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847badgerfan

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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #140 on: October 18, 2019, 01:06:28 PM »
Gotta recruit good character as much as good talent.

Why were all those guys kicked off the team? What did they all do?
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #141 on: October 18, 2019, 01:29:34 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 18, 2019, 01:06:28 PM
Gotta recruit good character as much as good talent.

Why were all those guys kicked off the team? What did they all do?
Robertson was arrested for rape, I think he's been put away.

Corley, King and Vance were arrested for rape, but had a video showing consent, and so the charge was lowered to videoing the woman without her consent, but they weren't allowed back on the team.  I believe all 3 are playing again, Donnie Corley is at an FCS

Andrews was grades
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #142 on: October 18, 2019, 01:40:57 PM »
damn that looks like some Michigan recruiting classes towards the end of the LC era and some in the Rodriguez era. Missing on that many recruits and having that much attrition in a single class is devestating to a program. Definitely explains some of the struggles at MSU.
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #143 on: October 18, 2019, 03:48:39 PM »
Quote from: ELA on October 18, 2019, 12:56:58 PM
With the transfer of WR Cam Chambers because the whole law school/D1 football thing wasn't working, can anyone name a bigger disaster of a class than the MSU 2016 class ever?

It was ranked #17 overall, #3 in the Big Ten, and supposedly the culmination of the 3 year run of top 5 finishes from 2013-15.  The 2016 class is *probably* the most important class to the 2019 roster, comprising the true seniors and redshirt juniors.

Instead (by recruiting rank order), you have the following, with the bolded being the only ones still on the team

**** DE Josh King (#94) - kicked off team
**** DE Auston Robinson (#103) - kicked off team
**** WR Donnie Corley (#108) - kicked off team
**** WR Justin Layne (#179) - left early for NFL Draft
**** DT Naquan Jones (#224)
**** WR Trishton Jackson (#229) - transferred
**** WR Cam Chambers (#242) - transferred
**** S Demetric Vance (#243) - kicked off team
**** QB Messiah deWeaver (#245) - transferred
*** S Kenney Lyke (#350) - transferred
*** OLB Brandon Randle (#361) - transferred
*** OT Thyio Lukusa (#369) - transferred
*** DT Mike Panasiuk (#377)
*** TE Noah Davis (#599)
*** CB Austin Andrews (#715) - kicked off team
*** OT Luke Campbell (#743)
*** ILB Joe Bachie
*** OT A.J. Arcuri
*** OC Matt Allen
*** K Matt Coghlin

So out of the class that was supposed to end the problem of just having too much less talent than schools like Bama to ever compete for a national title, 10 of the top 11 rated commits didn't make it, and only 1 was because he left early for the draft.  Instead it wound up being the class that hampered MSU by giving us a dearth of 4th year players this year, and forcing us to pull too many redshirts in 2017.  If you re-rank the class with all of the removals/transferred removed (keeping the guy who left early for the draft), MSU falls from #17 overall/#3 Big Ten to #80 overall/#12 Big Ten.
Transfer portal.  RS junior TE who last had a catch in 2017.
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #144 on: October 18, 2019, 04:00:47 PM »
damn so that's only what- 5 actual football players- sorry Kickers- left from that MSU class? Ouch.
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #145 on: October 18, 2019, 04:13:04 PM »
Well, scholarship players.  They also had a walk on in Kenny Willikes who panned out ok
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #146 on: October 18, 2019, 04:24:26 PM »
Very much similar to UW's 2014 and 2015 classes, which caught up to them last season. I mean, they weren't bad kids (except one), but many just didn't pan out for one reason or another. Thanks, Gerry...
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #147 on: October 18, 2019, 11:08:42 PM »
that's recruiting

most kids never start
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #148 on: October 31, 2019, 04:00:47 PM »
Hey, at least MSU's season can't go any farther off the rails...


https://twitter.com/chrissolari/status/1189986608315084802
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #149 on: October 31, 2019, 04:24:24 PM »
Probably a LB tradition. 

Bullough was roided up as well. 

I wonder how often they test these guys, because many thought Vernon Davis and Shawne Merriman were juicing way back when.

I think Shawne tested positive while in the NFL. 
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #150 on: October 31, 2019, 04:27:27 PM »
My guess had always been that a significant portion do.  Only the dumb ones get caught.
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #151 on: October 31, 2019, 06:21:42 PM »
Damn hope they get things straightened out in E.L.It's better when Sparty is salty

HA! one M fan replied Couches are not the only thing burning in East Lansing.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2019, 06:29:17 PM by MrNubbz »
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #152 on: November 05, 2019, 04:39:18 PM »
FWIW, one of The Athletic writers saying on his Podcast Bachie's PED was Adderall
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Re: 2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread
« Reply #153 on: November 07, 2019, 01:21:55 PM »
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