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Cincydawg

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #154 on: January 31, 2020, 01:33:03 PM »
Paris gets crowds.  The rest of France can be very nice in April and May.  Lyon is great.  People go to Paris to check boxes.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #155 on: January 31, 2020, 02:10:02 PM »
"DOW down sharply as coronavirus keeps investors on edge"


What a crock o' chit, these people. Keep emotions out of it, or get the hell out of the kitchen and let the real investors cook.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #156 on: January 31, 2020, 02:32:13 PM »
Actually it might have some serious effects.

China has already extended the New Year holiday by several days, and individual provinces may extend it up to another week more. Throughout Asia I think there are other countries doing the same. That in itself is a significant drag to business this quarter.

In many ways, this is an event already probably greater in magnitude and disruption than the Japanese earthquake/tsunami a couple years ago. That caused major disruption to the markets for electronic components. But I think its effects were limited to certain specialized components, whereas China is a huge supplier of basically everything.

Beyond that, we don't know exactly how far and badly this will spread. Travel restrictions, extended holidays in Asia, and other related supply chain disruptions can have a lot of downstream effects. This is akin to a major natural disaster occurring there, but perhaps worse in that the true scope isn't yet known.

I've had meetings with quite a few customers this week and one of the main topics of conversation was whether, and to what extent, coronavirus would disrupt supply chains for electronic components. If you can't get components you need, you can't build products, and then you can't sell what you didn't build, so companies will see nonzero revenue disruption from this event. Investors *should* be wary.

(As with anything else, of course, there are opportunities here. Shortages mean higher prices for certain components, which means higher profits for the suppliers of those components who are unaffected by the disruption, but lower profits for the users of those components. So there will be pockets of companies who benefit from this as well as those who will suffer.)
I just came back from lunch with my advisor (40 years experience). Not to worry on this one, with the allocations I'm in.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #157 on: January 31, 2020, 02:33:01 PM »
buy low, sell high
That is a good way to go broke. Trying to hit those targets is like playing roulette, and I only know one person who got rich of that. He no longer posts here.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #158 on: January 31, 2020, 02:56:37 PM »
well, my next couple 401K Roth purchases will probably be at a lower price than the last couple

and I won't be selling for years
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #159 on: January 31, 2020, 03:07:33 PM »
International is not the place to be right now, especially Asia. Some pharma and most medical devices are good. If you stick in the S&P, you're mostly pretty good.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #160 on: January 31, 2020, 03:21:12 PM »
I have some international, but a low percentage. probably less than 15%

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #161 on: January 31, 2020, 03:41:05 PM »
I'm at 10% right now. They are not doing well, as a whole, but you technically don't lose money if you don't take it out. That's one thing many people don't get.

People have lost more money overreacting than if they would have stuck it out. 

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Just draw a line from start to finish. People who lost money this year in the market are the ones who reacted on emotion, likely in June, August and October. Oops.
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #162 on: January 31, 2020, 03:53:01 PM »
I blame all the problems in China on Bobby Stoops!
All the puppies he stomped are blowing snot bubbles that are landing behind the Great Wall
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #163 on: January 31, 2020, 03:55:40 PM »
This will only affect supply chains in the relatively short term.  Anyone reacting to this and pulling money out of the types of companies that manufacture in China and sell globally, would be overreacting in a dramatic way.  

But, that's what people do, so there you have it.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #164 on: January 31, 2020, 03:57:08 PM »
or get the hell out of the kitchen and let the real investors cook.
That's what I used to say at the betting window because I'm an aggessive investor.......not a real bright one though
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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #165 on: January 31, 2020, 04:02:22 PM »
This will only affect supply chains in the relatively short term.  Anyone reacting to this and pulling money out of the types of companies that manufacture in China and sell globally, would be overreacting in a dramatic way. 

But, that's what people do, so there you have it.
Exactly. Long-term, this is a blip. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm generally the buy-and-hold type. I won't be 65 for 24 more years, so I'm not worried about this at all. For me any temporary downturn in the market is nothing more than dollar cost averaging as I regularly acquire.

Short-term, it's meaningful. If you're an active short-term investor, you need to have your finger on the pulse of all things like this. 

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #166 on: January 31, 2020, 04:17:08 PM »
I did better than expected last year, even with trimming in August.  I cannot time markets.  I know that.

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Re: 2020 Offseason Stream of Unconciousness
« Reply #167 on: January 31, 2020, 04:42:39 PM »
That is a good way to go broke. Trying to hit those targets is like playing roulette, and I only know one person who got rich of that. He no longer posts here.
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