Max is obviously a moronthat show is ridiculous. Format is basically let's see which jagoff can take turns saying the most outlandish shit. ESPN is dead.
shouldn't have a job
no idea how they get ratingssame way the cable news networks do.
sooner or later it will workIt’ll never work, because the team hiring the BB assistant doesn’t get to bring Bill & Tom with him to the new team.
just odds
It’ll never work, because the team hiring the BB assistant doesn’t get to bring Bill & Tom with him to the new team.If you say it'll never work, you must be assuming that BB only hires people who are so flawed that they don't even have the aptitude to be a successful head coach. Perhaps that he is such a micromanager that he surrounds himself with yes-men who execute what he wants but cannot be self-directed and with enough of a spine to actually lead. That BB is such an egomaniac that he can't surround himself with anyone that's a threat to his own job.
If you say it'll never work, you must be assuming that BB only hires people who are so flawed that they don't even have the aptitude to be a successful head coach. Perhaps that he is such a micromanager that he surrounds himself with yes-men who execute what he wants but cannot be self-directed and with enough of a spine to actually lead. That BB is such an egomaniac that he can't surround himself with anyone that's a threat to his own job.Or you could say the system is so well ingrained that it covers deficiencies to the point that his assistants don't necessarily learn when they make mistakes, because they aren't obvious; or they falsely learn that, while that maybe didn't go exactly according to plan, it still worked.
You know, maybe these BB coaching tree failures are starting to make sense...
Or you could say the system is so well ingrained that it covers deficiencies to the point that his assistants don't necessarily learn when they make mistakes, because they aren't obvious; or they falsely learn that, while that maybe didn't go exactly according to plan, it still worked.But unless he hires inherently flawed people, it's wrong to say hiring a BB assistant will "never work". It might just mean that something about BB's system is less likely to train people to excel at the next level, but not that it will "never" happen.
But overall, I agree, to get to the point of being an NFL assistant you have to have at least a certain coaching aptitude, that you'd figure at some point. I think Bill O'Brien would have Penn State in better shape than they currently are had he remained in Happy Valley.
It’ll never work, because the team hiring the BB assistant doesn’t get to bring Bill & Tom with him to the new team.The odds of a new coach panning out never literally zero-point-zero percent. So, given infinite tries, it has to work out eventually. But I will grant you that the odds seem so low that it's not worth trying.
However, malignant narcissists who get into positions of power often do try to surround themselves with non-threatening subordinates, and I was making a joke that this might describe BB. In truth, I don't believe that, because usually in competitive environments those teams end up suffering, whereas the Patriots are succeeding.Yeah, you see that more in failed totalitarian states than with NFL teams.
But unless he hires inherently flawed people, it's wrong to say hiring a BB assistant will "never work". It might just mean that something about BB's system is less likely to train people to excel at the next level, but not that it will "never" happen.BB was a failed head coach himself before coming to the Patriots. His Cleveland career was a disaster. And his first 18 games in New England with Drew Bledsoe as his starting QB he wasn't looking much better- 5-13 and on the hotseat. Bledsoe takes a killshot to the ribs from Moe Lewis and the rest is history as they say.
To say it will never happen would only be fair if BB actively selects coaches who don't have aptitude. Which goes against pretty much every hiring strategy I've ever heard of, where you hire the best people you can get your hands on because they make your team stronger.
However, malignant narcissists who get into positions of power often do try to surround themselves with non-threatening subordinates, and I was making a joke that this might describe BB. In truth, I don't believe that, because usually in competitive environments those teams end up suffering, whereas the Patriots are succeeding.
New Orleans Saints WR Michael Thomas signs a 5 year extension that will make him the highest paid WR in the NFL. Kinda shocking to me. I think he's a hell of a receiver, but I wouldn't pay him more than AJ Green or Julio Jones or DeAndre Hopkins if I was an Owner/GM. I'd tell him you ain't as good as them- so you don't deserve that kind of money.Eh, I'd rather have Thomas than Green, with Green's recent injury troubles. Missed 6 games in 2016, 7 in 2018, and is now out 2 months to begin 2019.
BB is a huge part of that teams success. Obviously. But the NFL game is all about the QB. If you don't have one- forget it. You aren't winning jack. And BB has had the very fortunate luxury of parterning with inarguably the greatest QB of all-time for the last 20 years or something like that.Mostly that's true but a few years back Denver's defense won the SB.Manning was hardly serviceable.He looked like he was throwing a shot put - it really was that evident.And to make matters worse Peyton right after the game turns into a Budweiser shill.
New Orleans Saints WR Michael Thomas signs a 5 year extension that will make him the highest paid WR in the NFL. Kinda shocking to me. I think he's a hell of a receiver, but I wouldn't pay him more than AJ Green or Julio Jones or DeAndre Hopkins if I was an Owner/GM. I'd tell him you ain't as good as them- so you don't deserve that kind of money.2018 Thomas had the most receptions - 125,also had the highest catch % @ 85.So he's definitely in that discussion
Mostly that's true but a few years back Denver's defense won the SB.Manning was hardly serviceable.He looked like he was throwing a shot put - it really was that evident.And to make matters worse Peyton right after the game turns into a Budweiser shill.True. But defenses like that are rare now a days. That Denver defense was All-Time great that season.
