2019-2020 NFL Thread

[MrNubbz]

Woah, Andrew Luck retiring

Ticket holders can't be happy

[ELA]

It's interesting how surprising things like this are to people. Dude made a $100MM. From one perspective, this is like retiring from road construction after winning the lottery. That job is continually hard on one's body. You'd have to *really* love it (and the fame - ok the analogy isn't perfect) to keep going after cashing in such a big ticket.

Well, and also he's giving up another $50 million.  And he's a QB in a league that increasingly prevents them from getting hurt.  I think being an MLB catcher (and certainly a construction worker) is probably harder on your body than being a QB.

[MarqHusker]

He's also not a cattle.  At some point playing football has to suck.

[Mdot21]

Well, and also he's giving up another $50 million.  And he's a QB in a league that increasingly prevents them from getting hurt.  I think being an MLB catcher (and certainly a construction worker) is probably harder on your body than being a QB.

Not sure I buy that at all. QBs still take monster hits. It’s still HARD on the body. They just aren’t allowed to get murdered like they used to so now everyone thinks it’s so easy and they don’t get hit at all. It ain’t. And they do.

I never got the feeling that Luck was a guy like Brady or Manning or Favre that truly loves the game and everything that goes with it. He just happened to be great at playing football. His body was breaking down, he’s got tons of loot and a degree from Stanford. He can do anything he wants in life, so he probably just figured you know what, F this I don’t need this crap anymore.

Luck leaves the game as maybe the most overrated/over-hyped player with nothing to show for his career maybe ever. This was a guy the Colts cut Peyton Manning for and was the greatest QB prospect according to everyone since John Elway. He played only 7 years, missed tons of games with injuries and never won jack.

[bayareabadger]

Well, and also he's giving up another $50 million.  And he's a QB in a league that increasingly prevents them from getting hurt.  I think being an MLB catcher (and certainly a construction worker) is probably harder on your body than being a QB.

The NFL might be trying to prevent him from getting hurt, but he's had all this by 29.


https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1165440454927814656?s=20

[MrNubbz]

I never got the feeling that Luck was a guy like Brady or Manning or Favre that truly loves the game and everything that goes with it. He just happened to be great at playing football. His body was breaking down, he’s got tons of loot and a degree from Stanford. He can do anything he wants in life, so he probably just figured you know what, F this I don’t need this crap anymore.

This he's set for life,not happy with the1st 5-10 million then get counseling

[Mdot21]

Patriots starting center David Andrews probably done for the year with blood clots in his lungs. That's a huge blow to New England. They lost their starting LT from last year to the Raiders in F/A, they lost one of the best blocking TE's the NFL has ever seen in Gronk to retirement, and now they lose their best OL for the season in Andrews.

At least they are getting Josh Gordon back and they drafted N'Keal Harry. Big IF there, but if Gordon can stay clean the passing offense should go up another notch. Gordon will command the attention on the outside and Eldeman will command the attention in the slot, could be a great opportunity for Harry to really excel as a #3 WR as a rookie. As long as the threat of Gordon on the outside is there and as long as Eldeman is doing his typical damage in the slot- teams are going to bracket those guys and Harry should have 1-on-1's all day long.

[MrNubbz]

Oh gosh N.E.might start swirling drain let me get my hankee

[Mdot21]

Oh gosh N.E.might start swirling drain let me get my hankee

Lol. It's just crazy to me. They go through so much roster turnover and deal with so many injuries- and yet they wind up in the Super Bowl every freaking year.

[MrNubbz]

All things being equal when you have one of the best HC/QB combinations in history a lot of things can be overcome.Cleveland thru the years have at least as many injuries,coupled with crappy drafts you get what we got

[FearlessF]

Oh gosh N.E.might start swirling drain let me get my hankee

the Chefs fans might have hope

[Mdot21]

the Chefs fans might have hope

Chiefs lost their leading rusher in Kareem Hunt and their defense probably still sucks. I know they got Frank Clark- and he'll definitely help- he's had double digit sacks 3 straight years and is only going into his 5th season so he's still right smack in the thick of his prime.

Their other defensive pick-ups really don't move the needle at all.Tyrann Mathieu is one of the most over-hyped/overrated defensive players I think I've ever seen. He's nothing more than an above average starting safety. Pales in comparison to Eric Berry- who the Chiefs let ago. I understand why they let him go- he's not the same player anymore- but at his best he made Mathieu look mediocre. Mathieu is not that type of player.

The Chiefs other big F/A signings were back-up players and former 1st round busts. Morris Claiborne and Darron Lee were 1st round draft busts that struggled on teams that played good defense. Not sure those guys can even play. If they couldn't look good playing for good defenses and good defensive coaching staffs- what the hell makes anyone think they can play for a shit-show like the Chiefs defense? The Chiefs also only had 3 picks in the first 3 rounds- and they stupidly used their first pick- which was in the 2nd round- on a WR/PR/KR. Their other 2nd round pick was a Safety from Virginia and their 3rd round pick was a DT from Western Michigan. Their F/A signings were very blah as well.

Also- I think Mahomes is due for a slump year. Every QB in history that has thrown for 4,500+ and 40+ had a down year the very next year. Every single one. I don't think he will be any different.

I'm just not buying the Chiefs. I'm selling that stock.

[FearlessF]

I'm 4 hours north of KC, in the thick of Chiefs territory

ya can't talk logically with them - they're in a frenzy

[Mdot21]

I'm 4 hours north of KC, in the thick of Chiefs territory

ya can't talk logically with them - they're in a frenzy

you can't throw for 50 TD's and 5,000 yards every year. Just doesn't happen. They had Kareem Hunt last year for 12 games before he got into trouble and got booted off the team. Going 4 games without him is one thing. Replacing him for all 16? Mahomes had the luxury of playing with an elite RB. Not going to have that anymore, and he's going to be hard to replace during that regular season. Sometimes the passing game is just off the mark and you need to be able to hand it off and let the RB churn out a W with his legs and controlling the clock. Can't do that anymore. 

And their defense is going to really suck. Again. Not going anywhere but home with a defense that shitty.