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Title: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 22, 2021, 09:28:07 PM
Surprised we didn't already have a thread.  Putting together my big board right now, for my mock draft for next week, and noticing several guys who opted out last year who are falling quite a bit.  Might ease some fears about that becoming a thing post-COVID.

Rousseau from Miami was a top 10 pick going into the year, now has generally a 2nd round grade.  Rashod Bateman, same deal.  Jhamon Ausbon?  Probably a Day 3 pick now.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 22, 2021, 11:18:44 PM
If I opted out, I would have logged all of my workouts and football-related work put in and given it to every team.  Take it or leave it, but just provide it.  Just the fact you took the effort to do that would impress smart teams.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 23, 2021, 02:02:48 PM
TE Pitts and WR Toney figure to go in the 1st for the Gators.
OT Forsythe is getting some looks bc he tested well.  He's a long 6'8" and athletic.  Wasn't especially good, though.
Same with DT Slaton.  He's a monster, but didn't play all that well.  If he can learn how to play the position instead of trying to mug the guy in front of him every play, he could be a very late round steal.
Mr. Underperformance, Shoe-Thrower himself, CB Wilson is getting some love, too, due to a good 40 time with a stout build.  It's amazing what can potentially erase a guy who regressed from his FR season.  
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 23, 2021, 02:18:08 PM
Really interested to see where Rondale Moore ends up and how early he's picked... I could see him in the late first round, and anything mid-second round or worse he's an absolute steal. 
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on April 23, 2021, 03:12:14 PM
did he run a scorching 40?
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 23, 2021, 03:14:06 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on April 23, 2021, 03:12:14 PM
did he run a scorching 40?
4.29 at the Purdue pro day. 

He's invited to the combine which starts next Thursday.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on April 23, 2021, 03:16:12 PM
Interested to see where the QB's go. If I'm the Jets, I take Fields #2. Period. Only QB's I'd take in 1st round are Lawerence and Fields. Wouldn't touch Wilson til round 2, Lance til round 3, and Mac Jones til at least the 4th. 
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: rolltidefan on April 23, 2021, 03:32:11 PM
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on April 23, 2021, 03:14:06 PM
4.29 at the Purdue pro day.

He's invited to the combine which starts next Thursday.
you mean draft?
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 23, 2021, 03:37:14 PM
Is Moore short?  I'm surprised Toney is 6' even.  He plays like a 5'8" pygmy (in a good way).
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: Cincydawg on April 23, 2021, 03:44:23 PM
Quote from: Mdot21 on April 23, 2021, 03:16:12 PM
Interested to see where the QB's go. If I'm the Jets, I take Fields #2. Period. Only QB's I'd take in 1st round are Lawerence and Fields. Wouldn't touch Wilson til round 2, Lance til round 3, and Mac Jones til at least the 4th.
I don't pay much attention, but I did see something that had Fields dropping below Matt Jones.  These "predictions" are something to pass time.  I'm content to just await the actual thing.  I guess one can bet on the outcome of course.

Would you say Lawrence is as close to a "sure thing" as there normally is?  If the Bungles draft a QB, I know he's nearly always a bust.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on April 23, 2021, 04:00:49 PM
Draft beer not people
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: Cincydawg on April 23, 2021, 04:11:18 PM
I have no clue if this is a good guess or not:

NFL Mock Drafts 2021 - Football Draft Projections - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/)

I like Fields, I saw him downfield trying to block a couple of times.  He's a competitor.

Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 23, 2021, 05:35:50 PM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 23, 2021, 03:37:14 PM
Is Moore short?  I'm surprised Toney is 6' even.  He plays like a 5'8" pygmy (in a good way).
Moore was listed by Purdue as 5'9"...

...and measured at the pro day as 5'7". 
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 23, 2021, 10:22:40 PM
Eeek.  That's gong to push him way down, fair or not.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 23, 2021, 10:53:12 PM
Shakur Brown should keep MSU draft streak alive.  Beyond that Naquan Jones is the only other one who might get drafted.

Hoping to finalize my big board over the weekend, so I can get to the draft on Monday.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on April 24, 2021, 01:55:47 PM
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 23, 2021, 03:44:23 PM
I don't pay much attention, but I did see something that had Fields dropping below Matt Jones.  These "predictions" are something to pass time.  I'm content to just await the actual thing.  I guess one can bet on the outcome of course.

Would you say Lawrence is as close to a "sure thing" as there normally is?  If the Bungles draft a QB, I know he's nearly always a bust.
I think Lawerence is probably the best QB prospect since Luck or Burrow. And that is true of most Bungle draft picks in general- but I feel like Burrow has a chance of being really special- IF they can protect him. He took an absolute beating last year and got hurt. They need to draft and sign him some OL's and stop making him do so many 7-step drops. Protect him and let him get that ball out quickly- and he'll last a long time and be a stud.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on April 24, 2021, 01:56:53 PM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 23, 2021, 10:22:40 PM
Eeek.  That's gong to push him way down, fair or not.
I think in the past it definitely would've hurt him- but with so many smaller WR's excelling now because of all the rule changes- feel like the height really isn't an issue all that much anymore.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 24, 2021, 03:39:38 PM
Yes, it's less of an issue for sure.  But 5'7" is reeeeeeally small.  
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 24, 2021, 05:27:16 PM
The draft can hurry up and get over with already if only because the clickbait-y comparisons are out of hand. An "expert" compared Mac Jones to Brady. Another compared Zach Wilson to Favre. At this point it’s editorial malpractice.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 24, 2021, 08:53:41 PM
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on April 24, 2021, 05:27:16 PM
The draft can hurry up and get over with already if only because the clickbait-y comparisons are out of hand. An "expert" compared Mac Jones to Brady. Another compared Zach Wilson to Favre. At this point it’s editorial malpractice.
Do you think this is what the NFL wanted by moving the draft back?  

Mock Draft 7.0s instead of just 2.0s
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 25, 2021, 10:01:25 AM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 24, 2021, 08:53:41 PM
Do you think this is what the NFL wanted by moving the draft back? 

