2020-2021 B1G Basketball Thread

[bayareabadger]

Ongoing rant - Loyola missed a wide open 3. Announcer says that's not a great shot even though it was open and the shooter is good at 3s. What?

Some people just don't like the idea of long jumpers. I think we here had a discussion at some point about not taking a 3 when you're trying to hold a lead. 

And it gets wonky. Like, if they're giving up open shots there, they're probably not giving up open shots elsewhere. 

[MaximumSam]

Some people just don't like the idea of long jumpers. I think we here had a discussion at some point about not taking a 3 when you're trying to hold a lead.

And it gets wonky. Like, if they're giving up open shots there, they're probably not giving up open shots elsewhere.

The guy's rationale was Loyola's offense is about moving the ball, not taking shots early in the possession.  This is true, but it isn't a legitimate reason to bypass a wide open three from a good shooter. You move the ball on offense to generate good shots, not because you get extra points for passing the ball.  

In any event, there can be good reasons it was a bad shot. Basketball advanced stats are ridiculous these days - the guy might be a good shooter from a spot up look, but a bad one off the dribble. Or he may be bad at threes from that spot on the floor, though good at other spots. I feel announcers should be (1) entertaining and/or (2) help you understand the game you are watching. Too often it is just a guy talking while the game is going on, sometimes actively telling you things that make no sense.

[bayareabadger]

The guy's rationale was Loyola's offense is about moving the ball, not taking shots early in the possession.  This is true, but it isn't a legitimate reason to bypass a wide open three from a good shooter. You move the ball on offense to generate good shots, not because you get extra points for passing the ball. 

In any event, there can be good reasons it was a bad shot. Basketball advanced stats are ridiculous these days - the guy might be a good shooter from a spot up look, but a bad one off the dribble. Or he may be bad at threes from that spot on the floor, though good at other spots. I feel announcers should be (1) entertaining and/or (2) help you understand the game you are watching. Too often it is just a guy talking while the game is going on, sometimes actively telling you things that make no sense.

As a Wisconsin fan who has watch uncountable numbers of middling shots thrown up after ball movement and watched fans BEG for shots to go up early when they're open, this makes me chuckle. 

[TyphonInc]

Ongoing rant - Loyola missed a wide open 3. Announcer says that's not a great shot even though it was open and the shooter is good at 3s. What?

I think announcers these days are most glorified 'yes' men. Had he made the three, he would have been saying it's a great shot.
Same with fouls, even if it's a bad call they will look for any reason to say yes the ref is right.

[MaximumSam]

Definitely some barn burning in Creighton Gonzaga

[bayareabadger]

I feel like the Zags are playing with their food a bit. Like they're not smashing Creighton, but winning comfortably, and Creighton isn't doing much to cause that. 

[bayareabadger]

IU hiring Mike Woodson, career NBA guy and Bob Knight guy.

He was fired after being just OK with the Hawks, had one very good season with the Knicks after being a mid-season promotion, then got fired.

I don't get it. 

[MaximumSam]

IU hiring Mike Woodson, career NBA guy and Bob Knight guy.

He was fired after being just OK with the Hawks, had one very good season with the Knicks after being a mid-season promotion, then got fired.

I don't get it.

Also hiring Thad Matta as some sort of basketball AD or something. Pretty clearly influenced by Michigan and Juwan Howard. 

[MaximumSam]

Not exactly scintillating basketball, but Michigan with an 11 point lead at the half. FSU looks totally lost on offense. Teams combined to go 2-14 from 3. Hopefully fewer bricks in the second half.

[MaximumSam]

After two blowouts, we got a good little game here. Will UCLA foul?

[MaximumSam]

WOW

[MaximumSam]

UCLA with a heck of an overtime. To face Michigan for a final four spot. Buckeyes have beat both teams so I consider them an honorary final four team.

[Kris60]

After two blowouts, we got a good little game here. Will UCLA foul?

UCLA’s defense in that buzzer beater was as bad as it gets. You have to get within 5 feet of an opposing player to have a chance to foul. That was as easy a look as you can get in that situation. Didn’t cost them though.

After a few rough years in both football and basketball the Pac 12 needed a tournament like this.

[ELA]

At least we got one good game today