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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #812 on: March 12, 2020, 06:18:47 PM »
I imagine we have people here all over the political spectrum (I hope so).  However, this isn't the place to reveal that IMHO.

We had years ago some "issues" as a result of political dissension superceding discussion about, well great running backs and it got out of hand, leading to the current set of rules.

If you despise Trump or admire Trump, great, fine with me, but keep it off these pages.  We have a very entertaining Area 51 for such things.
I apology, though I must say I think only times I have every brought up politics on this forum has been in response to OAM's political statements. I will refrain in the future. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #813 on: March 12, 2020, 06:21:59 PM »
Personally I think the press, the president, the CDC, the NCAA, the Pro sports leaque, etc. are all overreacting to this.

Personally, I am quite peeved that I am losing my vacation because of all this, not because I am afraid of getting sick, but because I can't trust that when I leave the country I am going to be able to get back into the country because of all the hysteria. It sucks I am going to lose out because of other people's irrational (and yes I think it is irrational unless you are very old and/or already have an underlying condition) fears.
The problem is that it's not THAT irrational.

Yes, mortality rates for anyone who is not old or with underlying medical conditions are very low. I'm not worried about what would happen if I catch COVID-19. 

But so far everything shows that this is much more transmissable than the flu. ESPECIALLY if you don't take these sort of precautions. It has a longer incubation period, and you may be asymptomatic for 24-48 hours [or more] while still being contagious. 

So I look at it this way... Sunday night we're planning to do our St Patrick's Day celebration with the kids and my wife's dad and step-mom. They're not "old", at only 65. But he has Szogren's Syndrome (an autoimmune disease) so is more susceptible to and at higher risk for these things. 

How would I feel if I'd gone to a conference tournament, came home, was completely asymptomatic, and then found out that I'd infected him and he was hospitalized or [god forbid] died? 

These containment procedures are there for a reason. 

As I've said, I'm not sure if they're going too far or not. But at least I understand why they're doing it.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #814 on: March 12, 2020, 06:22:03 PM »
People die in car crashes, so let's ignore the virus.
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Perfect. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #815 on: March 12, 2020, 06:23:24 PM »
The problem is that it's not THAT irrational.

Yes, mortality rates for anyone who is not old or with underlying medical conditions are very low. I'm not worried about what would happen if I catch COVID-19.

But so far everything shows that this is much more transmissable than the flu. ESPECIALLY if you don't take these sort of precautions. It has a longer incubation period, and you may be asymptomatic for 24-48 hours [or more] while still being contagious.

So I look at it this way... Sunday night we're planning to do our St Patrick's Day celebration with the kids and my wife's dad and step-mom. They're not "old", at only 65. But he has Szogren's Syndrome (an autoimmune disease) so is more susceptible to and at higher risk for these things.

How would I feel if I'd gone to a conference tournament, came home, was completely asymptomatic, and then found out that I'd infected him and he was hospitalized or [god forbid] died?

These containment procedures are there for a reason.

As I've said, I'm not sure if they're going too far or not. But at least I understand why they're doing it.
I wouldn't try to convince anyone to care about the collective.  Many won't care until they, themselves, are hospitalized.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #816 on: March 12, 2020, 06:37:21 PM »
I don't mean to chastise anyone here at all.  I just wanted to recount an old experience we had here.  It got unpleasant.

I hope everyone stays safe and healthy.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #817 on: March 12, 2020, 06:52:38 PM »
Ohio schools closed for three weeks. Ohio's top health official guesstimates 100,000 people in the state are infected.

It's tough. I had planned on taking the fam to see my parents next week. But they are both in their 70's and my mom just got done with chemo. So...what, don't visit? But when realistically could I?

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #818 on: March 12, 2020, 06:55:06 PM »
Ohio schools closed for three weeks. Ohio's top health official guesstimates 100,000 people in the state are infected.

It's tough. I had planned on taking the fam to see my parents next week. But they are both in their 70's and my mom just got done with chemo. So...what, don't visit? But when realistically could I?
I would err on the side of caution in that circumstance.  I HOPE we know more about this in a couple weeks.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #819 on: March 12, 2020, 07:23:20 PM »
That's the thing. We don't know much of anything right now. We do know that this will pass, much like other pandemics have passed.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #820 on: March 12, 2020, 07:52:08 PM »
Our company just issued a no travel rule without approval from the C suite.  I'm mid trip now.  Do I need permission to go home? We wondered out loud.  We are even segregating our teams, which isn't that big of a deal.

Now I'm going to dine alone.  Still pretty normal dining crowds around here.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #821 on: March 12, 2020, 08:08:31 PM »
That's the thing. We don't know much of anything right now. We do know that this will pass, much like other pandemics have passed.
Precisely - and with this much unknown, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being proactive. 
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #822 on: March 12, 2020, 08:30:35 PM »
Two weeks ago, Italy had 322 confirmed cases of the coronavirus. At that point, doctors in the country’s hospitals could lavish significant attention on each stricken patient.

One week ago, Italy had 2,502 cases of the virus, which causes the disease known as COVID-19. At that point, doctors in the country’s hospitals could still perform the most lifesaving functions by artificially ventilating patients who experienced acute breathing difficulties.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/who-gets-hospital-bed/607807/

Since we don't know how bad this will get here.  I'm ok with any precaution
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #823 on: March 12, 2020, 08:44:36 PM »
12,000 cases in Italy, over 800 dead.  Yeah, let's just yell 'MURICA and ignore it  tough it out.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #824 on: March 13, 2020, 06:23:26 AM »
From what I'm reading:

1.  We might not build up immunity after being infected.  We also might.
2.  Summer might, or might not, slow the spread.
3.  Those infected and "recovered" may still spread the disease for some time.
4.  Some with mild symptoms may have no idea they have the disease and be contagious.
5.  The impact on children appears to be slight.  The impact on the aged and infirm can be critical.  For healthy adults, the impact is "not too bad" usually.
6.  The virus can survive on hard surfaces for up to a day or so, apparently.

Please correct any of that you understand to be wrong.  I presume the subways are largely shutting down or not being used.  I have a "notion" that many are preparing to "shelter in place" for a week or so and see what develops, hence the Costco runs.  Obviously, group travel is just about down now.  

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #825 on: March 13, 2020, 08:17:23 AM »
Now I'm going to dine alone. 
I eat a sandwich over the sink quite a bit - not that distressing ;D
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