Mock Draft 7.0s instead of just 2.0s
I miss the Saturday-Sunday draft.

The early rounds all day Saturday was great.  They just needed to speed it up.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 27, 2021, 08:18:38 AM
My mock draft time.  As always, not what I'm predicting, what I would do...

FIRST ROUND

1JAGUARSQB Trevor Lawrence, Clemson
2JETSQB Zach Wilson, BYU
349ERSQB JUSTIN FIELDS, OHIO STATE
4FALCONSTE Kyle Pitts, Florida
5BENGALSOT Penei Sewell, Oregon
6DOLPHINSWR Ja'Marr Chase, LSU
7LIONSWR Jaylen Waddle, Alabama
8PANTHERSCB Patrick Surtain II, Alabama
9BRONCOSILB MICAH PARSONS, PENN STATE
10EAGLESWR DeVonta Smith, Alabama
11GIANTSOLB KWITY PAYE, MICHIGAN
12COWBOYSCB Caleb Farley, Virginia Tech
13CHARGERSOT RASHAWN SLATER, NORTHWESTERN
14VIKINGSOT Christian Darrisaw, Virginia Tech
15PATRIOTSQB Trey Lance, North Dakota State
16CARDINALSCB Jaycee Horn, South Carolina
17RAIDERSS Trevon Moehrig, TCU
18DOLPHINSOLB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame
19WASHINGTON FTWR RASHOD BATEMAN, MINNESOTA
20BEARSOG Alijah Vera-Tucker, USC
21COLTSDE Jaelan Phillips, Miami
22TITANSCB GREG NEWSOME II, NORTHWESTERN
23JETSDE/OLB Azeez Ojulari, Georgia
24STEELERSOT Teven Jenkins, Oklahoma State
25JAGUARSWR Terrace Marshall Jr., LSU
26BROWNSDT Christian Barmore, Alabama
27FALCONSOLB Zaven Collins, Tulsa
28SAINTSWR RONDALE MOORE, PURDUE
29PACKERSDE/OLB JAYSON OWEH, PENN STATE
30BILLSRB Travis Etienne, Clemson
31BRONCOSQB Mac Jones, Alabama
32BUCCANEERSWR Kadarius Toney, Florida


Trades:
Cowboys trade #10 pick and 2nd round (#44) to Eagles for #12 pick, 2nd round (#37), and 4th round (#123)
Ravens trade #27 pick to Falcons for 2nd round (#35) and 4th round (#108)
Ravens trade #31 pick to Broncos for for 2nd round (#40) and 4th round (#114)
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: Cincydawg on April 27, 2021, 08:21:27 AM
I think Mac Jones might end up being a very good starter in the League in 2-3 years.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on April 27, 2021, 08:45:25 AM
I hope the Vikings take an OT in the first round
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on April 27, 2021, 09:35:52 AM
I hope the Browns hit something-anything after SO many misses thru the years
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 27, 2021, 10:48:11 AM
Every QB's dream should be being selected in the last third of the 1st round.  Get on a team that has some idea of what it's doing.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 27, 2021, 10:55:06 AM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 27, 2021, 10:48:11 AM
Every QB's dream should be being selected in the last third of the 1st round.  Get on a team that has some idea of what it's doing.
Well, yes, but here it's Denver trading up out of the top of the 2nd round to get him
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 27, 2021, 11:38:13 AM
Atlanta wins the "if these were gladiators fighting to the death" contest in this mock.  2 freak monsters, in the best way possible, in Pitts and Collins.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 27, 2021, 11:53:27 AM
SECOND ROUND

33JAGUARSCB Asante Samuel Jr., Florida
34JETSRB Najee Harris, Alabama
35RAVENSWR Elijah Moore, Ole Miss
36DOLPHINSRB Javonte Williams, North Carolina
37COWBOYSDT Levi Onwuzurike, Washington
38BENGALSDE Gregory Rousseau, Miami
39PANTHERSTE PAT FRIERMUTH, PENN STATE
40RAVENSOC Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma
41LIONSILB Jamin Davis, Kentucky
42GIANTSOG WYATT DAVIS, OHIO STATE
4349ERSOLB Joe Tryon, Washington
44EAGLESOLB Joseph Ossai, Texas
45JAGUARSOT JALEN MAYFIELD, MICHIGAN
46PATRIOTSILB Nick Bolton, Missouri
47CHARGERSDE Carlos Basham Jr., Wake Forest
48RAIDERSOT Samuel Cosmi, Texas
49CARDINALSOLB Jabril Cox, LSU
50DOLPHINSOT Dillon Radunz, ND State
51WASHINGTON FTOT Alex Leatherwood, Alabama
52BEARSCB Elijah Molden, Washington
53TITANSOT Liam Eichenberg, Notre Dame
54COLTSCB Eric Stokes, Georgia
55STEELERSC Landon Dickerson, Alabama
56SEAHAWKSDT DAVIYON NIXON, IOWA
57COWBOYSS Richie Grant, Central Florida
58CHIEFSCB Tyson Campbell, Georgia
59JAGUARSS Jevon Holland, Oregon
60SAINTSCB Ifeatu Melifonwu, Syracuse
61BILLSCB Kelvin Joseph, Kentucky
62PACKERSWR Tylan Wallace, Oklahoma State
63CHIEFSOT Jackson Carman, Clemson
64BUCCANEERSOLB Ronnie Perkins, Oklahoma

