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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1358 on: March 04, 2022, 04:19:04 PM »
Going to try to post an updated NCAA and NIT Bracketology each week, simply 2/3 SOR, and 1/3 KenPom.  Things should come into focus more as we go on.  Still have some outliers.

For auto-bid purposes, I'm assuming whoever is in first gets the autobid, but that the highest ranked KenPom team wins the tournament
Mini March 4 Update (with change from Monday morning)

Big Ten NCAA Teams
  • Wisconsin - 3 seed
  • Purdue - 3 seed (-1)
  • Illinois - 5 seed
  • Iowa - 5 seed (+2)
  • Ohio State - 6 seed
  • Michigan State - 8 seed (-1)
  • Michigan - 10 seed (+1)

NCAA changes
  • Creighton, Florida and Virginia Tech, replacing Wyoming, Xavier and Indiana as at larges (SMU, Memphis, Florida, VT in First 4)
  • Texas State replaces South Alabama as Sun Belt auto-bid, due to South Alabama losing (#14 seed)
  • Longwood replaces Gardner Webb as Big South auto-bid, due to passing Gardner Webb in KenPom (#16 seed)
  • Wright State replaces Oakland as Horizon auto-bid, due to Oakland losing (#16 seed, in First 4)

Big Ten NIT Teams
  • Indiana - 1 seed (down from NCAA)
  • Rutgers - 2 seed (+1)
  • Maryland - 6 seed (previously out)

Other Big Ten teams
  • Minnesota - #9 team out
  • Northwestern - #10 team out
  • Penn State - #11 team out
  • Nebraska - n/a

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1359 on: March 04, 2022, 08:48:27 PM »
Buckeyes have seven guys going through Senior Day on Sunday

  • E.J. Liddell
  • Justin Ahrens
  • Jamari Wheeler
  • Joey Brunk
  • Ced Russell
  • Jimmy Sotos
  • Kyle Young

Liddell and Ahrens still have eligibility, but this would signal they are definitely leaving. So the question mark for next season will be whether Malaki Branham goes pro and what Seth Towns and Justice Sueing want to do - they each still have eligibility. Buckeyes have five freshmen committed, plus redshirt freshman Kalen Etzler. So that will be six new faces on the team next year, and possibly some transfer options.


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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1360 on: March 05, 2022, 02:02:34 AM »
Updated projected final standings/BTT seeds heading into the final weekend:

  • 16-4/25-5 Wisconsin
  • 15-5/23-8 Illinois
  • 14-6/25-6 Purdue
  • 13-7/20-9 Ohio State
  • 12-8/18-12 Rutgers (wins tie over IA based on H2H, no game in Iowa City)
  • 12-8/22-9 Iowa
  • 11-9/20-11 Michigan State
  • 10-10/16-14 Michigan
  • 9-11/18-12 Indiana
  • 7-13/15-16 Maryland (beats NU in H2H2H, beats PSU based on better record against IL)
  • 7-13/12-16 Penn State (beats NU in H2H2H, loses to UMD based on record against IL)
  • 7-13/14-15 Northwestern (loses H2H2H tie with PSU and UMD, 1-3)
  • 4-16/13-16 Minnesota
  • 3-17/9-22 Nebraska

Thus, the match-ups in Indianapolis next week would be:
Wednesday, March 9, 2022:
  • #11 Penn State vs #14 Nebraska, 830 BTN
  • #12 Northwestern vs #13 Minnesota, 6 BTN
Thursday, March 10, 2022:
  • #5 Rutgers vs NU/MN, 230 BTN
  • #6 Iowa vs PSU/UNL, 9 BTN
  • #7 Michigan State vs #10 Maryland, 630 BTN
  • #8 Michigan vs #9 Indiana, noon BTN
Friday, March 11, 2022:
  • #1 Wisconsin vs M/IU, noon BTN
  • #2 Illinois vs MSU/UMD, 630 BTN
  • #3 Purdue vs IA/PSU/UNL, 9 BTN
  • #4 Ohio State vs RU/NU/MN, 230 BTN
Saturday, March 12, 2022:
  • UW/M/IU vs tOSU/RU/NU/MN, 1 CBS
  • IL/MSU/UMD vs PU/IA/PSU/UNL, 330 CBS
Sunday, March 13, 2022:
  • UW/M/IU/tOSU/RU/NU/MN vs IL/MSU/UMD/PU/IA/PSU/UNL, 330 CBS


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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1361 on: March 05, 2022, 02:07:12 AM »
Here is a quick look at what is left:

Here is the handy-dandy tie-breaker chart:



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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1362 on: March 05, 2022, 02:53:25 AM »
All teams in order of what seed they would be if the tournament started before this weekend's games along with all possibilities for them:

#1 15-4 Wisconsin:
The Badgers will be the outright Champion and #1 seed unless:

  • They lose at home to Nebraska, AND
  • Illinois beats Iowa.
If both of those things happen the Badgers and Illini will tie for 1/2 and the Illini win that tie. 

#2 14-5 Illinois:
Illinois would win a tie with UW or lose a tie with PU.  Thus, they will be the #2 seed unless:
  • They win over Iowa AND UW loses to UNL.  In this case Illinois will be the #1 seed, OR
  • They lose to Iowa AND PU wins over IU.  In this case Illinois will be the #3 seed. 

#3 13-6 Purdue:
Purdue wins all potential ties.  They will be #3 unless they beat IU AND Illinois loses to Iowa.  In that case they will be #2. 

