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CatsbyAZ

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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #98 on: May 02, 2021, 09:41:54 PM »
Quote from: ELA on May 01, 2021, 05:40:44 PM
MSU was going into the 7th round with nobody picked. UM has now had a full back and a long snapper drafted.  I don't think anyone's fully realized just how barren Dantonio left the roster


IMO, MSU will remain in a sort’ve post-Dantonio rebuild for at least another season. If I gotta pick one point where the cracks were evident it was the slow fallout of the 2016 recruiting class. The roster has been walking-wounded ever since.
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #99 on: May 02, 2021, 10:12:12 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on May 02, 2021, 06:33:10 PM
The Tucker experiment fascinates me. It’s an arc type that’s hard to pull off. Perhaps he will be more PJ than Brewster.
I've been wary all along.  Dantonio post 2016 lost his way with recruiting.  But you are never going to win at MSU by winning recruiting wars.  UM, OSU, PSU, ND, they are always going to out recruit you.  In basketball, sure.  You win a bottle a year, and bring in an impact transfer, that works.  In football, if MSU pulls in 2 kids in state that UM wants, and one kid from Ohio that OSU wants, that's a good year...and like 15% of a class.  It certainly is being able to get those 2-3 headliners, but it's much more about your hit rate on identifying which kids UM and OSU didn't want, had slipped through the cracks.

Dantonio early on did that.  And really did such a good job that he got too much leash later on, when what he was really doing was just plucking MAC kids, while the fan base assumed he was mining diamonds.  MSU had maybe 15 kids hit the portal, and I believe only one landed at aP5 school.  A DB that went to WSU.
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #100 on: May 03, 2021, 07:00:51 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on May 02, 2021, 07:36:25 PM
Lance Leipold was my vote for Sparty - he's headed to Kansas. Should be interesting to see how he does in that hole.
Honestly, I'm glad he's not in the B1G.
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #101 on: May 03, 2021, 02:21:44 PM »
May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'WHICH STATE PRODUCED THE MOST NFL DRAFT PICKS IN 2021 lanes ARCHBISHOP CHASE JA'MARR B RUMMEL ADDERS CANES TREVOR LAWRENCE CARTERSVILLEHS, GA 1 3 19 7 8 3 NJ4 1 3 5 10 1 LA 13 4 6 33 FAGAN PARKER NATERS 2 INTERNATIONAL 37 MAXPREPS'

Huskers have an up hill battle

they had 2 picks - one from Texas, one from South Dakota
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #102 on: May 03, 2021, 03:34:16 PM »
Whoever decided that color coding should find a different job
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #103 on: May 03, 2021, 03:54:46 PM »
Wow, we should keep track of this more than the census numbers.  GA passed CA?  Ouch. 


People literally just don't play football where there are mountains, apparently.  Even WV, lol.
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #104 on: May 03, 2021, 03:56:45 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 03:54:46 PM

People literally just don't play football where there are mountains, apparently.  Even WV, lol.
i think you just figured out the problems on rockytop.
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #105 on: May 03, 2021, 04:00:35 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 03:54:46 PM
Wow, we should keep track of this more than the census numbers.  GA passed CA?  Ouch.


People literally just don't play football where there are mountains, apparently.  Even WV, lol.

Its amazing how many people are here in California yet the social standing of high school football has just hit the floor. 
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #106 on: May 03, 2021, 09:04:54 PM »
the state of Arizona didn't product well this year
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #107 on: May 04, 2021, 09:00:40 AM »
California is a dying shithole- even when it comes to producing NFL talent. Wow. 

FL by far #1 at NFL talent, TX close 2nd, and Georgia is lapping dying shithole California. Wow.
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #108 on: May 04, 2021, 09:09:04 AM »
ok talking the actual draft- I think Chicago got a hell of a lot better now that they have a legit blue-chip QB prospect to build with. Fields was the 2nd best QB in this draft by a mile- and is a supremely talented athlete who is a QB first- athlete second. Basically opposite of a Lamar Jackson. Fields looks to throw first, run only as a last resort- and oh yeah by the way when he runs- he runs 4.4. Blows my mind he fell as far as he did. But the Bears got a steal and he is a LEGIT blue-chip QB prospect. The first one they've ever drafted in the modern era. Broncos should've snatched him up at #9- they will regret taking a CB over a franchise QB. 

I think the Jets are going to really regret picking the 13 year old mormon girl over Fields. Not a buyer or believer in Wilson. At all. This will end in disaster. It's the freakin' Jets.

Not sold on Trey Lance at all- but Kyle Shanahan can make any QB at least decent. Lawrence is the best QB prospect by far- but Lance is going to the best offensive/QB coach by far. And that matters.

Urban is going to have the Jags good- and real good sooner than later. Lawrence was the best QB prospect in the draft and best since Luck probably, and the NFL is ALL about the QB. Urbz gots himself a heckuva QB prospect to build a team with. James Robinson was a breakout undrafted rookie RB last season for the Jags, and now they added some serious speed/play-making ability to pair with him in Travis Etienne. Lawrence at QB and Robinson + Etienne - that's a REALLY nice really young backfield to build on for the future.

Bengals made a massive mistake taking a WR over Penei Sewell. I get it- they wanted to pair Burrow back with his former go to guy in college- but Burrow got his ass kicked last year bc the Bengals OL was god awful. He can't throw the ball to Chase if he's on his back and broken in half. Sewell was by far the best OL prospect to come along in ages. I'd compare him to like Jake Long/Joe Thomas. I think we haven't seen OT prospect that good since. And Bengals could've shored up the LT spot for the next 10 years and they said- nah no thanks.

New England bought fools gold with Mac Jones. Not a buyer at all. Kid played on a literally Pro Bowl/1st round All-Star team. He's not the 2nd coming of Tom Brady. There isn't ever going to be another Tom Brady again. 
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #109 on: May 04, 2021, 09:45:04 AM »
I get the occasional UGA feed, the last one was about having nine draft picks, a new school record.  And I thought, well, what does that mean?

I get that for prospects, it's a good looking figure, come here, look how many of our guys are drafted.  It also correlates pretty well with recruiting numbers 3-4 years ago, which is fine.  It also means the larder was drained a good bit of course.  But, it doesn't have much impact on our results in CFB going forward beyond those arguably slight effects (or not).

Net net net, meh.
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #110 on: May 04, 2021, 10:09:21 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on May 04, 2021, 09:00:40 AM


FL by far #1 at NFL talent, TX close 2nd
:57: huh?
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Re: 2021 NFL Draft
« Reply #111 on: May 04, 2021, 10:13:46 AM »
The Jets are some sort of vortex of things not working out.  Everything they do ends poorly.  They're a red-headed stepchild in multiple ways:  they're the "other" NY team, they're the "other" green team (Eagles), their draft picks rarely work out.  Nothing with the franchise seems permanent at all.  Even when they peak and sneak into an AFC Championship game....they just never seem to matter.  Not even on the extreme bad end - the Bungles and Browns you can make fun of, but the Jets aren't even on the radar enough to make fun of, really.

They need a brand change more than any other franchise I can think of.  New logo, colors.....anything to help them matter.
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