Trades:
Rams trade #57 pick to Cowboys for two 3rd round picks (#75 and #99)
Browns trade #59 pick to Jaguars for 3rd round (#65) and 4th round (#130)
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on April 27, 2021, 12:09:45 PM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 27, 2021, 11:38:13 AM
Atlanta wins the "if these were gladiators fighting to the death" contest in this mock.  2 freak monsters, in the best way possible, in Pitts and Collins.
Well the Blood Sport Thread is down the hall
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 27, 2021, 02:01:01 PM
Asante Samuel went to FSU.  
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on April 27, 2021, 02:15:02 PM
all those florida programs look the same
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 27, 2021, 03:22:36 PM
THIRD ROUND
65BROWNSWR D'Wayne Eskridge, Western Michigan
66JETSCB Aaron Robinson, Central Florida
67TEXANSWR Dyami Brown, North Carolina
68FALCONSRB Michael Carter, North Carolina
69BENGALSWR Amon-Ra St. Brown, USC
70EAGLESCB Paulson Adebo, Stanford
71BRONCOSOG Trey Smith, Tennessee
72LIONSS Andre Cisco, Syracuse
73PANTHERSILB BARON BROWNING, OHIO STATE
74WASHINGTON FTTE Brevin Jordan, Miami
75RAMSC Quinn Meinerz, UW-Whitewater
76GIANTSTE Hunter Long, Boston College
77CHARGERSS Hamsah Nasirildeen, Florida State
78BUCCANEERSDT Alim McNeill, NC State
79RAIDERSDT Milton Williams, Louisiana Tech
80RAIDERSILB Chazz Surratt, North Carolina
81DOLPHINSDE Payton Turner, Houston
82WASHINGTON FTOC JOSH MYERS, OHIO STATE
83BEARSWR Tutu Atwell, Louisville
84EAGLESOG Aaron Banks, Notre Dame
85TITANSWR NICO COLLINS, MICHIGAN
86JETSOT Spencer Brown, Northern Iowa
87SAINTSDT Jay Tufele, USC
88RAMSOT Walker Little, Stanford
89BROWNSDE Patrick Jones, Pittsburgh
90VIKINGSS JAMAR JOHNSON, INDIANA
91BROWNSILB PETE WERNER, OHIO STATE
92PACKERSNT Tyler Shelvin, LSU
93BILLSDT TOMMY TOGIAI, OHIO STATE
94RAVENSOG Deonte Brown, Alabama
95VIKINGSWR Amari Rodgers, Clemson
96PATRIOTSDT Marlon Tuipulotu, USC
97CHARGERSTE Tommy Tremble, Notre Dame
98STEELERSRB TREY SERMON, OHIO STATE
99RAMSOLB Dylan Moses, Alabama
100TITANSS Ar'Darius Washington, TCU
101LIONSQB Kyle Trask, Florida
102DOLPHINSRB Kenneth Gainwell, Memphis
103RAMSDE Quincy Roche, Miami
104RAVENSOT James Hudson, Cincinnati
105SAINTSOLB CAM MCGRONE, MICHIGAN

Trades:
Vikings trade #78 pick to Buccaneers for pick #95, 4th round (#137) and 5th round (#176)
Steelers trade #87 pick Saints for pick #98 and 4th round (#133)
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 27, 2021, 03:40:57 PM
Dylan Moses played LB at Alabama for 8-some-odd years.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 27, 2021, 10:39:56 PM
FOURTH ROUND

106JAGUARSDE Chris Rumph II, Duke
107JETSOG Ben Cleveland, Georgia
108RAVENSDE Rashad Weaver, Pittsburgh
109TEXANSDE Osa Odighizuwa, UCLA
110BROWNSCB Trill Williams, Syracuse
111BENGALSOLB Jordan Smith, UAB
112LIONSDT Marvin Wilson, Florida State
113PANTHERSQB Kellen Mond, Texas A&M
114RAVENSS Caden Sterns, Texas
115COWBOYSDE Dayo Odeyingbo, Vanderbilt
116GIANTSOT Brady Christensen, BYU
11749ERSCB BENJAMIN ST-JUSTE, MINNESOTA
118CHARGERSWR Anthony Schwartz, Auburn
119VIKINGSDE Jaylen Twyman, Pittsburgh
120PATRIOTSWR Seth Williams, Auburn
121RAIDERSCB SHAUN WADE, OHIO STATE
122PATRIOTSCB AMBRY THOMAS, MICHIGAN
123EAGLESQB Davis Mills, Stanford
124PATRIOTSRB Rhamondre Stevenson, Oklahoma
125TEXANSDT Bobby Brown III, Texas A&M
126TITANSOLB Monty Rice, Georgia
127COLTSWR IHMIR SMITH-MARSETTE, IOWA
128STEELERSCB Camryn Bynum, California
129SEAHAWKSCB Robert Rochell, Central Arkansas
130BROWNSOLB Hamilcar Rached Jr., Oregon State
131RAVENSDE/OLB SHAKA TONEY, PENN STATE
132BROWNSS Talanoa Hufanga, USC
133STEELERSQB Jamie Newman, Georgia
134VIKINGSOC Trey Hill, Georgia
135PACKERSCB Kary Vincent Jr., LSU
136RAVENSRB Chuba Hubbard, Oklahoma State
137VIKINGSCB SHAKUR BROWN, MICHIGAN STATE
138COWBOYSOT D'Ante Smith, East Carolina
139WASHINGTON FTS Divine Deablo, Virginia Tech
140STEELERSOLB Charles Snowden, Virginia
141RAMSCB Israel Mukuamu, South Carolina
142PACKERSDE Joshua Kaindoh, Florida State
143VIKINGSRB Khalil Herbert, Virginia Tech
144CHIEFSWR Sage Surratt, Wake Forest

Trades:
Cowboys trade #123 pick to Eagles for 5th round (#150)and two 6th round (#189 and #224)
Washington FT trade #124 pick to Patriots for #139 pick and 6th round (#197)
Vikings trade #125 pick to Texans for 5th round (#147) and 6th round (#195)
Ravens trade #136 pick to Cardinals for 5th round (#160), 
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 27, 2021, 11:26:49 PM
FIFTH ROUND

