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utee94

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #840 on: March 13, 2020, 09:47:42 AM »
"Flatten the curve."

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The total area under those two curves is represented as being the same, in other words the same % of the population will become infected.  But the peak is much lower, and ideally, below the threshold of maximum capacity for treatment by all of the medial facilities in the region.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #841 on: March 13, 2020, 09:53:21 AM »
When the Mrs. and I were in Italy over the Christmas break, the places we we're at were full of Chinese tourists. 

K12 schools in Minnesota haven't closed yet, but everyone involved in my wife's circles have been instructed to start drawing up plans for online curriculum delivery. I suspect that next week's state boys basketball tournament will be cancelled, and this weekend's girls basketball tournament has been forced behind closed doors. 

I'm in the "move aggressively now" camp, because if we're waiting until it's obvious to close schools, it's too late. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #842 on: March 13, 2020, 09:56:38 AM »
When the Mrs. and I were in Italy over the Christmas break, the places we we're at were full of Chinese tourists.

K12 schools in Minnesota haven't closed yet, but everyone involved in my wife's circles have been instructed to start drawing up plans for online curriculum delivery. I suspect that next week's state boys basketball tournament will be cancelled, and this weekend's girls basketball tournament has been forced behind closed doors.

I'm in the "move aggressively now" camp, because if we're waiting until it's obvious to close schools, it's too late.
This is the problem. I truly believe this.

Oh, and don't get in the way of one of their "convoy" people trains. They'll run your ass over and not be sorry.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #843 on: March 13, 2020, 10:12:28 AM »
People die in car crashes, so let's ignore the virus.
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Perfect.

Yes that is exactly what I said. I know you are not stupid, so I guess you choose to just not read what I said.

I have never said ignore the virus, I have said we are over reacting to the danger that it poses due to the hysteria being presented by others.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #844 on: March 13, 2020, 10:20:27 AM »
My daughter woke up with a fever so I guess we are in quarantine mode now.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #845 on: March 13, 2020, 10:21:23 AM »
This is the problem. I truly believe this.

Oh, and don't get in the way of one of their "convoy" people trains. They'll run your ass over and not be sorry.
Totally different expectations of courtesy, and proximity, in many Asian nations.  It's just cultural.

First time I noticed it was during a high school trip to Hawaii.  At the time, it was mostly Japanese tourists (they practically owned the island of Oahu in the 80s/early 90s), although now Chinese tourists are also prevalent there.  The major difference was in waiting for access to confined spaces.  For them, waiting for an elevator, they push up against one another and past each other, in an effort to get to the front.  Then, the moment the elevator doors open, nobody is waiting for the folks on the elevator to get off first, it's just a complete free-for-all with people trying to get off, while being pushed and shoved around by people trying to get on.  In American and most Western cultures, that's rude behavior.  For them, it's simple, daily life.

For those who haven't been to Asia in general or China specifically, and especially into the factories which are VAST-- larger than many American cities by themselves-- you really don't have any way to understand just exactly how cramped and close, people there live.  It's mind-boggling.  In factories like Foxconn they "hot-bunk" which means they share beds/living quarters. People on day shift live and sleep in those bunkbed quarters at night, and people on night shift live and sleep in those bunkbed quarters during the day.  And really, most places run 3 shifts, so it's just constantly being packed into close quarters with other humans, at all times of day and night.

Just pointing out some other cultural and physical differences between places where this virus originated, and our own country.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #846 on: March 13, 2020, 10:21:52 AM »
The problem is that it's not THAT irrational.

Yes, mortality rates for anyone who is not old or with underlying medical conditions are very low. I'm not worried about what would happen if I catch COVID-19.

But so far everything shows that this is much more transmissable than the flu. ESPECIALLY if you don't take these sort of precautions. It has a longer incubation period, and you may be asymptomatic for 24-48 hours [or more] while still being contagious.

So I look at it this way... Sunday night we're planning to do our St Patrick's Day celebration with the kids and my wife's dad and step-mom. They're not "old", at only 65. But he has Szogren's Syndrome (an autoimmune disease) so is more susceptible to and at higher risk for these things.

How would I feel if I'd gone to a conference tournament, came home, was completely asymptomatic, and then found out that I'd infected him and he was hospitalized or [god forbid] died?

