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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2021, 08:25:26 PM »
Quote from: SuperMario on December 06, 2021, 07:41:31 PM
He ran the ball 6 times. Even with the blowout, they should have ran him 20 times. He probably lost the invite solely on the fact that he didn’t touch the ball that game and every other game showed he deserved to be there.
They came out passing and then got down almost immediately.  Sometimes HCs outsmart themselves into stupidity.
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2021, 12:00:38 AM »
The fact Anderson isn't there is ... unfortunate. 

Jordan Davis likely went down with UGA on Saturday. 
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2021, 09:59:07 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on December 07, 2021, 12:00:38 AM
The fact Anderson isn't there is ... unfortunate.


this. i got no problem with the others going, but anderson deserves to at least be there. dude is best player in cfb. most tfl in last 10+ years and top 5 in sacks, with 1 (maybe 2) games left.

and not just heisman. butkus, walter camp, and lott awards too. at least he won nagurski and has decent shot at bednarik.
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2021, 11:25:41 AM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on December 07, 2021, 09:59:07 AM
this. i got no problem with the others going, but anderson deserves to at least be there. dude is best player in cfb. most tfl in last 10+ years and top 5 in sacks, with 1 (maybe 2) games left.

and not just heisman. butkus, walter camp, and lott awards too. at least he won nagurski and has decent shot at bednarik.
Yeah, Walker got snubbed, but Anderson was the bigger snub.

Dude is the best player on Alabama AND the best defensive player in the country, both comfortably, and yet there is a defender and a Bama player in New York, neither of which is him.

To be honest my three man ballot would be #1 Anderson, #2 Walker, #3 Hutchinson.  I don't think any of the QBs deserve to be in the top three this year, but Young would be my 4th invite
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2021, 11:38:18 AM »
i like that order and i'd be fine with that. walker is definitely deserving to be there as well.

as for bryce, he's still having a ridiculous season. everyone talks about it's a weak year, but bryce's stats measure up really well with the last 3 heisman qb's, which were all heralded as no question best players.

stats comparison pre-bowls for bryce, burrow, kyler and baker. highlights are the leaders for each category.

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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2021, 11:40:34 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on December 06, 2021, 06:36:03 PM
I can hear Hutchinson in Stroud talking now:

Aiden: “ sorry I had to knock you on your ass so many times bro“

CJ: “ it’s all good dude- just doing your job but see you in '23 with a fatter contract 😋
FIFY
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2021, 11:41:39 AM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on December 07, 2021, 11:38:18 AM
i like that order and i'd be fine with that. walker is definitely deserving to be there as well.
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2021, 11:44:55 AM »
Quote from: ELA on December 07, 2021, 11:25:41 AM

To be honest my three man ballot would be #1 Anderson, #2 Walker, #3 Hutchinson.  I don't think any of the QBs deserve to be in the top three this year, but Young would be my 4th invite
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2021, 11:53:24 AM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on December 06, 2021, 07:20:24 PM
You see it after every NFL game. Guys who have just spent 3 hours trying to violently attack each other go and give handshakes, and hugs, and swap jerseys, and all sorts of other things. They're all part of the same tribe, and we ain't in it.
Ya we're the Hekawi Tribe from the'60's sit-com F-TROOP  as in where the "heck are we"
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2021, 12:00:06 PM »
Quote from: rolltidefan on December 07, 2021, 11:38:18 AM
i like that order and i'd be fine with that. walker is definitely deserving to be there as well.

as for bryce, he's still having a ridiculous season. everyone talks about it's a weak year, but bryce's stats measure up really well with the last 3 heisman qb's, which were all heralded as no question best players.

stats comparison pre-bowls for bryce, burrow, kyler and baker. highlights are the leaders for each category.


Not sure how you keep Stroud out of that invite list.

in only 11 games:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4432577/cj-stroud

more yards per game than Bryce, higher completion rate, higher passer rating and higher QBR.

I wouldn’t give him the Hypesman for sure, but he clearly is up there with the others you listed.

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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2021, 12:01:20 PM »
I think possibly all 3 Ohio State WRs have an argument to be there as well.  The problem is I'm not sure which one
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2021, 12:10:24 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 07, 2021, 12:01:20 PM
I think possibly all 3 Ohio State WRs have an argument to be there as well.  The problem is I'm not sure which one
Jackson Smith-Ngjiba is the best one. And he's going to be back in Columbus next year because he's only a true sophomore. Damnit.
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2021, 12:54:43 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on December 07, 2021, 12:00:06 PM
Not sure how you keep Stroud out of that invite list.

in only 11 games:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4432577/cj-stroud

more yards per game than Bryce, higher completion rate, higher passer rating and higher QBR.

I wouldn’t give him the Hypesman for sure, but he clearly is up there with the others you listed.
i like stroud too and i'm fine with him going to ny. at some point we got to cut the list though. i have no arguments against him going.
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2021, 01:06:30 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on December 07, 2021, 12:00:06 PM
Not sure how you keep Stroud out of that invite list.

in only 11 games:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4432577/cj-stroud

more yards per game than Bryce, higher completion rate, higher passer rating and higher QBR.

I wouldn’t give him the Hypesman for sure, but he clearly is up there with the others you listed.


just to see it, here is his stats vs those in the above table. also extrapolated it out to 13 games for him. green is categories he'd lead in extrapolated.

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