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WhiskeyM

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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2021, 01:32:53 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 07, 2021, 12:01:20 PM
I think possibly all 3 Ohio State WRs have an argument to be there as well.  The problem is I'm not sure which one
Yea it's a bit of bs none of them are finalists for the Biketnikoff either.
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Re: 2021 Heisman Trophy Finalists Announced
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2021, 01:36:27 PM »
Really,WTF,is it a participation trophy now?Won't matter come draft day and I guess their disappointment will disappear
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2021, 07:46:25 PM »
Gattis won the Broyles Award as the nation's top assistant.

Tell you what, Harbaugh's 1987 offense wasn't working.  Gattis came in pitching "speed and space", that was a bust.  This year he figured out how to merge the two, and it worked.  Very nice job, and some oddly sophisticated voting
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2021, 08:14:58 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 07, 2021, 07:46:25 PM
Gattis won the Broyles Award as the nation's top assistant.

Tell you what, Harbaugh's 1987 offense wasn't working.  Gattis came in pitching "speed and space", that was a bust.  This year he figured out how to merge the two, and it worked.  Very nice job, and some oddly sophisticated voting
I really hope Gattis stays and they put JJ McCarthy in as the starter next year. That offense could really take off next year. They'll be getting Ronnie Bell back and only C Andrew Vastardis has exhausted his eligibility. LT Ryan Hayes can comeback for his 5th year as he redshirted in 2018 and RT Andrew Steueber can get a 6th year because of COVID if he wants it. There is a chance they could get both their tackles back. Neither one of them are being mocked in NFL drafts. Starting RB Hassan Haskins is gone however, don't see him staying as his draft stock isn't going to improve by coming back.
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2021, 08:03:07 PM »
I was going to post something about how many Doak Walker Award winners were not even invited to the Heisman ceremony...except since Derrick Henry won the Heisman in 2015, the only RB to be invited was Bryce Love (who did win the Doak Walker) in 2017.  So as much as people talk about the defensive disrespect, the RB disrespect is greater.  3 defensive players have at least been invited since 2015, compared to one RB
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2021, 08:57:29 PM »
Quote from: ELA on December 09, 2021, 08:03:07 PM
I was going to post something about how many Doak Walker Award winners were not even invited to the Heisman ceremony...except since Derrick Henry won the Heisman in 2015, the only RB to be invited was Bryce Love (who did win the Doak Walker) in 2017.  So as much as people talk about the defensive disrespect, the RB disrespect is greater.  3 defensive players have at least been invited since 2015, compared to one RB

https://twitter.com/SimonGibbs26/status/1469121078320459782?s=20
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2021, 10:31:49 AM »
not getting him the ball hardly at all vs Youngstown State- a real stat-padding opportunity- and then being down 700-0 before half-time to Ohio State and not being able to get him the ball at all because the deficit was so big that you have to pass every down- cost him a trip to NYC. He still should've been there, imo. 

Michigan State is nowhere near 10-2 without that dude. He covered a lot of warts (pass defense), made that OL appear better than it was, and made life a hell of a lot easier on that QB when you can turn around and hand the ball off to a guy like that. MSU probably a 7-5 or 8-4 team without Walker. 

He should've 100% been in NYC, but it's all a moot point bc Bryce Young is winning that award no matter what after he shredded Georgia like that. 
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2021, 11:22:09 AM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 10, 2021, 10:31:49 AM
not getting him the ball hardly at all vs Youngstown State- a real stat-padding opportunity- and then being down 700-0 before half-time to Ohio State and not being able to get him the ball at all because the deficit was so big that you have to pass every down- cost him a trip to NYC. He still should've been there, imo.

Michigan State is nowhere near 10-2 without that dude. He covered a lot of warts (pass defense), made that OL appear better than it was, and made life a hell of a lot easier on that QB when you can turn around and hand the ball off to a guy like that. MSU probably a 7-5 or 8-4 team without Walker.

He should've 100% been in NYC, but it's all a moot point bc Bryce Young is winning that award no matter what after he shredded Georgia like that.
Yeah, but when a school like MSU has a chance for that, it's important.  It doesn't come along every year.  Pittsburgh barely cares about Pitt, and Kenny Pickett is all over thep lace this week
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2021, 11:35:34 AM »
Quote from: ELA on December 10, 2021, 11:22:09 AM
Yeah, but when a school like MSU has a chance for that, it's important.  It doesn't come along every year.  Pittsburgh barely cares about Pitt, and Kenny Pickett is all over thep lace this week
Oh I agree with you there. Kenny Pickett being there is a joke. He played in the weakest P5 conference there is and the dude lost to Western Michigan head to head.

Pickett belongs nowhere near there. If you're asking me, I think only 5 guys truly deserved to be there this year, that's it.

Bryce Young - top 2 QB in the nation, huge stats- playoff team. he'll win it.
CJ Stroud - top 2 QB in the nation, huge stats- top 10 team. he's got a great shot to win it next year.
KW3 - top RB in the nation, huge stats - willed his team to top 10 finish.
Aidan Hutchinson - top 2 defensive player in the nation, top defensive lineman in the nation- will be top 3 pick in 2022 draft. (no QB's worth high picks)
Will Anderson - top 2 defensive player in the nation, top LB in the nation. will be a top 5 pick in 2023 draft (there will be QB's worth high picks, namely Stroud & Young). 

I think those are the only 5 guys who should've been invited and deserved to be there.
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2021, 11:58:40 AM »
Aidan Hutchinson wins the B1G Silver Award. He becomes only the 3rd defensive player to win the award since 2000. The other defensive winners were DE Chase Young, Ohio State who won the award in 2019, and DE Brandon Graham, Michigan - who was a co-winner of the award in 2009 with Penn State QB Darryl Clark.
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2021, 12:00:59 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 10, 2021, 11:58:40 AM
Aidan Hutchinson wins the B1G Silver Award. He becomes only the 3rd defensive player to win the award since 2000. The other defensive winners were DE Chase Young, Ohio State who won the award in 2019, and DE Brandon Graham, Michigan - who was a co-winner of the award in 2009 with Penn State QB Darryl Clark.
Totally earned and deserved!
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2021, 12:10:29 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 10, 2021, 11:35:34 AM
Oh I agree with you there. Kenny Pickett being there is a joke. He played in the weakest P5 conference there is and the dude lost to Western Michigan head to head.

Pickett belongs nowhere near there. If you're asking me, I think only 5 guys truly deserved to be there this year, that's it.

i won't disagree too much, but pickett is very much NOT the reason they lost to w mich. dude had ~75% comp%, 380+ yds, and 6 tds. also had almost 60 yds on the ground, and he ain't a running qb. that loss is all on the defense.
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2021, 12:56:31 PM »
Harbaugh named AP Coach of the Year.
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Re: 2021 Awards Season
« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2021, 12:59:05 PM »
Can his ass!
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