145JAGUARSTE Tre McKitty, Georgia
146JETSWR Marquez Stevenson, Houston
147VIKINGSOG KENDRICK GREEN, ILLINOIS
148FALCONSCB Marco Wilson, Florida
149BENGALSTE Kenny Yeboah, Ole Miss
150COWBOYSILB DERRICK BARNES, PURDUE
151PANTHERSWR Shi Smith, South Carolina
152BRONCOSCB Thomas Graham Jr., Oregon
153GIANTSCB Rodarius Williams, Oklahoma State
154LIONSS Richard LeCounte, Georgia
15549ERSS James Wiggins, Cincinnati
156DOLPHINSS Damar Hamlin, Pittsburgh
157VIKINGSILB Garrett Wallow, TCU
158TEXANSCB Keith Taylor, Washington
159CHARGERSCB Olaijah Griffin, USC
160CARDINALSRB Kylin Hill, Mississippi State
161BILLSDE Cameron Sample, Tulane
162RAIDERSWR Tamarrion Terry, Florida State
163WASHINGTON FTOLB Daelin Hayes, Notre Dame
164BEARSOT Robert Hainsey, Notre Dame
165COLTSOT Dan Moore Jr., Texas A&M
166TITANSLB Tony Fields II, West Virginia
167RAIDERSDE/OLB Elerson G. Smith, Northern Iowa
168VIKINGSOLB Adetokunbo Ogundeji, Notre Dame
169BROWNSOC Drake Jackson, Kentucky
170JAGUARSRB Jermar Jefferson, Oregon State
171RAVENSCB Tay Gowan, Central Florida
17249ERSOG Sadarius Hutcherson, South Carolina
173PACKERSILB K.J. Britt, Auburn
174BILLSOC Drew Dalman, Stanford
175CHIEFSDE CHAUNCEY GOLSON, IOWA
176VIKINGSDT Darius Stills, West Virginia
177PATRIOTSS Joshuah Bledsoe, Missouri
178PACKERSOG David Moore, Grambling
179COWBOYSWR Frank Darby, Arizona State
18049ERSWR Simi Fehoko, Stanford
181CHIEFSOLB Patrick Johnson, Tulane
182FALCONSOG Tommy Kraemer, Notre Dame
183FALCONSS JaCoby Stevens, LSU
184RAVENSDT Jonathan Marshall, Arkansas

Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on April 28, 2021, 06:35:52 AM
Lot of local smoke the Browns like Zaven Collins LB from Tulsa(ELA has him going next to ATL) here is their scoop

He’s a 260-pound playmaker with the range to get sideline to sideline, and he also has the ball skills of a defensive back, evident in the four interceptions he hauled in during the 2020 campaign. His power from the linebacker spot also makes him a nightmare for blockers to deal with when he blitzes.

Some having them in rd 2 taking - Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia others like Kelvin Joseph, CB, Kentucky
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 28, 2021, 12:12:33 PM
SIXTH ROUND
185CHARGERSOG Kayode Awosika, Buffalo
186JETSOLB William Bradley-King, Baylor
187FALCONSOT BRENDEN JAIMES, NEBRASKA
188PATRIOTSDE/OLB Wyatt Hubert, Kansas State
189COWBOYSTE Kylen Granson, SMU
190BENGALSILB PADDY FISHER, NORTHWESTERN
191BRONCOSRB Jaret Patterson, Buffalo
192COWBOYSDE/OLB Tarron Jackson, Coastal Carolina
193PANTHERSNT Khyris Tonga, BYU
19449ERSNT Tedarrell Slaton, Florida
195VIKINGSTE NICK EUBANKS, MICHIGAN
196GIANTSWR Austin Watkins Jr., UAB
197WASHINGTON FTCB RACHAD WILDGOOSE, WISCONSIN
198VIKINGSQB Sam Ehlinger, Texas
199CHARGERSILB JUSTIN HILLIARD, OHIO STATE
200RAIDERSOG Jack Anderson, Texas Tech
201GIANTSOC MICHAL MENET, PENN STATE
202BENGALSOT/OG ALARIC JACKSON, IOWA
203TEXANSS Darrick Forrest, Cincinnati
204BEARSDE Malik Herring, Georgia
205TITANSTE Tony Poljan, Virginia
206COLTSS Brady Breeze, Oregon
207CHIEFSOC Jimmy Morrisey, Pittsburgh
208DOLPHINSOG Robert Jones, Middle Tennessee
209RAMSWR Trevon Grimes, Florida
210RAVENSTE Zach Davidson, Central Missouri
211BROWNSRB Elijah Mitchell, UL Lafayette
212TEXANSILB Ernest Jones, South Carolina
213BILLSOT Carson Green, Texas A&M
214PACKERSOT Tommy Doyle, Miami(Ohio)
215TITANSOG Royce Newman, Ole Miss
216STEELERSILB Isaiah McDuffie, Boston College
217BUCCANEERSRB Javian Hawkins, Louisville
218SAINTSS Tyree Gillespie, Missouri
219FALCONSQB Feleipe Franks, Arkansas
220PACKERSS Paris Ford, Pittsburgh
221BEARSOLB Grant Stuard, Houston
222PANTHERSDE Janarius Robinson, Florida State
223CARDINALSWR Cornell Powell, Clemson
224COWBOYSRB Pooka Williams Jr., Kansas
225EAGLESS Jamien Sherwood, Auburn
226JETSTE Matt Bushman, BYU
227BRONCOSWR Cade Johnson, SC State
228BEARSRB CHRIS EVANS, MICHIGAN

Trades:
Cowboys trade pick #227 to Broncos for two 7th round picks (#237 and #239)
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 28, 2021, 12:36:50 PM
#209 WR Grimes had a weird thing happen - his initial, unofficial 40 times averaged 4.39, which for a 6'5" guy was great.  Then, he learns the next day (or later that day) that his official average was nearly a full tenth-second slower.

