2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread

[Cincydawg]

Tua declares, some think this means Fromm stays.

[rook119]

Idk, if Manziel and Tebow are 1st round picks, I'm not sure teams give a damn about being controversial. 

Rodgers and Jackson did plummet. but yea you're right. some don't (Jerry wanted Manziel but listened to common sense from his staff).

I actually thought Tebow was never that bad and could have been good career backup. I guess no one wanted 24/7 WWL coverage of a backup QB tho.  

[OrangeAfroMan]

I actually thought Tebow was never that bad and could have been good career backup. I guess no one wanted 24/7 WWL coverage of a backup QB tho. 

I get their thinking on this.  What I don't understand is the portion of fans that very likely wouldn't have let up in their fandom if he did stick around for years as a backup.  They'd be clamoring for him after every incompletion from the starting QB, after every failed QB sneak.  They'd never wrap their head around the reality of the situation.  
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There really, truly is a (un)healthy percentage of the population where reality is lost on them.  Not just about a football player, but on most everything.

[Cincydawg]

Reality sux.  

[MrNubbz]

Oops moved to NFL Thread

[GopherRock]

Antoine Winfield Jr. declares. Good luck to him. 

[NorthernOhioBuckeye]

Antoine Winfield Jr. declares. Good luck to him.

I haven't really watched him play much, but if he is even half the player is dad was, he will be a pro bowler. Sr. was one of the best corners that I ever saw play the game. For his size, he was not only a shutdown corner, but didn't allow anything around the edge on his side. He would tackle anyone. 

[MaximumSam]

Jake Fromm heading to NFL waters

[ELA]

I haven't really watched him play much, but if he is even half the player is dad was, he will be a pro bowler. Sr. was one of the best corners that I ever saw play the game. For his size, he was not only a shutdown corner, but didn't allow anything around the edge on his side. He would tackle anyone.

Crazy thing was, is that he was fine, but nothing special with the Bills, who drafted him.  Then went to Minnesota, and became elite.  His best year was his 10th season in the NFL, and his Pro Bowl seasons were his 10th, 11th and 12th.  Don't see that too often.

I'd be curious if there were any other multi-time Pro Bowlers, whose first didn't come until at least their 10th season.  Particularly position players, QBs are a little different.  I imagine like Rich Gannon or Brad Johnson or Doug Flutie maybe did it

[Kris60]

Crazy thing was, is that he was fine, but nothing special with the Bills, who drafted him.  Then went to Minnesota, and became elite.  His best year was his 10th season in the NFL, and his Pro Bowl seasons were his 10th, 11th and 12th.  Don't see that too often.

I'd be curious if there were any other multi-time Pro Bowlers, whose first didn't come until at least their 10th season.  Particularly position players, QBs are a little different.  I imagine like Rich Gannon or Brad Johnson or Doug Flutie maybe did it

Darryl Talley (former WVU player) came pretty close.  He was a 2 time Pro Bowler at LB for the Bills who didn’t earn the honor until his 8th and 9th seasons in the league.

On another note, I was a total fanboy of the elder Winfield.  Loved that guy when he was at Ohio St and followed him him somewhat in the NFL.  Just loved the way he played the game.  He was great, and I mean great, in run support.  Very solid cover corner too.

[NorthernOhioBuckeye]

Darryl Talley (former WVU player) came pretty close.  He was a 2 time Pro Bowler at LB for the Bills who didn’t earn the honor until his 8th and 9th seasons in the league.

On another note, I was a total fanboy of the elder Winfield.  Loved that guy when he was at Ohio St and followed him him somewhat in the NFL.  Just loved the way he played the game.  He was great, and I mean great, in run support.  Very solid cover corner too.

That is what I remember most about him. And he was about 175 lbs or something like that? I never remember him missing a tackle and usually when he made contact, the runner went down right there, not 5 yds downfield. 

[Kris60]

That is what I remember most about him. And he was about 175 lbs or something like that? I never remember him missing a tackle and usually when he made contact, the runner went down right there, not 5 yds downfield.

Yep, 175, 180. Somewhere in that range. Best tackling corner I’ve ever seen.

He actually reminded of a kid I played football with for years.  Hell of a football player.  He started at CB for us as a freshman and he was just like Winfield.  Wasn’t a big dude but man he tackled someone they were tackled. Rarely hit  anyone higher than the knees.  I saw him on several occasions just flip ball carriers upside down from the force of his hits.

[ELA]

Wow, MSU WR Cody White declares for the draft.  Didn't see that one coming.

He showed flashes of brilliance, was an elite, and I mean elite, route runner, but his hands led to some dropsies way too often, and he is lousy as a run blocker.

[Honestbuckeye]

Yep, 175, 180. Somewhere in that range. Best tackling corner I’ve ever seen.

He actually reminded of a kid I played football with for years.  Hell of a football player.  He started at CB for us as a freshman and he was just like Winfield.  Wasn’t a big dude but man he tackled someone they were tackled. Rarely hit  anyone higher than the knees.  I saw him on several occasions just flip ball carriers upside down from the force of his hits.

Totally agree.  My favorite Buckeye ever. Best corner I ever saw, short of Woodson.