2021-2022 B1G Basketball thread

[medinabuckeye1]

The performance problem wasn't from the bubble teams, which is unfortunate from the narrative perspective

Yep, from the perspective or reasonable expectations the lower seeds did great really.  It was the upper seeds that didn't.  

The following is based on past performance for the seed in question:

We had two #3 seeds, Purdue and Wisconsin:

• #3's win their opener 85.14% of the time and both of ours won, so far so good.  
• #3's make the S16 52.03% of the time and one of ours did, so far so good.  
• #3's make the E8 25% of the time and neither of ours did.  This wouldn't be so bad if Purdue had lost to #2 Kentucky but they didn't.  Instead Purdue became the only team in NCAA Tournament history to lose a second-weekend game to a bottom-4 seed.  

We had one #4 seed, Illinois:

• #4's win their opener 79.05% of the time and ours did, so far so good.  
• #4's make the S16 47.30% of the time and ours didn't.  That isn't too bad especially with the loss being to a probably underseeded #5 Houston.  

we had one #5 seed, Iowa:

• #5's win their opener 64.19% of the time and ours lost.  

We had two #7 seeds, Ohio State and Michigan State:

• #7's win their opener 60.81% of the time and both of ours did, so far so good.  
• #7's make the S16 18.92% of the time and neither of ours did.  That isn't too bad especially with both losses being to #2 seeds who made the F4.  

We had 1.5 #11 seeds, Michigan (full) and Rutgers (half):

• Rutgers lost their play-in which is a 50/50 proposition so that isn't too bad.  
• #11 seeds win their opener 38.51% of the time and one of ours did, so far so good.  
• #11 seeds make the S16 17.57% of the time and one of ours did, so far so good.  
• #11's make the E8 6.08% of the time and ours didn't.  That is not bad at all especially considering the loss was to a #2 seed who made the F4.  

We had 1/2 of a #12 seed, Indiana:

• Indiana won their play-in which is a 50/50 proposition, so far so good.  
• #12 seeds win their opener 35.81% of the time and ours lost.  That isn't too bad.  

Our top-4 teams (#3 UW, #3 PU, #4 IL, #5 IA) *SHOULD* (based on past performance of seed) have generated:

• 3.13 teams in the R32, they got 3.  Not too bad.  
• 1.85 teams in the S16, they got 1.  Not good.  
• 0.72 teams in the E8, they got 0.  Not good.  
• 0.36 teams in the F4, they got 0.  Not good but not too bad, it rounds to zero, wouldn't be so bad with better losses.  

Our bottom-5 teams (#7 MSU, #7 tOSU, #11 Michigan, #11 Indiana, #12 Rutgers) *SHOULD* (based on past performance of seed) have generated:

• 1.97 teams in the R32, they got 2, so far so good.  
• 0.72 teams in the S16, they got 0.  Not good.  
• 0.23 teams in the E8, not good but not too bad, it rounds to zero.  

[bayareabadger]

In the 3 banner era (Conference title, Conference tourney title, FF/NC), so going back to 1998, this Purdue team has to be the highest rated to not get one right?

Did that Wisconsin team that was #1 late in the year, but was stuck behind Greg Oden, and then got upset in the opening weekend win the BTT?  Otherwise that might be the answer

That Wisconsin team finished 6th in the AP poll. Purdue was 10th.

That UW team was interesting. They were kinda ragged down the last half of the conference season. IU snapped a long winning streak. Then they won five in a row against the soft underbelly of the league.

MSU kinda slapped them in EL, then they lost by a hair at OSU (though it took a lot of luck to be that close late). It took about everything to beat MSU on Senior Day, and after a BTT shellacking vs OSU, UW played awful against a 16 seed before playing not super vs UNLV, which banged home 10 3s on 20 tries.

[betarhoalphadelta]

My Purdue fandom is broken after that. 

[Abba]

My Purdue fandom is broken after that.

Don't worry, football is around the corner.

[grillrat]

Don't worry, football is around the corner.

That's actually kinda funny, because it was an ongoing joke a decade-or-so ago that Purdue could never have both a successful football and basketball season in the same year.  As soon as the final second ticked off on the Tennessee Music City Bowl, I knew things were going downhill for Painter's squad.

[ELA]

That's actually kinda funny, because it was an ongoing joke a decade-or-so ago that Purdue could never have both a successful football and basketball season in the same year.  As soon as the final second ticked off on the Tennessee Music City Bowl, I knew things were going downhill for Painter's squad.

Wasn't the Drew Brees Rose Bowl year the same year Gene Keady just had to beat an 8 seed Wisconsin to get to his only Final 4?

[ELA]

That Wisconsin team finished 6th in the AP poll. Purdue was 10th.

That UW team was interesting. They were kinda ragged down the last half of the conference season. IU snapped a long winning streak. Then they won five in a row against the soft underbelly of the league.

MSU kinda slapped them in EL, then they lost by a hair at OSU (though it took a lot of luck to be that close late). It took about everything to beat MSU on Senior Day, and after a BTT shellacking vs OSU, UW played awful against a 16 seed before playing not super vs UNLV, which banged home 10 3s on 20 tries.

I also think that 2006 through 2008 (?) was as weak a period as we've seen in college basketball. Florida had an all-time team, which helped covers some things up, just like Miami football did in the 2001 football season.

[medinabuckeye1]

I also think that 2006 through 2008 (?) was as weak a period as we've seen in college basketball. Florida had an all-time team, which helped covers some things up, just like Miami football did in the 2001 football season.

That just sucked for tOSU. That Oden team was great and got to the CG but banged into the only defending champs in a generation to bring back all their starters.

[ELA]

Xavier went from top 5 seed to the NIT, thanks to a massive collapse...and the won the NIT.

The NIT became a very fun tournament, once they added in the regular season low major auto bids, and seeded the bracket, rather than the old premade TV matchups.  But the transfer portal has a little bit ruined it. It went from a nice place for young high major teams who just missed the tournament, to get a nice taste of postseason basketball, to just a meaningless mashup of teams who will both lose and gain a ton of players through the portal

[847badgerfan]

Johnny Davis to the NBA. It's now official.

[medinabuckeye1]

UNC fans have to love being Coach K's last loss.

[medinabuckeye1]

In the 36 Tournaments since expansion so far (not counting 2022 to be finished tonight or 2020 cancelled due to COVID) the Champions have been:

• 23 #1 seeds
• 5 #2 seeds
• 4 #3 seeds
• 1 #4 seed
• 0 #5 seeds
• 1 #6 seed
• 1 #7 seed
• 1 #8 seed
• 0 #9-16 seeds

Carolina is the fourth #8 seed to make the CG, the previous three went 1-2.  

Kansas is the 38th #1 seed to make the CG, the previous 37 went 23-14.  

[OrangeAfroMan]

This shit is on TBS?  

[FearlessF]

and TNT and TruTV

but, NOT CBS

great