I wonder how many guys that happened to.  You get great initial news and then sink to the end of the draft bc of official times.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on April 28, 2021, 12:55:35 PM
VIKINGS QB Sam Ehlinger, Texas

damn, don't think he can beat out Kirk
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 28, 2021, 01:12:32 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on April 28, 2021, 12:55:35 PM
VIKINGS QB Sam Ehlinger, Texas

damn, don't think he can beat out Kirk
I don't think they are looking for a guy to beat out Kirk this Draft.  That gets them a competent backup who can compete next year against whoever they draft or sign in 2022, or against Kirk on a much cheaper deal.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 28, 2021, 01:17:17 PM
Discount Tim Tebow.  Check!
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 28, 2021, 10:40:39 PM
SEVENTH ROUND

229SAINTSILB Amen Ogbongbemiga, Oklahoma State
23049ERSRB Demetric Felton, UCLA
231DOLPHINSCB Tre Brown, Oklahoma
232TITANSDE Victor Dimukeje, Tennessee
233TEXANSTE Noah Gray, Duke
234EAGLESOT Jaylon Moore, Western Michigan
235BENGALSCB D.J. Daniel, Georgia
236BILLSWR Jaelon Darden, North Texas
237COWBOYSOG Bryce Hargrove, Pittsburgh
238COWBOYSQB Shane Buechele, SMU
239COWBOYSK Jose Borregales, Miami
240EAGLESDE JONATHAN COOPER, OHIO STATE
241CHARGERSDE/OLB Malcolm Koonce, Buffalo
242PATRIOTSOT Josh Ball, Marshall
243CARDINALSDE Ta'Quon Graham, Texas
244WASHINGTON FTRB Larry Rountree III, Missouri
245STEELERSWR Dazz Newsome, North Carolina
246WASHINGTON FTILB Anthony Hines III, Texas A&M
247CARDINALSTE John Bates, Boise State
248COLTSTE Quintin Morris, Bowling Green
249JAGUARSLB NICK NIEMANN, IOWA
250SEAHAWKSWR Dez Fitzpatrick, Louisville
251BUCCANEERSOT Adrian Ealy, Oklahoma
252RAMSS Mark Webb, Georgia
253BRONCOSOT Stone Forsythe, Florida
254STEELERSTE Pro Wells, TCU
255SAINTSFB BEN MASON, MICHIGAN
256PACKERSS Christian Uphoff, Illinois State
257BROWNST Larry Borom, Missouri
258DOLPHINSDT Quinton Bohanna, Kentucky
259BUCCANEERSS Shawn Davis, Florida

Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 29, 2021, 11:39:09 AM
How many programming hours of mock drafts will have to be replaced after today?  
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MaximumSam on April 29, 2021, 08:38:32 PM
Lawrence to the Jags and Smith to the Jets, as expected
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MaximumSam on April 29, 2021, 08:43:36 PM
Wow, Trey Lance drafted by the 49ers. 
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on April 29, 2021, 09:22:19 PM
I can't believe that,I mean didn't they drop two no 1s for that pick?I haven't seen him throw but just based on the competition he'll think he got tossed into a wood chipper

Others are saying he played in one game last season?if that's true then that's the dumbest pick since Bellichik took Craig powell no 1` in '94 for the Browns
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 29, 2021, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: MaximumSam on April 29, 2021, 08:43:36 PM
Wow, Trey Lance drafted by the 49ers.


How in the world NFL professionals with much more exposure to football than myself somehow think Lance is a more worthwhile pick at QB than Justin Fields beats me, big time.

edit: Congrats Bears!
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MaximumSam on April 29, 2021, 09:51:14 PM
Fields to the Bears - not bad
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 29, 2021, 11:01:59 PM
Quote from: MaximumSam on April 29, 2021, 09:51:14 PM
Fields to the Bears - not bad
Except for the fact that Ryan Pace has a terrible track record trading up for quarterbacks
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 29, 2021, 11:05:09 PM
https://twitter.com/awaytoworthy/status/1387953374180544516?s=19
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 29, 2021, 11:15:15 PM
I can't believe Paye fell that far.  That's a steal.  And as an aside, he's as likable as the BYU qb is dislikable
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 29, 2021, 11:56:07 PM
Zack Wilson looks like a howdy-doody doll.  Creeps me the hell out.  

Pitts and Toney drafted as expected.  
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 29, 2021, 11:56:48 PM
Quote from: MaximumSam on April 29, 2021, 09:51:14 PM
Fields to the Bears - not bad
Cost them a 1st rd pick next year.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MaximumSam on April 30, 2021, 06:43:26 AM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 29, 2021, 11:56:48 PM
Cost them a 1st rd pick next year.
If they got a competent quarterback, it would be worth five first round picks
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on April 30, 2021, 09:25:12 AM
Quote from: MaximumSam on April 29, 2021, 08:43:36 PM
Wow, Trey Lance drafted by the 49ers.
THAT'S what 3 no 1s get you.I'd like to be the Fins GM right now
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on April 30, 2021, 09:26:13 AM
Quote from: MaximumSam on April 30, 2021, 06:43:26 AM
If they got a competent quarterback, it would be worth five first round picks
um no
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 30, 2021, 09:41:51 AM
Feel sorry for Justin Fields and his one-way ticket to Palookaville Chicago.

He coulda had class. He coulda been a contender. He coulda been somebody, instead of a bum Bear, which let's face it, is what he now is.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on April 30, 2021, 10:00:19 AM
the truth

I was rooting for the kid, but no more
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2021, 10:21:20 AM
Quote from: MaximumSam on April 30, 2021, 06:43:26 AM
If they got a competent quarterback, it would be worth five first round picks
Calm down, Ditka.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2021, 10:25:47 AM
There was a lot of reunions last night.
Burrow gets Chase.
Tua gets Waddle.
Lawrence and Etienne get to be millionaire dorm mates.  

Other tidbits, if you buy them:
the best defensive player went 12th
the best pass-rusher went 18th
Northwestern had as many 1st rounders chosen as OSU and UM put together
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 30, 2021, 10:38:15 AM
Would like the Lions to get Terrace Marshall this round.

