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Topic: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread

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ELA

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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2020, 09:44:32 PM »
But Collins is back
Weird, assumed vice versa

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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2020, 09:20:02 AM »
Really?Ya what ELA said,could be a mistake,seeing as the O-Line and QB will prolly be weaker because of NFL/Grads.Collins avg of 20+ YPC lead the conference I believe.Hard to see his stock getting higher if they can't get him the ball.But who knows maybe the opposite could develop,hope he stays healthy
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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2020, 10:16:25 AM »
Really?Ya what ELA said,could be a mistake,seeing as the O-Line and QB will prolly be weaker because of NFL/Grads.Collins avg of 20+ YPC lead the conference I believe.Hard to see his stock getting higher if they can't get him the ball.But who knows maybe the opposite could develop,hope he stays healthy
I can only guess he did not get a 1st or 2nd round draft grade.  That's not necessarily due to his talent level; there are a TON of ultra talented receivers going pro this year.  

I also think he has a lot of room for improvement as far as route running goes.  

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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2020, 10:33:46 AM »
The Big Ten alone is stoked with Sunday WRs.Nico graded out well from PFF as to hanging onto the ball.Just saying from what i've seen Nico is at least a late 2nd early 3rd round pick.He could be one of those tweeners look what DK Metcalf did yesterday and they listed him as 6'4" he had like 900 yds as a rookie.Both are similar in physical size to Josh Gordon who unfortunately can't leave the hippy lettuce alone
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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2020, 10:39:40 AM »
I can only guess he did not get a 1st or 2nd round draft grade.  That's not necessarily due to his talent level; there are a TON of ultra talented receivers going pro this year. 

I also think he has a lot of room for improvement as far as route running goes. 
My general theory is that if you are 1st round you should go, if not you should stay.  That said, I think that @MrNubbz makes some good points.  If it looks like the offense that you are a part of is going to regress, you might want to get out while the getting is good.  I'm not sure that applies here, but it might.  

My favorite example of this is Pepe Pearson of Ohio State:
In 1995 Eddie George rushed for 1,927 (5.9 per carry) yards and won the Heisman Trophy behind a stellar OL.  The following year Pepe Pearson took over the starting job and rushed for 1,484 (5.0 per carry) yards.  That SEEMED great, but in reality it wasn't.  Any random college RB would have had about what Pearson had because nearly all of that OL that had blocked for Eddie George's Heisman returned.  Any RB would have looked good behind that line.  

Pearson decided to return for the 1997 season but the OL was gone.  He only rushed for 869 (4.5 per carry) yards while splitting carries almost evenly with Michael Wiley who had 588 (5.6 per carry) yards.  

Pearson definitely should have left after the 1996 season and staying around for the 1997 season cost him a TON of money because it exposed the fact that he really wasn't that great of a RB, he was just in a REALLY great position in 1996.  

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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2020, 06:26:59 PM »
My general theory is that if you are 1st round you should go, if not you should stay.  That said, I think that @MrNubbz makes some good points.  If it looks like the offense that you are a part of is going to regress, you might want to get out while the getting is good.  I'm not sure that applies here, but it might. 

My favorite example of this is Pepe Pearson of Ohio State:
In 1995 Eddie George rushed for 1,927 (5.9 per carry) yards and won the Heisman Trophy behind a stellar OL.  The following year Pepe Pearson took over the starting job and rushed for 1,484 (5.0 per carry) yards.  That SEEMED great, but in reality it wasn't.  Any random college RB would have had about what Pearson had because nearly all of that OL that had blocked for Eddie George's Heisman returned.  Any RB would have looked good behind that line. 

Pearson decided to return for the 1997 season but the OL was gone.  He only rushed for 869 (4.5 per carry) yards while splitting carries almost evenly with Michael Wiley who had 588 (5.6 per carry) yards. 

Pearson definitely should have left after the 1996 season and staying around for the 1997 season cost him a TON of money because it exposed the fact that he really wasn't that great of a RB, he was just in a REALLY great position in 1996. 
I actually thought the opposite situation may have kept both DPJ and Nico. Patterson was horrid throwing beyond 10 yard. Short routes, he definitely improved, but consistently missed open receivers down field over and over. Both DPJ and Nico had the advantage down field, one by speed and another by size so I think it would benefit them by having a an with better deep accuracy. That being said, there’s no guarantee the next up will improve, but I’m not sure how much worse qb1 could be compared to Patterson on the deep ball.

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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2020, 06:44:25 PM »
Maybe M had a better passer but he wasn't played.I know Warriner can do a lot if he has some talent as I believe M will lose at least 2 maybe 3 O-Lineman
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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2020, 12:15:23 PM »
Anthony Campanile turns down DC offers from BC and Rutgers to stay LB coach at UM.  Big for them for a couple reasons.  If he left, they'd be on their 4th LB coach in 4 years, plus with Partridge leaving for Ole Miss, that would mean losing both of their NJ recruiters.

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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2020, 07:09:45 PM »
Michael Dwumfor in the portal

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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2020, 10:02:02 PM »
Anthony Campanile turns down DC offers from BC and Rutgers to stay LB coach at UM.  Big for them for a couple reasons.  If he left, they'd be on their 4th LB coach in 4 years, plus with Partridge leaving for Ole Miss, that would mean losing both of their NJ recruiters.
Or Stephen Ross hired him away to the Dolphins

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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2020, 02:40:38 PM »
His son signed, played and left, his purpose is done

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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2020, 02:52:56 PM »
That smells funny.
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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2020, 03:58:16 PM »
Nope jimmy gonna hire a prospective recruits coach/parent,have to make some room
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Re: 2020 Michigan Offseason Thread
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2020, 03:59:19 PM »
yup, Jimmy either needs another recruit or a better coach
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