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China is taking some drastic steps to reduce transmission.  For example, people are told not to leave their house, and trips for shopping are limited, and schools are all online.  They've even limited elevators to four people at a time.  So I don't think the lack of factory output is necessarily suggesting they are lying. 

I think the lack of factory output, nearly two months after they began quarantining those workers, indicates they are still dealing with a lot more than they are advising the WHO and the rest of the world.

I also know them to be chronic liars when it comes to things that they believe might make them look bad in the eyes of the world.

Don't get me wrong, I like China in general and I've worked directly with dozens of Chinese employees of my own companies, and others, for decades-- including two direct reports on the global team I managed at a previous employer.  I like their people, and I like their country, but this is a cultural thing for them, and a political thing for their government.

I do not trust a single data point they've distributed so far, and the truth is, we'll never know, because they have the capability of completely locking down that type of information, unlike most Western countries.

you have a speaker phone?

We canceled ours, based on quarantine fears. We're young and healthy so I wasn't worried about the virus. I was worried about getting back to work. We'll probably use the voucher for our 2021 Trans-Atlantic.

Airfare (points) has also been completely refunded. So, we'll spend a week or two at our new place in Florida, painting and remodeling a bathroom.

Wife is leaning towards cancelling our cruise and I also purchased my flights by points, so I will get everything refunded or credited toward further cruise.

It really is the fear of a quarantine that is moving us. Though I talked about talking our laptops with us, because both of us can work remotely, and just work from quarantine if it happens. 

I can't imagine just staying at home and using PTO for laying around the house, so I will probably take maybe a day or two but not the whole time. 

Wise move to cancel right now, given the lack of penalty. 

I get 7 weeks of PTO these days, and can never seem to get to that number used.

guess I won't be retiring in the next few months - oh well

Gavin Newsom just announced that all gatherings of over 250 people should be cancelled. Wife and I are planning to go to A Bronx Tale at our local OC theater (Segerstrom) tonight, and she's concerned whether we should go or not--or if Segerstrom will even continue holding shows.

Then, next Friday a winery club we belong to in Paso Robles is holding their annual party (probably well over 500 in attendance, but mostly held outside over the extent of their property, and not in close quarters), and we're trying to figure out whether that event will even occur. 

 For a few weeks the streets looked post-apocalyptic because of how empty they were, but it seems that as time has gone by, they've been easing up.

Thats good we should all be circulating that story from someone on the inside.Because of the Jerry Springer news sevices fanning the flames the truth won't get a fair shake.At least until even the Carnival Barkers realize this has run it's course