#4 12-7 Iowa:
Iowa would win a tie with tOSU or lose a tie with PU so if they beat Illinois they are the #4 seed.  If they lose they'll finish 12-8.  That would be behind UW/IL/PU but it could be tied with tOSU (if they lose to M) and/or RU (if they beat PSU).  Iowa would win a tie with tOSU or lose a tie with RU and they would finish in the middle of a three-way tie with both.  Thus:
  • #4 seed if they win. 
  • #4 seed if they lose AND RU loses to PSU AND tOSU loses to M. 
  • #5 seed if they lose and EITHER tOSU or RU wins. 
  • #6 seed if they lose and BOTH tOSU and RU win.  

#5 12-7 Ohio State:
The Buckeyes lose all potential ties:
  • #4 seed if they beat M and IA loses to IL
  • #5 seed if they beat M and IA beats IL
  • #5 seed if they lose to M and RU loses to PSU
  • #6 seed if they lose to M and RU beats PSU

#6 11-8 Rutgers:
If Rutgers wins they'll finish 12-8.  That would be behind the top-3 but it would be tied with tOSU and/or Iowa if either the Buckeyes or Hawkeyes lose.  Rutgers would win either of those ties (and also the 3-way tie with both).  Thus, if Rutgers wins:
  • #4 seed if BOTH tOSU and IA lose
  • #5 seed if either tOSU or IA loses
  • #6 seed if BOTH tOSU and IA win
If Rutgers loses they'll finish 11-9.  That would be behind the top-5 and could be tied with MSU and/or M if either the Spartans or Wolverines win.  Rutgers wins any combination of ties with either or both of the M schools so if they lose they'll still get the #6 seed. 

#7 10-9 Michigan State:
If the season ended today the Spartans would win the tie with their instate rival based on having a better record against Wisconsin.  If they win they'll be the #7 seed no matter what RU and M do because MSU would lose to RU and win over M in any two or three way tie with either or both of them.  If MSU loses they'll finish 10-10 and behind the top-6.  That would be tied with M (if they lose tOSU) and/or IU (if they beat PU).  MSU would win any of those ties because they went 1-0 against IU and have a better best win than M.  Thus, if MSU loses to Maryland and finishes 10-10:
  • #7 seed if M loses at tOSU
  • #8 seed if M wins at tOSU

#8 10-9 Michigan:
The Wolverines would win a tie with IU but lose a tie with MSU so they will be the #8 seed unless:
  • They win in Columbus, AND
  • MSU loses at home to Maryland. 
If both of those things happened the Wolverines would be the #7 seed. 

#9 9-10 Indiana:
The Hoosiers have clinched the #9 seed.  They would catch either or both of the Michigan schools if they win at Purdue AND either M loses at tOSU or MSU loses vs UMD but IU loses any of those ties so they'd still be the #9 seed. 

#10 7-12 Maryland:
The Terps win all potential ties.  If they beat MSU they'll be the #10 seed and avoid playing on Wednesday.  However, if they lose and PSU wins at RU then UMD would be the #11 seed. 

#11 7-12 Penn State:
The Nittany Lions would lose a tie with UMD or win a tie with NU or finish in the middle of a 3-way tie with both.  Thus, they'll be the #11 seed unless they win (@RU) AND UMD loses (@MSU).  In that case PSU would get the #10 seed. 

#12 6-13 Northwestern:
The Wildcats have clinched the #12 seed.  They would catch either UMD or PSU or both if they win vs MN AND either UMD loses at MSU or PSU loses at RU but NU loses any of those ties so they'd still be the #12 seed. 

#13 4-15 Minnesota:
The Gophers will be the #13 seed unless they lose (@NU) AND UNL wins (@UW).  In that case they'd tie Nebraska and they'd lose that tie. 

#14 3-16 Nebraska:
The Cornhuskers will be the #14 seed unless they win (@UW) and MN loses (@NU).  In that case they'd tie Minnesota and they'd win that tie. 
« Last Edit: March 05, 2022, 03:00:04 AM by medinabuckeye1 »

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1363 on: March 05, 2022, 06:17:23 AM »
  • #11 Penn State vs #14 Nebraska, 830 BTN

GREAT FOOTBALL MATCHUP, IN THE '90'S.


  • #12 Northwestern vs #13 Minnesota, 6 BTN

I GOT NOTHING.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1364 on: March 05, 2022, 08:50:11 AM »
GREAT FOOTBALL MATCHUP, IN THE '80's & 90'S.
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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1365 on: March 05, 2022, 02:31:30 PM »
And another one tonight
More Hummel slurping Purdue.  Every damn time they are on ESPN

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1366 on: March 05, 2022, 04:15:53 PM »
South Alabama upset by bottom seeded Little Rock in the first round of the SBC tourney.  They were a predictive metrics darling.  KenPom picked them to win the SBC tourney from the #5 seed
And now #8 Louisiana upsets #1 Texas State.  Neither of the top two teams in KenPom even reach the semis

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1367 on: March 05, 2022, 04:16:29 PM »
Jesus. Just checked ESPN. Purdue by 2 points? 

Yep. I was right. Far less frustration doing my taxes than watching that shite. 

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1368 on: March 05, 2022, 06:04:53 PM »
Ignoring a tied game late between two ranked teams, including a fellow Blue blood like Kansas, to show Coach k take the court is the final Duke BS

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1369 on: March 05, 2022, 09:58:05 PM »
If you changed the jerseys on this OVC Championship, and said this was MSU-UM, I would 100% buy it.  They run their stuff way better than middling P5 teams now

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1370 on: March 05, 2022, 11:24:55 PM »

Liddell and Ahrens still have eligibility, but this would signal they are definitely leaving.



Would it?

I feel like a lot of the older guys who have not made up their minds walk. Brad Davison walked last year. 

(Well, I guess Liddell is a junior. That's a good indicator he'll leave or try his damndest to do so, unless the NBA just tells him "nah")

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1371 on: March 06, 2022, 06:11:27 AM »
Rat face!
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

 

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