2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread

[Riffraft]

I lived in Cincinnati long enough to pay a bit of attention to the Bungles.  Their recent history is what I'm thinking about being BAD for a prolonged period of time.

1991-2002.  Their best season was 8-8.  They then crawled up to being decent at times, 7 playoff appearances, all loses.

As a confirmed Bungle hater, Moving to Cincy in 1990 and being among all their fans during that down time was quite pleasant. 

[Riffraft]

In 1973, he led the NFL with 3,219 yards and 23 touchdown passes, for which he was awarded the NFL Comeback Player of the Year Award. As of the end of the 2016 NFL season, he still holds the Rams' career records for touchdown passes (154), passes attempted (3,313), and wins by a starting quarterback (74).

That is Roman Gabriel who started in 1962 (not as starting QB).  They didn't play as many games back then of course. 

Was never a Rams' fan, but I really Like Roman Gabriel, also loved the fearsome foursome.

[ELA]

Looks like Gronk coming out of retirement to reunite with Brady in Tampa.

[FearlessF]

perfect!

[Mdot21]

Looks like Gronk coming out of retirement to reunite with Brady in Tampa.

Holy smokes. 

That WR/TE room is officially insane. 

[Mdot21]

I'd go
1. Luck
2. Stafford
3. Palmer

Not an easy exercise, because you have to ignore what they did in the NFL.  I know some of us are utterly incapable of the task. 

And I’d say they were all really damn good, maybe even great.

Palmer was on the verge of true greatness before injuries/coaching/ownership derailed his career. He was given up for dead before he resurrected his career in Arizona with Larry Fitzgerald.

Stafford and Luck were both excellent, big time talents and I think Luck would’ve been in the HOF if not for injuries destroying his career. Stafford ever gets out of the dumpster fire that is Detroit and wins a SB or two he’ll be in the Hall.

[Mdot21]

I am going to be fascinated to see what the Bucs do on draft day. Lot of people suggesting they should trade OJ Howard for draft picks, but I wouldn't do that, not with Gronk's injury history. Plus, the most effective that Gronkowski ever played was when the Pats used that two TE set with Gronk/Hernandez. Could very well see a repeat of that with Gronk/OJ Howard.

Gronk stays healthy and they keep OJ Howard- my god that offense will be insane. Especially if they are able to snatch one of D'Andre Swift, Jonathan Taylor, Cam Akers, JK Dobbins, or AJ Dillon in the 2nd round and take a flier on an athletic WR in the 3 or 4th rd. If they could pull off KJ Hamler in the 3rd or 4th round to play in the slot. Would not be fair.

[Cincydawg]

Luck/Stafford/Palmer - They all were top tier QBs, right (put aside injuries).  Height, strong arms, smart, etc.

Is Burrow in that group IYO?  Near that?  One year isn't enough?  Is Tu'a?  

If the group of "can't miss" prospects really never missed, that is a something I think.  Put injuries aside.

Burrow did some things last year that impressed me a lot on broken plays.  So has Tu'a.

[CWSooner]

When I was a kid and dinosaurs roamed the Earth, teams seemed to have one QB for ages and ages.  Johnny U.  Bart Starr.  Y.A. Title.  Fran Tarkenton.  Roman Gabriel.  Manziel.  They personified their teams.  How good were those guys by modern standards?

I don't recall such a surplus of really good QBs coming out of CFB in one year either.

I remember some of those dinosaurs.  Y.A. Tittle retired right before I got interested, and suddenly the Giants were mediocrities.  There were some other guys too.  John Brodie.  Frank Ryan.  Bobby Douglas.  Sonny Jurgenson.  They did sort of personify their teams.  Except for Ryan.  Jim Brown personified that team.  Same thing with Bobby Douglas and Gale Sayers.

[CWSooner]

Was never a Rams' fan, but I really Like Roman Gabriel, also loved the fearsome foursome.

Same here.

[Mdot21]

Luck/Stafford/Palmer - They all were top tier QBs, right (put aside injuries).  Height, strong arms, smart, etc.

Is Burrow in that group IYO?  Near that?  One year isn't enough?  Is Tu'a? 

If the group of "can't miss" prospects really never missed, that is a something I think.  Put injuries aside.

Burrow did some things last year that impressed me a lot on broken plays.  So has Tu'a.

I wouldn't quite put Burrow or Tua in that group to be honest. Luck, Stafford, and Palmer were pretty much physical specimens.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Burrow doesn't have the "arm talent" of those 3 listed.  I don't think anyone would say he does, himself included.

[OrangeAfroMan]

Boy, watching this Senior Bowl practice replay - just learning all of that verbiage would be a chore. 
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Gronk to the Bucs.....I envision his elbow as being made of play-doh.  Along the lines of Grant Hill's heel and that Braves' pitcher who had the 3 Tommy John surgeries.

[Cincydawg]

I remember some of those dinosaurs.  Y.A. Tittle retired right before I got interested, and suddenly the Giants were mediocrities.  There were some other guys too.  John Brodie.  Frank Ryan.  Bobby Douglas.  Sonny Jurgenson.  They did sort of personify their teams.  Except for Ryan.  Jim Brown personified that team.  Same thing with Bobby Douglas and Gale Sayers.

It's interesting how they were the face of their team basically.  Those were some tough hombres probably not getting paid very much.