They need a WR, and I think he's a full step ahead of the Moores (Rondale and Elijah)
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2021, 10:52:09 AM
Based on what?  He's a full step ahead of them on height.  Anything else?  I don't know all of their measurables, etc., but Elijah Moore was hanging with the Heisman winner on stats for most of the season.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 30, 2021, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 29, 2021, 11:56:07 PM
Zack Wilson looks like a howdy-doody doll.  Creeps me the hell out. 

For better or worse ZW benefitted from playing a ton last year, thus yielding no shortage of game tape for GMs and "experts" to obsess over. We've had to hear so much about ZW we've all become conditioned to him going as early as second, which doesn't make ZW any less worse of a pick for the Jets. I watched a ton of BYU last season (only team playing West of the Rockies before Halloween) and Wilson has a truly fantastic passing ability but lacks in size, mobility, and seems pretty unsure of himself.

After watching the entire first round, there's plenty of questionable GMing to go around.

-I've already whined about the 49ers drafting Trey Lance

-This must be the 3rd straight year where networks haven't had player highlights ready for the Raiders pick b/c Gruden and Mayock go with guys (OT Leatherwood last night) that aren't expected to be drafted until a round later. Always feels like the Raiders are drafting a round behind - taking projected 2nd rounders in the 1st, projected 3rd rounders in the 2nd, etc.

-I don't understand why the Jets TRADED UP from 23 to 14 to take an OL. An OG, no less - when is the last time an OG was drafted in the 1st round? For once an RB (Najee Harris) would've been worth a 1st round pick.

-Good for Mac Jones going to the Patriots, but this is a glorified redo of Jarrett Stidham getting picked out of Auburn.

-For the Michigan fans on here, how good do you expect Kwity Paye to be? NY Giants needed pass rushers and said no thanks.

-Jaguars picking RB Etienne when they have decent RBs and so many needs elsewhere made no sense.

-RBs are so dispensable it's harder to justify as first rounders, however, the Steelers addressed a huge need in taking Najee Harris last night. Excellent pick.

-No problems with Bengals taking Chase over an OL. Chase will be a production stud and there's plenty of NFL ready OL left. 
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 30, 2021, 11:14:34 AM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2021, 10:52:09 AM
Based on what?  He's a full step ahead of them on height.  Anything else?  I don't know all of their measurables, etc., but Elijah Moore was hanging with the Heisman winner on stats for most of the season.
Height and fit with what the Lions need on the outside
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2021, 11:36:07 AM
Who is their slot guy?

My pause on Terace is that he's only been "the guy" for like 5 games, ever.  He was mostly the 3rd guy.  That doesn't mean he's not good, but it also means he's only been a full-time X or Z for 5 games.  

E.Moore is undersized but was a vacuum cleaner with the ball in the air.  86 catches.....2nd on the team had 27.  

But it's the NFL, so stats are basically meaningless and we need to know how quickly he can take a shuttle to the airport or some such thing.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on April 30, 2021, 12:09:44 PM

Quote from: ELA on April 30, 2021, 10:38:15 AM
Would like the Lions to get Terrace Marshall this round.

They need a WR, and I think he's a full step ahead of the Moores (Rondale and Elijah)
Damn I'd grab Nico Collins,little rusty but he had the best hands/concentration.Great combination of size/speed/attitude,doesn't mind contact and led the BIG with a 19.7 ypc in 2019.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 30, 2021, 12:20:24 PM
Quote from: MrNubbz on April 30, 2021, 12:09:44 PM
Damn I'd grab Nico Collins,little rusty but he had the best hands/concentration.Great combination of size/speed/attitude,doesn't mind contact and led the BIG with a 19.7 ypc in 2019.
If they don't go WR in the 2nd, I'd love them to pick him up at the top of the 3rd.

Or trade down and get him later in the 2nd.

I think Marshall is my #1 WR left.  The Moores are 2a and 2b in some order.

Big drop down to that next group of Collins, Tylan Wallace, St. Brown, Dyami Brown, Eskridge, Tutu Atwell
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on April 30, 2021, 12:31:13 PM
I don't think so,playing in a Northern climate Nico will prove his worth in late season crappy weather conditions - even though the lions are in a dome.GB,Chi,Minny aren't maybe a Hines Ward type
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2021, 02:56:45 PM
Hines Ward....a GA boy.  lol
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on April 30, 2021, 04:30:33 PM
https://twitter.com/ChrisMClark19/status/1387955909343813635?s=19
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on April 30, 2021, 05:56:39 PM
Who played 10 yrs or so in Balmy Pittsburgh
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: rook119 on April 30, 2021, 08:04:07 PM
Jeebus, the Bears are cleaning up. I don't think anyone would be terribly shocked if Teven ends up as the best OL in the draft. 
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2021, 09:16:19 PM
Whiffed on this - Big 12 had zero players drafted in the 1st round.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2021, 09:42:13 PM
Bucs take Trask at the end of the 2nd.  That's interesting.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2021, 10:01:44 PM
Lions loading up on DTs.....
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2021, 11:40:36 PM
B1G Draft Update:
11. CHI Justin Fields, QB...OSU
12. DAL Micah Parsons, LB...PSU
13. SD  Rashawn Slater, OT...NW
21. IND Kwity Paye, DE...UM
26. CLE Greg Newsome II, CB...NW
27. BAL Rashod Bateman, WR...MIN
31. BAL Odafe Oweh, LB...PSU
--------------------------------------
49. ARI Rondale Moore, WR...PU
55. PIT Pat Freiermuth, TE...PSU
60. NO  Pete Werner, LB...OSU
62. GB  Josh Myers, C...OSU
--------------------------------------
68. ATL Jalen Mayfield, T...UM
74. WAS Benjamin St-Juste, CB...MIN
84. DAL Chauncey Golston, DE...IOWA
86. MIN Wyatt Davis, G...OSU
87. PIT Kendrick Green, C...ILL
88. SF  Trey Sermon, RB...OSU
89. HOU Nico Collins, WR...UM
102. SF Ambry Thomas, CB...UM
105.  DEN Baron Browning, LB...OSU
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on May 01, 2021, 12:11:02 AM
Always instills confidence when you take a Day 2 guy who plays the same position as your #3 overall pick from the year before
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on May 01, 2021, 07:00:25 AM
In '16 just 5 yrs ago the Browns accrued 14 pix and one guy from that draft is still on the team.Rashod Higgins a WR who they took with their 12th pick.It's those forays into baffoonary that have convinced me - we here could do a better job,much better.It's revolting really and they've done it with distressing frequency.Although so far in this draft it doesn't appear that they've pansed themselves
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on May 01, 2021, 07:05:38 AM
Quote from: ELA on May 01, 2021, 12:11:02 AM
Always instills confidence when you take a Day 2 guy who plays the same position as your #3 overall pick from the year before
Did the Lions do this?
I see Houston picked Nico Collins on a pick aquired from the Browns
Why did NE forfeit their 3rd pick?
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on May 01, 2021, 07:13:43 AM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 30, 2021, 11:40:36 PM
B1G Draft Update:
11. CLE Justin Fields, QB...OSU
I have a bigger update Chicago tapped Fields
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on May 01, 2021, 09:16:37 AM
4 of the top 8 from MSU, with a couple bums named Spurrier and Griese sprinkled in

