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Topic: 2019 Ohio State Season Thread

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MaximumSam

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #210 on: March 22, 2019, 08:59:10 AM »
There are plenty of ways forward for the NCAA.  Unfortunately, they all require universities to admit that the huge money being generated should be shared with the athletes instead of making six and seven figure no-work jobs for bureaucrats and trust fund babies.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #211 on: March 22, 2019, 09:02:10 AM »
We are beginning to venture out into the weeds a little bit here.
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #212 on: March 22, 2019, 09:38:47 AM »
How if the offensive and defensive lines shaping up for OSU?  I usually look first to those areas.  Fields should do fine, or perhaps better than that, if the OL is solid.  I presume there are good RBs aplenty.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #213 on: March 22, 2019, 09:54:24 AM »
How if the offensive and defensive lines shaping up for OSU?  I usually look first to those areas.  Fields should do fine, or perhaps better than that, if the OL is solid.  I presume there are good RBs aplenty.
OL is a little thin.  There will be some freshmen in the two-deep.  DL is not thin - returned a ton and should look really strong at starter and backup at each position.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #214 on: March 22, 2019, 11:02:56 AM »

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Ironic it's from the NFL but timely:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RobertKlemko/status/1108819810547191809
Sorry had this response in the wrong thread,let the NFL pay them because most Universities don't have the coin after paying for all the other sports expenses both men and women.If they had to be paid then most Colleges would have to schuddle athletics or get back to what they are there for in the 1st place.Either the NFL steps up or it needs to be drilled into their minds they are getting paid in form of education.Let Klemko pony up if he thinks it's such a smashing idea.
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #215 on: March 22, 2019, 11:31:08 AM »
Makes good sense from a purely football stand point, but c'mon. A rock star coach with a Conservative viewpoint who already has the fembots up his arse coaching at a place where sports routinely take a backseat to left wing politics? The man would have to be a glutton for punishment, which would also be out of character.
Except you've just described every university he's ever coached at as well. Universities with a rightward bend are significantly fewer and almost always private if not religious. OSU counts as leftward and Meyer liked that just fine.
I think the better glutton for punishment argument is that in the wake of the Zach Smith saga, Urban has a blemish that will be called out anywhere. It was even called out at OSU. And I suspect he thinks people should think purely positively about him and that's no longer guaranteed. He'll face that anywhere now, even ND.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #216 on: March 22, 2019, 11:38:14 AM »
Sorry had this response in the wrong thread,let the NFL pay them because most Universities don't have the coin after paying for all the other sports expenses both men and women.If they had to be paid then most Colleges would have to schuddle athletics or get back to what they are there for in the 1st place.Either the NFL steps up or it needs to be drilled into their minds they are getting paid in form of education.Let Klemko pony up if he thinks it's such a smashing idea.

I think that's a disproven perspective, Nubbz.
Zero realistic plans involve paying every athlete at Michigan a salary. And it's not against Title IX to pay revenue athletes more than nonrevenue athletes. Title IX doesn't oppose capitalism. People can and should be paid their market value. And if the NCAA permits schools to pay their players their market value, that means they'd only have to pay "the team that turn a profit" in proportion to the profit they turn. So only football, MBB, and at some schools also baseball and hockey.
But even that's not the best or most popular plan. We can do this without having the schools fork over a single cent. Just have the NCAA permit the players to independently gather money people want to give them for their name and likeness. EA sports wants your name on a character's jersey? You get paid. Some car dealer wants you in their commercial? Now you can do that ... and get paid.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #217 on: March 22, 2019, 11:45:09 AM »
Except you've just described every university he's ever coached at as well. Universities with a rightward bend are significantly fewer and almost always private if not religious. OSU counts as leftward and Meyer liked that just fine.
I think the better glutton for punishment argument is that in the wake of the Zach Smith saga, Urban has a blemish that will be called out anywhere. It was even called out at OSU. And I suspect he thinks people should think purely positively about him and that's no longer guaranteed. He'll face that anywhere now, even ND.
While Universities do have a tendency to be left leaning, there is abosuabsoly no comparison between a State school in the SE or Midwest to any school on the Left Coast. OSU would not allow Antifa to set up shop outside of his office, pelting him with bags of their own urine every time he walked by. The Cali schools would not only allow it, but make sure that they are well hydrated while they were doing it. If Urban coaches at USC or any other school on the Left coast.... I'll eat my hat.
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #218 on: March 22, 2019, 11:56:38 AM »
I don't want this to get political because then we lose the conversation. I easily disagree though. No university sets up shop for and hydrates violent criminals. That's pretty easy to acknowledge.
Plus, most Big Ten schools rival the Californians in leftleaningness. Plus-plus: USC (private) is significantly more conservative than Berkeley which you seem to be focusing on.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #219 on: March 22, 2019, 03:16:00 PM »
WR Blue Smith leaving the program

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #220 on: March 22, 2019, 03:41:19 PM »
I don't want this to get political because then we lose the conversation. I easily disagree though. No university sets up shop for and hydrates violent criminals. That's pretty easy to acknowledge.
Plus, most Big Ten schools rival the Californians in leftleaningness. Plus-plus: USC (private) is significantly more conservative than Berkeley which you seem to be focusing on.

Agreed that we don't need to hijack this thread with politics or Zach Smithery. Only time will tell which one of us is right, so we could always do another sign bet? I remain undefeated against you in those bad boys. Urban Meyer coaching at USC in 2020, you win. You in?
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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #221 on: March 22, 2019, 05:06:37 PM »
I can't take that bet because I don't think he'll ever coach again. So we agree on that part. I only popped in because I don't think political bend is the reason he won't coach again. Which is where we disagree. I think social criticism is the reason he won't coach again.

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #222 on: March 22, 2019, 05:07:24 PM »
WR Blue Smith leaving the program
Was he on scholarship? That's an incredible name I never knew.

Brutus Buckeye

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Re: 2019 Ohio State Offseason Thread
« Reply #223 on: March 22, 2019, 05:22:58 PM »
I can't take that bet because I don't think he'll ever coach again. So we agree on that part. I only popped in because I don't think political bend is the reason he won't coach again. Which is where we disagree. I think social criticism is the reason he won't coach again.
Okay if he doesn't coach again then the bet is obviously off. If he does coach in 2020 then I will give you the entire Pacific Time Zone. If the job that he takes is anywhere in betwixt San Diego St and Wazzou then you win the bet, including heavy favorite USC. If it is East of there, then victory is mine. Does that sweeten the deal? Or are ya some sorta Coward?
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