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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7938 on: September 01, 2020, 12:26:59 PM »
I'm guessing the Germans compare very well with British, French, and Italian car makers
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7939 on: September 01, 2020, 12:41:09 PM »
I'm guessing the Germans compare very well with British, French, and Italian car makers
A lot depends on where you look. Via the googles, utee and I both came across this:

https://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

Looking at it a little more closely, they appear to be an aftermarket warranty company from the UK. 

In the reliability rankings, the French (Renault/Citroen) weren't that bad, while some of the UK and Italians didn't show very well. Jag, Bentley, Maserati were all terrible.

They also have an average cost of repair ranking...

https://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer/AvgRep

Again the Germans were not very good. 

These rankings are pretty in line with what I've believed for a long time:

  • American cars don't cost all that much, break a moderate amount of time, but don't cost a ton to repair.
  • Japanese cars cost a little more, rarely break, and repair costs are moderate.
  • German cars cost a ton, break all the time, and cost an arm and a leg to repair. 



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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7940 on: September 01, 2020, 12:47:17 PM »
Funny thing is the move happened over the course of the last two years, and there are a lot of people working from home right now in Virginia wondering why they had to uproot their families and move to Virginia just so they could work from home.
COL is still a lot cheaper working from home in a much bigger space so there's that
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7941 on: September 01, 2020, 12:47:50 PM »
guess I'll just keep driving my Chevys
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7942 on: September 01, 2020, 12:52:25 PM »
Hopefully not the Silverado,someone on this board and good friends son had one.Literally in 6 months it was in the shop for like 4 of those.Chevy took it back and he got a Tahoe or sumsuch
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7943 on: September 01, 2020, 12:54:27 PM »
guess I'll just keep driving my Chevys
I loved my Chevy Blazer that I had from 1995-2007.  Only major issue on it was a transmission rebuild at 100K, but that was with a lot of towing.  When I rebuilt it, I had them install a transmission cooler and it went almost another 100K with no issues before I traded it in for my...

Chevy Tahoe that I had from 2007-2020.  I loved it too, put 189K on it with no major issues either.

The only real POS car I've had (not counting 80s models) was my wife's 2003 Toyota.  That was one seriously unreliable piece of crap.  I hated it. I know they good good marks in reliability, but I'll never buy a Toyota again because of that car.

My wife's previous car, a 92 Honda Accord, on the other hand-- is the best car I've ever owned.  Just zero issues.  Ever.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7944 on: September 01, 2020, 01:02:36 PM »
Hopefully not the Silverado,someone on this board and good friends son had one.Literally in 6 months it was in the shop for like 4 of those.Chevy took it back and he got a Tahoe or sumsuch
yup, had many Silverados

the 2002 2500HD with the 6.0 liter was a great truck



the current 2015 1500 with 5.3 is doing well, nearly 80K miles, not one issue in 5 years.  Well, be 5 years a week from Saturday.



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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7945 on: September 01, 2020, 01:03:52 PM »
Usually there's beef ribs and a Bud in each hand with these shots.Those Silverados were 2019 Models - electrical/computer/tech problems
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7946 on: September 01, 2020, 01:11:50 PM »
I can't afford anything that new

this old 98 I bought with 125K on it.  Ran it up to 175K and sold it to a lady in town, still going over 200K

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7947 on: September 01, 2020, 01:12:09 PM »
how bout those $150 oil changes
8 quarts will do that to you. But, they are every 10K miles on a Benz, so there.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7948 on: September 01, 2020, 01:12:31 PM »
Was 2019 the new model year for Silverado, or is 2020 the new model year?  I know it's just recently been completely redone.


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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7949 on: September 01, 2020, 01:17:10 PM »
The only real POS car I've had (not counting 80s models) was my wife's 2003 Toyota.  That was one seriously unreliable piece of crap.  I hated it. I know they good good marks in reliability, but I'll never buy a Toyota again because of that car.
IIRC, wasn't it you that had the Toyota Camry Solara, the convertible? 

I feel like I heard bad things about the Solara...

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7950 on: September 01, 2020, 01:39:29 PM »
Being the car NUT that I am and owning three now and having on as many at five at one time, I have definitely not been a brand “whore“

If you know how to shop just about all of the American and German car makers make some quality product. There is a little bit of you get what you pay for.

For years and years the American car companies could not build a machine that was as pleasurable to drive and put together as the Germans. That gap has closed and almost dissipated completely at this juncture.

This is especially true with the performance division of the American auto makers. For example the SRT division of Chrysler, the V division of Cadillac, and the same with Ford and Chevrolet.

In fact as an over the top car enthusiast- I share the widely viewed opinion that some of the American performance cars may be better value in the “bang for the buck “ measurement 

I have owned five SRT vehicles, several V versions of the Cadillac sports performance sedans, the Ford ST version, as well as several M BMWs and several Audi RS versions

The American cars are very close but substantially less expensive to purchase.

But to 847s point, I get maintenance on my Audi RS5 done every 10,000 miles and I incorporated the cost into the purchase at a very reasonable price.

I wouldn’t kick any of them out of my driveway for eating crackers LOL
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #7951 on: September 01, 2020, 01:42:02 PM »
IIRC, wasn't it you that had the Toyota Camry Solara, the convertible?

I feel like I heard bad things about the Solara...

Yup.  It was the Camry Solara convertible (they made a coupe version as well).

It was a really pretty car, and had all the bells and whistles.  But a total lemon. Its electrical issues were so bad that it literally just shut off and left my wife stranded on so many occasions I can't even count them.  We went through 4 or 5 batteries and 3 or 4 alternators, and various other electrical components.  Ultimately I suspect it was a grounding issue, but nobody was ever able to figure it out.  In fact it almost didn't start the day we traded it in for my wife's new Jeep.  Which in 4 months has already proven to be FAR more reliable than that POS Toyota.  And if your vehicle isn't even as reliable as a JEEP, well... 

My opinion is, if you're going to pride yourself on quality, then it kind of needs to apply to ALL the cars you offer, not just the family sedans or trucks.  Which brings up another thing with Toyota-- the Tacoma is rock solid, everybody knows that. It's the truck most favored by Australian bush-people, and terrorists, for being pretty much indestructible. But the Tundra, well... my next door neighbor is on his second one in about 5 years, and it's already having all sorts of problems.  And yet for some reason he's still super-loyal and is already thinking about his next Tundra.  

People do weird stuff.

 

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