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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #812 on: July 14, 2020, 04:04:59 PM »
I do think it has taken on a very politicized tone. That said, I think it's a term that makes sense.

It's voicing a political opinion [often unwarranted] that probably has no meaningful impact on your daily life, and that--deep down--you really don't give a crap about, because it shows that you're part of the correct tribe.

For example--I think the Washington Redskins should change their name. I believe this despite the fact that I am not a Native American and to have no Native American ancestry. I think this despite the fact that I don't live in Washington DC nor am I actually a fan of the team. I think this despite the fact that honestly, I'm not "offended" by the name. The Washington Redskins are, to me, absolutely inconsequential unless I choose one of their players for a fantasy football team or if I'm facing someone who has chosen one of their players.

So I have no vested interest in the team nor their name, I just think it's ridiculous that in 2020 it's still a thing. 

Does that mean that this argument, for me, is no more than virtue signaling?
That's about the way I see it too.  I have no rooting interest in the Washington Redskins.  I used to root for them to beat Dallas, but I don't give enough of a crap about the NFL to even care about that anymore.  I will watch them neither more nor less independent of them changing their name.
But I think that changing their name is the right thing to do.  And I can't think of any good reason for people who aren't Washington fans to get angry about the change.  What in their lives are they losing when a team changes its name from a racial epithet to something else?
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #813 on: July 14, 2020, 04:16:27 PM »
So the definition I’ve read doesn’t touch on the idea of the belief being insincere. That would imply sincerity makes it not virtue signaling.

I mean, lots of people do lots of showy things To give off the image of virtue. But in some cases it’s a bad thing, and in others less so.
I don't think it necessarily requires the belief to be insincere. 

Moreso that the outward display of belief is the performance, regardless of whether the belief itself is sincere. 

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #814 on: July 15, 2020, 08:53:10 AM »
My sense is that it is a way for white folks to demonstrate they are not racists, outwardly.

They can use bumper stickers, the can donate to causes, they can buy the right magazines, etc., and they can march for equality.

Back in my day, it was "Save the Whales".  OK, then, I'm all for whaling, I mean, whales.  I like whales.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #815 on: July 15, 2020, 12:25:22 PM »
Joining the mob in pounding on someone who steps out of line the least bit is another way of doing it.
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #816 on: July 15, 2020, 01:16:03 PM »
Joining the mob in pounding on someone who steps out of line the least bit is another way of doing it.
I think that was rare, as a percentage of those protesting.

It's trendy.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #817 on: July 15, 2020, 01:27:39 PM »
All this is PR and marketing driven, nothing else, in reality.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #818 on: July 21, 2020, 12:38:38 PM »

https://youtu.be/AtK_YsVInw8

Amazing. Thanks for this. Carlin is one of the GOATs.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #819 on: July 21, 2020, 02:13:01 PM »
Back in my day, it was "Save the Whales".  OK, then, I'm all for whaling, I mean, whales.  I like whales.
Remember "No Nukes" "Save The Whales" "Gay Rights".Think it was National Lampoon putting out T-Sirts "Nuke The Gay Whales" - they sold pretty good as I recall
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #820 on: July 21, 2020, 02:14:26 PM »
I imagine you bought one or two
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« Reply #821 on: July 21, 2020, 02:19:47 PM »
Put one on today and people would look at you like you did enough drugs to send sniffer dogs into early retirement
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #822 on: July 21, 2020, 03:52:14 PM »
I signed up for some club my freshman year, I forget the name now, supposed to be a do good kind of thing.  The reason was they had two good looking coeds at their booth.  So I went to a few meetings, and our deal to raise money was to usher at university concerts, they had the Beach Boys once.  OK, fine.  But, and you can see this coming, I never saw anything of those two females, in fact, there were zero females in the club.  The other folks were all "pre-law" and resume building.  We had maybe ten people in it, maybe, and everyone was some kind of officer, except me, I didn't care, finally drifted off.

I could have been Executive Vice President for Membership and Finding Good Looking Coeds.


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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #823 on: July 21, 2020, 04:25:13 PM »
I signed up for some club my freshman year, I forget the name now, supposed to be a do good kind of thing.  The reason was they had two good looking coeds at their booth.  So I went to a few meetings, and our deal to raise money was to usher at university concerts, they had the Beach Boys once.  OK, fine.  But, and you can see this coming, I never saw anything of those two females, in fact, there were zero females in the club.  The other folks were all "pre-law" and resume building.  We had maybe ten people in it, maybe, and everyone was some kind of officer, except me, I didn't care, finally drifted off.

I could have been Executive Vice President for Membership and Finding Good Looking Coeds.
When I went into electrical engineering, I knew it was a bit of a sausage fest of a major. And at a school like Purdue, which was around 55% male student body at the time, the odds were already stacked against us.

So I decided that I should probably pick some sort of a minor in the school of liberal arts to "broaden my education", and to meet girls. I have pretty wide-ranging interests anyway, so I thought it might be educationally interesting too.

I picked philosophy. After all, I'd had an intro to philosophy course my junior year of high school that I really enjoyed. I was really interested in philosophy (in some ways, I still am). 

Can you guess how many girls there are in philosophy classes?

About as many as there were in electrical engineering. 

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #824 on: July 21, 2020, 04:53:15 PM »
there were some girls in the philosophy class I took at UNL.  But, the student body was probably 60-65% female
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread
« Reply #825 on: July 21, 2020, 10:32:07 PM »
  And I can't think of any good reason for people who aren't Washington fans to get angry about the change.  What in their lives are they losing when a team changes its name from a racial epithet to something else?
Then they'll just be FORCED to buy all new merchandise! 
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