https://twitter.com/SPARTANTIQUES/status/1388481259710648324?s=19
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 01, 2021, 09:53:25 AM
Quote from: MrNubbz on May 01, 2021, 07:13:43 AM
I have a bigger update Chicago tapped Fields
Ooops, thanks.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on May 01, 2021, 01:51:12 PM
I had over 400 guys on my board, and that WR the Rams just took at #141 wasn't on it
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on May 01, 2021, 02:17:01 PM
Kicker in the 5th?

Woof
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 01, 2021, 02:33:51 PM
Go Gators!
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on May 01, 2021, 05:40:44 PM
MSU was going into the 7th round with nobody picked. UM has now had a full back and a long snapper drafted.  I don't think anyone's fully realized just how barren Dantonio left the roster
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on May 01, 2021, 06:09:31 PM
The Red Cedar Board and Mel Tucker's Staff do
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 01, 2021, 06:29:46 PM
I was looking through the draft and marveling at how often players from the same team are taken back-to-back......with all of the schools, from elite programs to all of FBS to FCS and beyond......and now 3 Penn State guys go in a row.  

Nuts.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MaximumSam on May 01, 2021, 06:36:18 PM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 01, 2021, 06:29:46 PM
I was looking through the draft and marveling at how often players from the same team are taken back-to-back......with all of the schools, from elite programs to all of FBS to FCS and beyond......and now 3 Penn State guys go in a row. 

Nuts.
The Jets drafted two different guys named Michael Carter
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 01, 2021, 06:47:37 PM
The Steelers drafted a fat punter.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on May 01, 2021, 07:21:49 PM
And the 80 year draft streak is dead.

On the flip side, Mel Tucker was able to win a road game, with no NFL ready players, against a team that was so deep, even their long-snapper and fallback got drafted

#keepharbaugh
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 01, 2021, 10:38:29 PM
That stinks, man.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MrNubbz on May 01, 2021, 11:44:58 PM
I can't recall a time when I couldn't pronounce so many players names.And who was the older sweet looking blond lass anouncing the 3rd picks on Friday Night - lively tart
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 02, 2021, 01:16:58 PM
Speaking of eye candy, Zach Wilson is getting sexual mom jokes ALL season long.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on May 02, 2021, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: ELA on May 01, 2021, 07:21:49 PM
And the 80 year draft streak is dead.

On the flip side, Mel Tucker was able to win a road game, with no NFL ready players, against a team that was so deep, even their long-snapper and fallback got drafted

#keepharbaugh
Still blows my mind he lost that game to MSU. Harbaugh had 8 players drafted in 2021. Tucker had zero. Jeem still got his dick kicked in by Tucker. 

#FireHarbs
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: bayareabadger on May 02, 2021, 06:33:10 PM
Quote from: ELA on May 01, 2021, 07:21:49 PM
And the 80 year draft streak is dead.

On the flip side, Mel Tucker was able to win a road game, with no NFL ready players, against a team that was so deep, even their long-snapper and fallback got drafted

#keepharbaugh
The Tucker experiment fascinates me. It’s an arc type that’s hard to pull off. Perhaps he will be more PJ than Brewster.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: MaximumSam on May 02, 2021, 07:36:25 PM
Lance Leipold was my vote for Sparty - he's headed to Kansas. Should be interesting to see how he does in that hole.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 02, 2021, 09:41:54 PM
Quote from: ELA on May 01, 2021, 05:40:44 PM
MSU was going into the 7th round with nobody picked. UM has now had a full back and a long snapper drafted.  I don't think anyone's fully realized just how barren Dantonio left the roster


IMO, MSU will remain in a sort’ve post-Dantonio rebuild for at least another season. If I gotta pick one point where the cracks were evident it was the slow fallout of the 2016 recruiting class. The roster has been walking-wounded ever since.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on May 02, 2021, 10:12:12 PM
Quote from: bayareabadger on May 02, 2021, 06:33:10 PM
The Tucker experiment fascinates me. It’s an arc type that’s hard to pull off. Perhaps he will be more PJ than Brewster.
I've been wary all along.  Dantonio post 2016 lost his way with recruiting.  But you are never going to win at MSU by winning recruiting wars.  UM, OSU, PSU, ND, they are always going to out recruit you.  In basketball, sure.  You win a bottle a year, and bring in an impact transfer, that works.  In football, if MSU pulls in 2 kids in state that UM wants, and one kid from Ohio that OSU wants, that's a good year...and like 15% of a class.  It certainly is being able to get those 2-3 headliners, but it's much more about your hit rate on identifying which kids UM and OSU didn't want, had slipped through the cracks.