These containment procedures are there for a reason.

As I've said, I'm not sure if they're going too far or not. But at least I understand why they're doing it.
I have told my 80 year mother to stay at home because she has a compromised immune system. I am not saying don't take reasonable precaution, I am of the opinion based on what I have seen of the statistics that cancelling the NCAA tournament, suspending sport season, etc. are being overly cautious.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #847 on: March 13, 2020, 10:34:39 AM »
As I mentioned when I said we almost got quarantined, my wife is an office manager for a small internal medicine practice.

They've already said that no sick patients will be allowed in the office. When doing all "reminder" calls for patients they're asking whether there are any symptoms of sickness and if so the patients are to stay home (if not severe) and go to urgent care (if severe), but are not being seen in the office. 

They're talking about keeping the office physically closed while this blows over and moving to a tele-med operation. One of the doctors also works in the hospital part of the week and I think she's worried that not only might she be affected, but she could possibly put the rest of the staff in danger, so they're trying to take this pretty seriously. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #848 on: March 13, 2020, 10:40:23 AM »
This is the problem. I truly believe this.

Oh, and don't get in the way of one of their "convoy" people trains. They'll run your ass over and not be sorry.
Totally different expectations of courtesy, and proximity, in many Asian nations.  It's just cultural.

First time I noticed it was during a high school trip to Hawaii.  At the time, it was mostly Japanese tourists (they practically owned the island of Oahu in the 80s/early 90s), although now Chinese tourists are also prevalent there.  The major difference was in waiting for access to confined spaces.  For them, waiting for an elevator, they push up against one another and past each other, in an effort to get to the front.  Then, the moment the elevator doors open, nobody is waiting for the folks on the elevator to get off first, it's just a complete free-for-all with people trying to get off, while being pushed and shoved around by people trying to get on.  In American and most Western cultures, that's rude behavior.  For them, it's simple, daily life.
Yeah, it's cultural. My wife's first experience with this was 2 years ago in France. At Versailles she had a little Chinese lady crowding and pushing her all along the tour and was getting EXTREMELY annoyed by it, and then of course there's the melee that occurs trying to get anywhere near the Mona Lisa at the Louvre. 

Having traveled and been more accustomed to that I almost didn't notice, but when I realized how stabby she was getting, I had to mention to her that the lady wasn't doing anything considered "rude" in Chinese culture--it's just different. I don't think it made her any happier, but we avoided an international incident lol ;-) 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #849 on: March 13, 2020, 10:59:39 AM »
The Chinese guy seated next to us at dinner after Christmas Eve Mass only stopped sucking on his vape pen long enough to smoke 3 cigarettes. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #850 on: March 13, 2020, 11:00:00 AM »
So the winery event next weekend was canceled, as well as another event we'd planned in Paso, so we've canceled our hotel and won't be traveling. 

We had plans to go to the theater last night, and my wife was just not feeling it. So after sitting on hold with the theater trying to exchange tickets for ~$5 minutes, I gave up and figured if we lost the ticket money I'd just deal with it. About an hour later we got a notification that all performances (including ours) were canceled. 

So far my autistic son who is in a public school program hasn't had any change to the school routine as there has been no official guidance here in OC to close schools. But my other two kids, who are in a charter school, will now be out of school starting Monday through the end of what would be their normal Spring Break, and return April 15. So 4 weeks off. Since they're a charter, they're already saying they will likely extend the school year a few weeks in June to make up the time. 

But as they say, this is a fast-moving situation, so who knows what else may change in the next 24...

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #851 on: March 13, 2020, 11:00:17 AM »
My daughter woke up with a fever so I guess we are in quarantine mode now.
Good luck, my friend.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #852 on: March 13, 2020, 11:10:26 AM »
most possibly no correlation but..........

Italy's national health service known as Servizio Sanitario Nazionale and of course China's health service run by the governments

I'd guess their issues were more about being blindsided than anything
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #853 on: March 13, 2020, 11:16:50 AM »
Oh and bwar, this is the line at my closest Costco this morning, at 9:30 AM, before they opened at 10.  The door is way up there in front.  This is the back of the line. I wasn't there and didn't take the picture, thankk goodness.  You mentioned that y'all had your Costco panic buy weeks ago, and actually so did we.  But this is more.


 

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