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Topic: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1316 on: March 03, 2022, 11:15:40 AM »
They should not be getting a 1 seed.
I doubt they will, but they are in the discussion.  I'd have them as a 2 right now

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1317 on: March 03, 2022, 11:24:55 AM »
If they do end up in the Midwest as a 1, they will no doubt play in Greenville. 
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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1318 on: March 03, 2022, 12:22:04 PM »
Honestly, I still find it difficult to figure out if Gard is the right coach for the program. Right now I think he is, but it's easy to feel that way when things are going well. I remember when he took over, I thought he rotated players too frequently, preventing them from getting into rhythm, and even pulling players who hadn't been on long and who were hot. But it got immediate results, and he rescued that season from Bo's retirement. And he's adjusted his approach to substitutions.

In year two of Gard, the Badgers were good, but not great, and it still felt a bit like the end of the Bo era. And the disappointing third year under Gard seemed to verify that--a poor performance once most of Bo's players were gone. Year four was an improvement, but not a big one--and a first-round exit in the tourney was disappointing--particularly when I took my son to that game.

But in year 5, they rebounded, despite low expectations, but there was also a lot of drama around that team, with Micah Potter's eligibility and Kobe King leaving mid-season. They tied for the conference title, but MSU was pretty clearly a better team. Then the tournament was cancelled just when things were starting to look pretty good.

Then last year was again pretty meh--basically finishing about where people thought a decent, but not especially good group of players should finish. And more drama--probably fairly placed primarily on Alando Tucker. What an odd thing.

So now we have this team exceeding expectations by more than a little. What to expect next season? The Badgers will lose their best player, and he won't be easily replaced, even if Chucky Hepburn becomes the star that I think he will be. And what about drama? There's been a fair amount of it under Gard. Is that just bad luck, or is that the way he rolls? And if so, maybe it doesn't matter if the teams flip back and forth between meeting expectations and exceeding them. But that feels a little like giving up, unless the expectations start higher.

But for this season, I'm just enjoying.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1319 on: March 03, 2022, 12:42:18 PM »
I do think Gard is the right guy for the program.

As for next year, it will be interesting for sure. Davison will also be a HUGE loss for the team.

You have to  wonder if Patrick Baldwin would be interested in coming to Madison, from Milwaukee, who just whacked his father.
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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1320 on: March 03, 2022, 12:48:41 PM »
You have to  wonder if Patrick Baldwin would be interested in coming to Madison, from Milwaukee, who just whacked his father.
He's going pro, and was terrible at Milwaukee this year.  I wouldn't touch him

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1321 on: March 03, 2022, 12:54:18 PM »
He's been injured for most of the season. He's not ready for the NBA yet. Be lucky to go in round 2.
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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1322 on: March 03, 2022, 01:01:42 PM »
From The Athletic mock draft, which projected him 17th.

Forgive me for being a broken record, but this is another pure wild card. Patrick Baldwin Jr. is all over the map when you talk to scouts. Some are willing to entirely overlook what has been an unmitigated disaster of a freshman season at Milwaukee and taking him around the end of the lottery. Others are not. Right now, Baldwin is averaging 12 points and six rebounds while shooting 34 percent from the field and 26 percent from 3 in the Horizon League. That is bad. But a lot of it can be chalked up to circumstance, if you want to make that case. He’s a non-shot creator who ends up having to do too much on offense far too regularly. He’d be much better off at a place like Duke where he could have shots created for him and could use those pristine shooting mechanics to hit open looks. Indeed, it’s not an exaggeration to say he has not gotten many clean opportunities this season. Per Synergy, Baldwin has taken just seven uncontested 3-pointers this season in 11 games, an impossibly low number that exemplifies how disastrous the team’s guards have been. The team has a bottom-20 offense in the country, a number that is bad for a mid-major team with a five-star, McDonald’s All-American forward who should theoretically be able to shoot the lights out. Scouts also have been unimpressed with his overall effort level. It’s not an exaggeration to say Baldwin would have one of the worst profiles in terms of production for competition level of any player selected in the first round in the last decade. But there are plenty of scouts who are still interested and see the same guy who was a consensus top-five recruit in the country. I’ll be completely honest: I have no idea what direction this will go.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1323 on: March 03, 2022, 01:14:59 PM »
Look at the Milwaukee roster.

2021-22 Men's Basketball Roster - Milwaukee Athletics (mkepanthers.com)
2021-22 Men's Basketball Roster - Milwaukee Athletics (mkepanthers.com)
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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1324 on: March 03, 2022, 01:35:08 PM »
I remember in college we debated how good LeBron could make Akron.  Obviously this kid wasn't LeBron, but the Horizon is not the MAC either

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1325 on: March 03, 2022, 05:34:00 PM »
No Young, No Key, No Hope for the Buckeyes tonight

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1326 on: March 03, 2022, 06:44:52 PM »
That's the sandbagging spirit!

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1327 on: March 03, 2022, 06:47:10 PM »
That's the sandbagging spirit!
Doing what I can to will Joey Brunk into 20 and 10

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1328 on: March 03, 2022, 07:05:43 PM »
Doing what I can to will Joey Brunk into 20 and 10
No I get and respect it.

I'm pretty sure MSU has only played well in one road game in Big Ten play, when naturally they beat the conference champ convincingly 

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1329 on: March 03, 2022, 07:06:26 PM »
Like I said.  This team is straight trash on the road

 

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