2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread

[Mdot21]

Packers take Michigan OL Jon Runyan Jr in the 6th rd. I like that pick. A lot. He didn’t have the elite height or length or athleticism of a LT but he played the LT position very well. They’ll probably kick him to guard where he’s more naturally suited to play and he’ll be a really solid startable guard for a long time.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Not really. Players free fall in the draft all the time. Especially WR’s from small schools that run 4.7 or 4.8. That’s why he fell. He doesn’t run fast.

Google him. Do your research. I know you’re not familiar with him being you’re an SEC guy.

I'm a college football guy.  

[OrangeAfroMan]

Great pick for the Browns in the 6th rd. Browns got the best athlete at WR in the draft for the price of a 6th rd pick.

Your draft takes aren't bad, but why are they always so radical?  Again, if this was the case, he would have been drafted earlier.

[Honestbuckeye]

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/donovan-peoples-jones?id=32195045-4f60-4060-aa06-be3909ebff80

DPJ does not project well to the NFL. Very athletic yes but not an impressive route runner and not good being jammed and pressed. 

I hope it was a “Michigan “ thing and he proves those projections wrong- because he is a good kid.  

A great Route runner, several have said one of the best in draft, is K.J. Hill from OSU.  He may not get picked because he is not a huge breakaway threat.  But if a team needs a consistently open slot guy with dependable hands...

[bayareabadger]

The got Cephus today. I feel bad for him.

Outside the fact that him getting more money is better than less, I kind of think it is what it is.

He's been in school four years, so I can see not coming back. And he never really was going to be a guy who thrives on the testing side. He's just a pretty good ballplayer who will either grind it out or he won't. 

I remember having a convo with someone down this way about him. There's a reason he had to go from Macon to Madison for his best offer. 

[bayareabadger]

Great pick for the Browns in the 6th rd. Browns got the best athlete at WR in the draft for the price of a 6th rd pick.

DPJ is a legit 6’2”, 212 lbs. runs in the 4.4’s and has a 45” vertical. At minimum he should be up for the KR/PR duties right off the bat. And if he does get on the field he’s going to see a ton of single coverage with everyone gearing to stop OBJ and Jarvis.

Now he's just got to play receiver well. 

[Mdot21]

Your draft takes aren't bad, but why are they always so radical?  Again, if this was the case, he would have been drafted earlier.

I don’t think my takes are radical. At all. 

https://3sigmaathlete.com/sparq-rankings-2020/wide-receiver/

SPARQ scores measure overall athletic ability and explosion. DPJ is #1 at WR and in the 99th percentile for all players in the draft.

Ruggs is #2. Ruggs is also 5’11” and 188 pounds though. DPJ has 3 inches and 24 pounds on Ruggs. 

There isn’t a better raw package of combination of size, power, explosion, leaping ability in this draft at WR than DPJ. The reason why he was the #1 WR, 5*, and top 10 overall recruit in the 247Composite was because of his insane athletic ability and size.

[Mdot21]

Now he's just got to play receiver well.

If he can’t develop there in that situation he can’t anywhere. OBJ and Jarvis are two of the best in the business. If he can’t learn from them- who can he learn from. Baker is a really good up and coming QB that isn’t afraid to let it rip. He’s going to be single covered and maybe not covered at all every time he’s on the field with Cleveland with OBJ+Jarvis - that’s if he even makes the team.

If he can’t develop there he should just quit football.

[Mdot21]

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/donovan-peoples-jones?id=32195045-4f60-4060-aa06-be3909ebff80

DPJ does not project well to the NFL. Very athletic yes but not an impressive route runner and not good being jammed and pressed.

I hope it was a “Michigan “ thing and he proves those projections wrong- because he is a good kid. 

A great Route runner, several have said one of the best in draft, is K.J. Hill from OSU.  He may not get picked because he is not a huge breakaway threat.  But if a team needs a consistently open slot guy with dependable hands...

He’s a terrible route runner and he doesn’t know how to find the open spaces in zone coverage and like you said his releases off the line are not good. 

Pure raw athlete that needs to be developed. Cleveland got him for nothing in the 6th rd. Low risk, high reward. If he takes to the coaching and learns little tricks of the trade from OBJ and Jarvis he could flourish. 

If not- he’s just another 6th rd pick. No big deal. 

[MrNubbz]

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/donovan-peoples-jones?id=32195045-4f60-4060-aa06-be3909ebff80

DPJ does not project well to the NFL. Very athletic yes but not an impressive route runner and not good being jammed and pressed.

He had some drops vs the buckeyes but he returned the ball well for 2 yrs and has quickness and good moves he is a solid 6-2.He could have used another year but it's not like Ms offense would have benefitted him losing the O-line,some RBs and the QB.How much does he get the ball there?Think he'll do well and i like the pick,specially there

[Mdot21]

He had some drops vs the buckeyes but he returned the ball well for 2 yrs and has quickness and good moves he is a solid 6-2.He could have used another year but it's not like Ms offense would have benefitted him losing the O-line,some RBs and the QB.How much does he get the ball there?Think he'll do well and i like the pick,specially there

Michigan’s offenses under Harbaugh have been an abortion.

And the first year that DPJ was at Michigan, Michigan did not have a wide receivers Coach. And he was the top WR in the room, he didn’t have established upperclass WR to teach him the ropes. Best programs always have established guys that can teach the younger guys coming in how to do it. Oh and they also have position coaches for every position. True story, Michigan did not have a dedicated WRs coach in 2017. They hired former Florida head coach Jim McElwain in 2018 to coach WRs and he left for CMU before the season ended. Not sure he was ever really known for developing WR’s either- it always struck me as a weird hire. They’ve had a legit high level WR coach one year- this year with Gattis.

Tarik Black’s decision to grad transfer looks super smart right now.

[MrNubbz]

Preaching to the choir,he'll do well.I think Baker,Odell and the boys will rub off.Pick I wasn't sure of TE Harrison Bryant,they're OK there and could use some back up on the lines.He could be good but why not shore up the lines

[ELA]

Michigan’s offenses under Harbaugh have been an abortion.

And the first year that DPJ was at Michigan, Michigan did not have a wide receivers Coach. And he was the top WR in the room, he didn’t have established upperclass WR to teach him the ropes. Best programs always have established guys that can teach the younger guys coming in how to do it. Oh and they also have position coaches for every position. True story, Michigan did not have a dedicated WRs coach in 2017. They hired former Florida head coach Jim McElwain in 2018 to coach WRs and he left for CMU before the season ended. Not sure he was ever really known for developing WR’s either- it always struck me as a weird hire. They’ve had a legit high level WR coach one year- this year with Gattis.

Tarik Black’s decision to grad transfer looks super smart right now.

Two years ago Shea Patterson was projected to be a top 10 pick after his JUNIOR year.  Now he's an undrafted senior.  Any talk of Harbaugh being some sort of QB whisperer is officially dead and gone.

[ELA]

Lesson is Don't Do Drugs.  Zack Baun and Joe Bachie both fell tremendously because of them.