Dantonio early on did that.  And really did such a good job that he got too much leash later on, when what he was really doing was just plucking MAC kids, while the fan base assumed he was mining diamonds.  MSU had maybe 15 kids hit the portal, and I believe only one landed at aP5 school.  A DB that went to WSU.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 03, 2021, 07:00:51 AM
Quote from: MaximumSam on May 02, 2021, 07:36:25 PM
Lance Leipold was my vote for Sparty - he's headed to Kansas. Should be interesting to see how he does in that hole.
Honestly, I'm glad he's not in the B1G.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on May 03, 2021, 02:21:44 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-0/s640x640/181833791_4036652903038755_1839089341422632725_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=yQA8-AC2ZTQAX_0uVC9&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&tp=7&oh=5aea104321553192b9f8e9d0440532db&oe=60B6B13E)

Huskers have an up hill battle

they had 2 picks - one from Texas, one from South Dakota
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: ELA on May 03, 2021, 03:34:16 PM
Whoever decided that color coding should find a different job
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 03:54:46 PM
Wow, we should keep track of this more than the census numbers.  GA passed CA?  Ouch. 


People literally just don't play football where there are mountains, apparently.  Even WV, lol.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: rolltidefan on May 03, 2021, 03:56:45 PM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 03:54:46 PM

People literally just don't play football where there are mountains, apparently.  Even WV, lol.
i think you just figured out the problems on rockytop.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 03, 2021, 04:00:35 PM
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 03:54:46 PM
Wow, we should keep track of this more than the census numbers.  GA passed CA?  Ouch.


People literally just don't play football where there are mountains, apparently.  Even WV, lol.

Its amazing how many people are here in California yet the social standing of high school football has just hit the floor. 
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: FearlessF on May 03, 2021, 09:04:54 PM
the state of Arizona didn't product well this year
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on May 04, 2021, 09:00:40 AM
California is a dying shithole- even when it comes to producing NFL talent. Wow. 

FL by far #1 at NFL talent, TX close 2nd, and Georgia is lapping dying shithole California. Wow.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: Mdot21 on May 04, 2021, 09:09:04 AM
ok talking the actual draft- I think Chicago got a hell of a lot better now that they have a legit blue-chip QB prospect to build with. Fields was the 2nd best QB in this draft by a mile- and is a supremely talented athlete who is a QB first- athlete second. Basically opposite of a Lamar Jackson. Fields looks to throw first, run only as a last resort- and oh yeah by the way when he runs- he runs 4.4. Blows my mind he fell as far as he did. But the Bears got a steal and he is a LEGIT blue-chip QB prospect. The first one they've ever drafted in the modern era. Broncos should've snatched him up at #9- they will regret taking a CB over a franchise QB. 

I think the Jets are going to really regret picking the 13 year old mormon girl over Fields. Not a buyer or believer in Wilson. At all. This will end in disaster. It's the freakin' Jets.

Not sold on Trey Lance at all- but Kyle Shanahan can make any QB at least decent. Lawrence is the best QB prospect by far- but Lance is going to the best offensive/QB coach by far. And that matters.

Urban is going to have the Jags good- and real good sooner than later. Lawrence was the best QB prospect in the draft and best since Luck probably, and the NFL is ALL about the QB. Urbz gots himself a heckuva QB prospect to build a team with. James Robinson was a breakout undrafted rookie RB last season for the Jags, and now they added some serious speed/play-making ability to pair with him in Travis Etienne. Lawrence at QB and Robinson + Etienne - that's a REALLY nice really young backfield to build on for the future.

Bengals made a massive mistake taking a WR over Penei Sewell. I get it- they wanted to pair Burrow back with his former go to guy in college- but Burrow got his ass kicked last year bc the Bengals OL was god awful. He can't throw the ball to Chase if he's on his back and broken in half. Sewell was by far the best OL prospect to come along in ages. I'd compare him to like Jake Long/Joe Thomas. I think we haven't seen OT prospect that good since. And Bengals could've shored up the LT spot for the next 10 years and they said- nah no thanks.

New England bought fools gold with Mac Jones. Not a buyer at all. Kid played on a literally Pro Bowl/1st round All-Star team. He's not the 2nd coming of Tom Brady. There isn't ever going to be another Tom Brady again. 
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: Cincydawg on May 04, 2021, 09:45:04 AM
I get the occasional UGA feed, the last one was about having nine draft picks, a new school record.  And I thought, well, what does that mean?

I get that for prospects, it's a good looking figure, come here, look how many of our guys are drafted.  It also correlates pretty well with recruiting numbers 3-4 years ago, which is fine.  It also means the larder was drained a good bit of course.  But, it doesn't have much impact on our results in CFB going forward beyond those arguably slight effects (or not).

Net net net, meh.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 04, 2021, 10:09:21 AM
Quote from: Mdot21 on May 04, 2021, 09:00:40 AM


FL by far #1 at NFL talent, TX close 2nd
:57: huh?
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 04, 2021, 10:13:46 AM
The Jets are some sort of vortex of things not working out.  Everything they do ends poorly.  They're a red-headed stepchild in multiple ways:  they're the "other" NY team, they're the "other" green team (Eagles), their draft picks rarely work out.  Nothing with the franchise seems permanent at all.  Even when they peak and sneak into an AFC Championship game....they just never seem to matter.  Not even on the extreme bad end - the Bungles and Browns you can make fun of, but the Jets aren't even on the radar enough to make fun of, really.

They need a brand change more than any other franchise I can think of.  New logo, colors.....anything to help them matter.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: Cincydawg on May 04, 2021, 10:19:11 AM
The Falcons strike me as largely inept, with a few that slide through who are good, by mistake.
Title: Re: 2021 NFL Draft
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 04, 2021, 12:03:59 PM
Quote from: Cincydawg on May 04, 2021, 10:19:11 AM
The Falcons strike me as largely inept, with a few that slide through who are good, by mistake.
I think "Falcons" and I think urban, big-offense, and flavor.  Whether it was Deion or the Dirty Birds or Andre Rison....just a confident attitude.  
.
But the NFL has basically been dead to me for 8-9 years for whatever reason.