2020 Michigan State Offseason Thread

[FearlessF]

not this elder

I still understand that 17 year olds know nothing

[847badgerfan]

Scroll up about 5 posts

I knew I wasn't nuts. Just a little memory challenged.

[CWSooner]

That's because you're too old to matter.

And I am too, even more so.

[ELA]

I don't even love these, but they are better.  I do like the white helmet with the green script State, to play off the basketball jerseys


https://twitter.com/dwyerse3/status/1159276405584277510


https://twitter.com/dwyerse3/status/1159437320849952768

[Mdot21]

Nike/Adidas/Under Armour have to be stopped.

[CWSooner]

Nike/Adidas/Under Armour have to be stopped.

Amen!

[MrNubbz]

17-year-old boys know nothing.
Once upon a time, everybody else knew that, and elders passed their hard-earned wisdom and knowledge down to the young.
Now it's the opposite.  Elders try to stay young by adopting the stupidity and attitude of the young knuckleheads.

Ya sound like a crochety old codger yelling "get off my lawn" - but you're not wrong

[FearlessF]

crochety old codgers cannot stop Nike

[MrNubbz]

Sure they can Admn's can say no thanks to those abortions called uniforms

[FearlessF]

but, they can't say no thanks to the $$$

and the Coaches can't say no thanks to the recruits

[Anonymous Coward]

I am not convinced recruits authentically like these uggo jerseys. It could just be a lie we tell ourselves to explain why we let Nike/AD duos nip away at our sport's traditional aesthetics. 

I also don't think we can address that question by asking MSU players and recruits. They are like anyone associated with a football team. Recruiting is a political machine that feeds off of positivity-to-a-fault towards one's school. I have to imagine it'd be common to lie for your school about this kind of stuff. 

If you want to know how "recruits" genuinely feel about ugly jerseys, then you have to ask players and recruits associated with other conferences.

[ELA]

I am not convinced recruits authentically like these uggo jerseys. I also don't think we can address that question by asking MSU players and recruits. They are part of a machine whose politics feeds off of positivity-to-a-fault towards one's school. If you want to know how "recruits" genuinely feel about ugly jerseys, then you have to ask players and recruits associated with other conferences.

I will say, when they unveiled these via Twitter back in April, a lot of the likes and retweets came from MSU recruiting targets.

I do think they by and large like them.

I personally wonder long term what this is doing for brand identity, or if anyone has even studied that?  Trading short term jersey sales, for long term brand awareness hits.

And who knows, MSU wore those terrible basketball jerseys against Maryland a few years ago, everyone hated them, and we never saw them again.  I've seen fans in every alternate jersey MSU has ever worn...except those.  So whether there is a recruiting bump or not, Nike doesn't care if the jersey doesn't sell.  My guess is that the reason the neon green jerseys never returned, wasn't because a bunch of 35+ year old fans didn't like them, but because they didn't sell.  If these don't sell, I'm guessing they go away too.

[Anonymous Coward]

I edited my post while you were typing yours. I think it's easy to underestimate the extent to which players/commits/coaches will either lie for their school about a jersey being cool or the extent to which their passion for their school will make them like anything, even if it falls far outside their personal aesthetic, and even if they'd hate it elsewhere. 

If you want an unbiased "what recruits think" take on an MSU jersey ... ask kids at Louisville, University of New Mexico, and Washington. Don't ask kids at MSU, or anywhere within the conference for that matter.

[ELA]

I am not convinced recruits authentically like these uggo jerseys. It could just be a lie we tell ourselves to explain why we let Nike/AD duos nip away at our sport's traditional aesthetics.

Nike has no personal interest in changing for the sake of changing.  Hell, it would cheaper for them to have fewer jerseys.  They do this to sell new jerseys, new shoes, new gloves, and if people didn't like them, they wouldn't sell, and Nike would stop.