigan, at IL, at IU
• 8-10 Wisconsin, vs PU, at MN
• 6-12 Penn State, at NU, vs UMD
• 5-13 Nebraska, vs MSU, at IA
• 4-14 Northwestern, vs PSU, at RU
• 0-18 Minnesota, vs RU, vs UW

Then, heading into the final weekend:

• 15-4 Purdue, vs IL
• 15-4 Illinois, at PU
• 13-6 Indiana, vs M
• 12-7 Iowa, vs UNL
• 12-7 Ohio State, at MSU
• 12-7 Maryland at PSU
• 11-8 Rutgers vs NU
• 10-9 Michigan State vs tOSU
• 9-10 Michigan at IU
• 8-11 Wisconsin at MN
• 6-13 Penn State vs UMD
• 5-14 Nebraska at IA
• 5-14 Northwestern at RU
• 0-19 Minnesota vs UW

[ELA]

Penn State absolutely blasted Illinois in Champaign.  Didn't see that coming

Who had 0-8 Louisville playing 1-9 Florida State?

And FSU is killing them.  Louisville might be as bad as any P5 team in recent memory

[medinabuckeye1]

Penn State absolutely blasted Illinois in Champaign.  Didn't see that coming

Who had 0-8 Louisville playing 1-9 Florida State?

And FSU is killing them.  Louisville might be as bad as any P5 team in recent memory

Crazy day.
In addition to Penn State blasting Illinois, Nebraska has Purdue in OT.

[FearlessF]

Damned unlucky Huskers

couldn't buy a basket at the 2 minute mark

had 8 or 9 looks, nuttin honey

[bayareabadger]

Wisconsin blew an 8-point lead in the last minute of regulation, came back from going down to win in OT at Iowa. Lost some focus late. 

Gritty and dumb win. 

[ELA]

Northwestern continued their annual tradition of playing their best game of the season against MSU, but at least ground out a win against Prairie View.

I think Minnesota hired the right coach, seems like a bright guy, but the talent level should still be this low in Year 2.  The gap between #13 and the Gophers is HUGE

[grillrat]

Chris Beard arrested on assault charge.  Doesn't look good.