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Topic: 2020 NFL Draft/Offseason thread

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2019, 01:15:05 PM »
but, will he play vs Bama?
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2019, 09:26:20 AM »
I heard David Pollack say the only move is for the Bengals to draft Joe Burrow #1, and hire Joe Brady as OC.

Honestly, that almost makes too much sense.

You slide him in there with a great offensive mind, who he spent a year working with.  They took a LT with their first pick last year, who missed the entire season with an injury, and a TE in the 2nd round, who is also hurt.  Joe Mixon is coming on at running back, and you've still got A.J. Green and Tyler Boyd.

Instead of shoehorning your QB into your system, you bring the QB and system in together, and mix it with an underrated group of skill position players, and a 1st round LT.  Plus whatever you can buy with the money in getting Andy Dalton off the books to upgrade the defense and OL?  The Bengals have a good chance to be the surprise team of 2020 IMO.  Going from 0-16 or whatever, to 8-8ish?

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2019, 05:10:46 PM »
I heard David Pollack say the only move is for the Bengals to draft Joe Burrow #1, and hire Joe Brady as OC.

Honestly, that almost makes too much sense.

You slide him in there with a great offensive mind, who he spent a year working with.  They took a LT with their first pick last year, who missed the entire season with an injury, and a TE in the 2nd round, who is also hurt.  Joe Mixon is coming on at running back, and you've still got A.J. Green and Tyler Boyd.

Instead of shoehorning your QB into your system, you bring the QB and system in together, and mix it with an underrated group of skill position players, and a 1st round LT.  Plus whatever you can buy with the money in getting Andy Dalton off the books to upgrade the defense and OL?  The Bengals have a good chance to be the surprise team of 2020 IMO.  Going from 0-16 or whatever, to 8-8ish?
Makes perfect sense. Therefore probably won't happen lol... 

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2019, 08:54:10 AM »
I heard David Pollack say the only move is for the Bengals to draft Joe Burrow #1, and hire Joe Brady as OC.

Honestly, that almost makes too much sense.

You slide him in there with a great offensive mind, who he spent a year working with.  They took a LT with their first pick last year, who missed the entire season with an injury, and a TE in the 2nd round, who is also hurt.  Joe Mixon is coming on at running back, and you've still got A.J. Green and Tyler Boyd.

Instead of shoehorning your QB into your system, you bring the QB and system in together, and mix it with an underrated group of skill position players, and a 1st round LT.  Plus whatever you can buy with the money in getting Andy Dalton off the books to upgrade the defense and OL?  The Bengals have a good chance to be the surprise team of 2020 IMO.  Going from 0-16 or whatever, to 8-8ish?
I can't see them going 7-9 w/ that OL. Even if Burrow is say as good as Kyler Murray next year.  Getting Brady as an OC would be smart tho. However, I'm not sure if coach whatshisname will let him call plays and I don't see Mike Brown paying big $$$ for a OC.  

There is one constant w/ pretty much the 10 worst teams teams in the league. An ugly OL and the Bengals OL is the worst of a really bad lot. I do think QB development/performance is highly dependent on the OL (see Ravens, Chiefs, heck even Duck Dodgers on the steelers has been competent) Murray is doing alright with a really bad OL, but he can move. 


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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2019, 03:19:56 PM »
There is one constant w/ pretty much the 10 worst teams teams in the league. An ugly OL and the Bengals OL is the worst of a really bad lot. I do think QB development/performance is highly dependent on the OL (see Ravens, Chiefs, heck even Duck Dodgers on the steelers has been competent) Murray is doing alright with a really bad OL, but he can move.
Yep. The OL covers up a lot of sins from the skill players behind them.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2019, 03:27:21 PM »
as a Husker fan, I've always had the thought that if you built the O-line properly the offense would take care of itself for the most part

what is the issue with the Dallas Cowboys???

Highest paid O-line in the NFL and can't win games.  I know getting paid the highest doesn't mean the best performance.

Are the Cowboys O-linemen underperforming terribly???

Dak was leading the league in passing yards, Zeke is a better than average back, good yardage.....

the defense doesn't seem to be that terrible

poor red zone preformance?
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2019, 04:48:06 PM »
I don't know what's wrong with the Cowboys. Their offense statistically is great (best in yards/game, but only around 8th-9th in pts/game), and their defense is above average. That should be a good recipe.

They're -2 in turnover margin, which doesn't help, but it shouldn't be that significant after 13 games. 

They're 6-7. 5 of their 7 losses were by a TD or less. All 6 of their wins were by >1 TD. To me, that says that maybe the luck just isn't flowing their way in those close games. 

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2019, 06:46:22 PM »

https://twitter.com/marcmorehouse/status/1211046788905390080

It sounds like Tristan Wirfs and AJ Epenesa are entering the draft.

OT Alaric Jackson is coming back.

S Geno Stone is still deciding, but his comments make me feel like he's leaving. I'm not really sure what he's thinking. He's not on Amani Hooker's level and Amani went in the 4th.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2019, 01:43:35 PM »
Josiah Scott announces he's leaving early for the draft.

Also renders the controversy over him opting to play in the Redbox Bowl last year, and burning his redshirt, moot

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2019, 11:06:15 AM »
No shocker that Dobbins is going pro.  I'll be interested to see where he ends up and how he is utilized.  

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2019, 11:40:23 AM »
I don't know what's wrong with the Cowboys. Their offense statistically is great (best in yards/game, but only around 8th-9th in pts/game), and their defense is above average. That should be a good recipe.

They're -2 in turnover margin, which doesn't help, but it shouldn't be that significant after 13 games.

They're 6-7. 5 of their 7 losses were by a TD or less. All 6 of their wins were by >1 TD. To me, that says that maybe the luck just isn't flowing their way in those close games.
I don't really follow the NFL all that closely and certainly not the Cowboys but those stats scream two things:
  • RZ offense is a MAJOR problem.  It would be reasonable for the #1 team in yards to be maybe #2 or #3 in points but #8/9 is terrible.  That will cost you, believe me, I know as a tOSU fan!  
  • Luck, probably related to RZ issues:  Being 0-5 in one-score games is unusual.  It happens, but it is unusual.  Some of that is just dumb luck.  


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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2019, 12:41:24 PM »
especially with Kai Forbath 10 for 10

Maher did miss 10 FGs
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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2019, 12:45:47 PM »
Carolina should keep Cam (who's a bargain at $19M - that's not even Sam Bradford money) and draft Tua. There is a good core of vets there, they could turn it around pretty quickly.

That being said I could see Tua falling as far down as the Patriots.
real chance he comes back. not saying i'd recommend that, but there's a real chance several bama jrs come back for a revenge tour. smith, ruggs, wills, leatherwood, xavier, and moses (already said he's staying). most think it hinges on tua, and his dad is firmly in the stay in school camp. per rumors, of course. we'll see. harris and jeudy are only ones most consider locks to go to draft.

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Re: 2020 NFL Draft thread
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2019, 10:37:56 PM »
KJ Hamler going pro.

 

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