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ELA

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1064 on: February 21, 2022, 04:02:43 PM »
Sure, but you grab him, an up-and-coming assistant with a wink wink promise, and away you go.
Like the one he had when he left?  Michigan had basically become Iowa, and then Yaklich came in, fixed the defense, and Beilein was always an offensive genius.  The result was a Big Ten title and national title appearance.  The next year I honestly think they were better, but they ran into an elite MSU team three times, and got matched up with an underseeded Texas Tech in the Sweet 16.

You bring that duo back, with Yaklich as coach in waiting, that scares the hell out of me more than a guy who is just a recruiter, and needs a fired A10 coach to tell him what to do in game, while repeatedly embarrassing himself and his employer.  I've reached a point where anyone who decides to play for this clown has a large enough character flaw that they do not scare me one bit.  He has 4 McDonald's All-Americans on his current team that is right on the NCAA bubble.  He has so much more NBA talent than every other big 10 school, the two not even be solidly in the tournament, let alone in the Big Ten title discussion, is embarrassing.

He ab serves to be fired, as anyone who punches someone in their job does, but I hope he isn't, because he is simultaneously not a threat, while being a complete embarrassment to the university

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1065 on: February 21, 2022, 04:28:00 PM »
Instead of punching Gard for taking a timeout, he should have punched Chris Webber.
that's gold.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1066 on: February 21, 2022, 04:29:57 PM »
pretty sure they have to fire Howard. not a good look when your head coach is punching people on the court during a game.

be a different story if he was like out to dinner with his wife and someone got out of line and he socked them and some jerk off with a camera phone recorded it and uploaded it to twitter or facebook.

i don't see how any coach could survive this.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1067 on: February 21, 2022, 04:43:10 PM »
pretty sure they have to fire Howard. not a good look when your head coach is punching people on the court during a game.

be a different story if he was like out to dinner with his wife and someone got out of line and he socked them and some jerk off with a camera phone recorded it and uploaded it to twitter or facebook.

i don't see how any coach could survive this.
And it's not like this puts Michigan in a bad spot.  You literally have the best coach in school history sitting out there, still living in Ann Arbor, who you could actually hire.  As an MSU fan, I would love for UM to keep a trash coach who keeps embarrassing the school on the payroll.  You bring back Beilein, with Yaklich in coach in waiting?  No thanks.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1068 on: February 21, 2022, 05:01:14 PM »
He is.  It's been proven over and over.  Hopefully he's not near the court when they name it after Beilein in a few years
Save the POS talk for people like Larry Nasser. Loose cannon? Sure. Childlike response? Sure. Should be setting a better example? Absolutely. Let’s keep the POS title humans that are truly just that, not guys that do a piss poor job of control emotions when they’re passionate about a sport. No excuse for his actions, but calling him a POS sounds like bitter apples.

secondly, there’s always been conflicting stories about the incident of the Fab Five and the butt rub incident. Some say it was Jalen, not Howard, which makes more sense.  Also, most accounts have the State crowd using some great racial language. So when you’re using that example to solidify your POS characterization, maybe consider that in the response from a couple 20 year old kids. Obviously doesn’t excuse yesterday.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1069 on: February 21, 2022, 06:07:17 PM »
Mario you punch a much smaller man who was no threat that could lead to a chain reaction.I really don't know squat about Howard but if that was Rodman,Mahorn,Moses Malone or some of the NBA thumpers he somehow would have found restraint or his dick 3 rows up
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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1070 on: February 21, 2022, 06:15:42 PM »
Ok.  I admit it’s me.   Not “you”.  

I am a 60 year old dude who can’t believe: 

The Head Basketball Coach at Prestigious University of Michigan struck an opposing coach in the face. And in the press conference following, not only did he not apologize, when I asked about his players getting into a fight his comment was “I’m glad they have my back”.  

And there is even a question about him being fired?  The world is a different place than where I grew up with and I can’t deny I don’t really care for that.
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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1071 on: February 21, 2022, 06:28:02 PM »
if Woody Hayes (a far more established, entrenched, winning, and legendary coach) can get fired for something similar- but probably a little bit worse since it was a player he hit- back in a day when men actually had balls and people were rougher and tougher and not soft sensitive little pussies that are offended by everything like they are now- then I don't see what chance Howard has of keeping his job in this "i'm a woke pussy everything offends me" culture we live in right now.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1073 on: February 21, 2022, 06:54:11 PM »
5 game suspension apparently.  Eh, whatever.  I would have canned him before he got on the plane. Getting tossed for going after Turgeon last year would have been his one freebie with me. For different reasons I’m not shocked though.  As someone else said, his lack of contrition in the press conference when he was out of the heat of the moment was troubling.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1074 on: February 21, 2022, 07:07:23 PM »
Save the POS talk for people like Larry Nasser. Loose cannon? Sure. Childlike response? Sure. Should be setting a better example? Absolutely. Let’s keep the POS title humans that are truly just that, not guys that do a piss poor job of control emotions when they’re passionate about a sport. No excuse for his actions, but calling him a POS sounds like bitter apples.

secondly, there’s always been conflicting stories about the incident of the Fab Five and the butt rub incident. Some say it was Jalen, not Howard, which makes more sense.  Also, most accounts have the State crowd using some great racial language. So when you’re using that example to solidify your POS characterization, maybe consider that in the response from a couple 20 year old kids. Obviously doesn’t excuse yesterday.
I have MUCH worse words for Larry Nassar and his enablers.

But a head basketball coach who had a questionable reputation as a player, and has now tried to fight multiple coaches?  That's a POS.  And like I said, all respect to John Beilein, who I think is the best Xs and Os coach in my lifetime of basketball.  Even Tommy Amaker was a class act, and a good recruiter, guys just never got better under him.  I hope Michigan keeps Howard, he is a great recruiter, and a shit coach, and an embarrassment to the university.  I wonder how many UM professors have told a fellow professor he would "f****** kill him" and punched another one in the face and kept his job?  They just fired a President for less.  If he had followed Amaker, I'd see an argument for allowing middling success after no success to keep him.  But he has done so much less than his predecessor on the court, while being an absolute clown.  Hell, just on the court he has received two technicals for interfering with the on court play.  He's not a professional

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1075 on: February 21, 2022, 07:11:15 PM »
if Woody Hayes (a far more established, entrenched, winning, and legendary coach) can get fired for something similar- but probably a little bit worse since it was a player he hit- back in a day when men actually had balls and people were rougher and tougher and not soft sensitive little pussies that are offended by everything like they are now- then I don't see what chance Howard has of keeping his job in this "i'm a woke pussy everything offends me" culture we live in right now.
I was thinking of this comparison as well.

Woody Hayes coached Ohio State football for 28 years, won multiple NC's, a slew of league titles, etc. He punched a kid in the Gator Bowl and was fired the next day.

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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1076 on: February 21, 2022, 07:21:41 PM »
Plus it was a younger, much bigger guy who had pads on. 
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Re: 2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread
« Reply #1077 on: February 21, 2022, 07:26:04 PM »
Lawyers the next time Michigan wants to fire someone for cause


 

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