2018 Thomas had the most receptions - 125,also had the highest catch % @ 85.So he's definitely in that discussionhe's really good, obviously, not knocking him. He also only averages 11.8 YPC for his career and doesn't get in the end-zone all that much. Those other WR's I named average around 15 YPC. And none of them play with QB's remotely as good as Drew Brees. Poor AJ Green has been stuck playing with a shitty ginger on a terrible team and Hopkins has been in QB hell in Houston until Deshaun Watson came in and had a nice flash of brilliance as a rookie before getting hurt. Matt Ryan is OK. I guess. Never been a fan. Julio is the best in the game imo. He's like a mini-Calvin Johnson. Mini-Megatron.
Correct Julio Jones is exciting as hell but has a reception % of 66.5 .You better have a high avg per catch if you're missing some strikesthat catch Julio made on the sideline in the Super Bowl should've won the Falcons that game. Put them in FG range and a FG there probably ices the game. Still one of the most ridiculous catches I've ever seen. If only Matt Ryan didn't take a sack and push the Falcons out of FG range on the very next play......
I hope the Sunday League folds,enough I'm paying much higher beer prices because of shit like this.Really don't know how a fella can limp by on 10 Mil. nowadaysWell, cost of living is higher in LA than San Diego...
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/08/browns-baker-mayfield-chugs-beer-indians (https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/08/browns-baker-mayfield-chugs-beer-indians)I shake my head and LMAO at the same time!
Hope he's this generations Favre - please lord just once before I'm gonecrazy as it sounds, he could wind up being better than Favre. Favre never had this kind of fire power at his disposal. Sterling Sharpe would've been an all-time great WR but his career was cut short by injury. Other than that, the Packers never really gave Favre the kind of weapons that Baker will get to play with for the foreseeable future.
crazy as it sounds, he could wind up being better than Favre.Hope you're right - you get a Yuengling
Farve and Romo had some similarities... Their highs were high, but their lows were low. Farve could win you football games nearly single-handedly, but he could [and would] occasionally also lose them for you. And that type of variance tends to look good in the regular season but hurts in single-elimination playoff scenario. Farve managed to get a ring, while Romo did not, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.Idk why I forgot to mention Brees, he's right up there with Peyton and Brady. I'd certainly put all 3 of those guys well above Favre.
Farve holds [by far] the record for most interceptions thrown in a career. And it's true, he has a LOT of pass attempts, but it doesn't scale linearly. Drew Brees today has only about 4% fewer career pass attempts than Favre, but has over 100 fewer interceptions thrown. Nobody on a roster today looks like they'll have a chance of catching Favre's interception record.
Idk why I forgot to mention Brees, he's right up there with Peyton and Brady. I'd certainly put all 3 of those guys well above Favre.Farve and Romo?
Favre and Romo are a great comparison. Romo was like Favre Light. Or Diet Favre. Whatever you want to call it.
As a Browns fan that suxI wouldn't worry too much. I think the Steelers might win the division this year on the back of Big Ben, but their reign at the top of the AFC North is about over, because Big Ben doesn't have much left in the tank imo. Also: I'm not a believer in the Ravens with Lamar Jackson running the ball 18 times a game at QB. He will get broken in half if they try to keep running him like that.
Just No one bad move and a lot of coin is wrapped up in nothingif I was the Browns GM/owner, I'd throw my hat into that Clowney ring.
Woah, Andrew Luck retiringTicket holders can't be happy
It's interesting how surprising things like this are to people. Dude made a $100MM. From one perspective, this is like retiring from road construction after winning the lottery. That job is continually hard on one's body. You'd have to *really* love it (and the fame - ok the analogy isn't perfect) to keep going after cashing in such a big ticket.Well, and also he's giving up another $50 million. And he's a QB in a league that increasingly prevents them from getting hurt. I think being an MLB catcher (and certainly a construction worker) is probably harder on your body than being a QB.
Well, and also he's giving up another $50 million. And he's a QB in a league that increasingly prevents them from getting hurt. I think being an MLB catcher (and certainly a construction worker) is probably harder on your body than being a QB.Not sure I buy that at all. QBs still take monster hits. It’s still HARD on the body. They just aren’t allowed to get murdered like they used to so now everyone thinks it’s so easy and they don’t get hit at all. It ain’t. And they do.
Well, and also he's giving up another $50 million. And he's a QB in a league that increasingly prevents them from getting hurt. I think being an MLB catcher (and certainly a construction worker) is probably harder on your body than being a QB.The NFL might be trying to prevent him from getting hurt, but he's had all this by 29.
I never got the feeling that Luck was a guy like Brady or Manning or Favre that truly loves the game and everything that goes with it. He just happened to be great at playing football. His body was breaking down, he’s got tons of loot and a degree from Stanford. He can do anything he wants in life, so he probably just figured you know what, F this I don’t need this crap anymore.This he's set for life,not happy with the1st 5-10 million then get counseling
Oh gosh N.E.might start swirling drain let me get my hankeeLol. It's just crazy to me. They go through so much roster turnover and deal with so many injuries- and yet they wind up in the Super Bowl every freaking year.
Oh gosh N.E.might start swirling drain let me get my hankeethe Chefs fans might have hope
the Chefs fans might have hopeChiefs lost their leading rusher in Kareem Hunt and their defense probably still sucks. I know they got Frank Clark- and he'll definitely help- he's had double digit sacks 3 straight years and is only going into his 5th season so he's still right smack in the thick of his prime.
I'm 4 hours north of KC, in the thick of Chiefs territoryyou can't throw for 50 TD's and 5,000 yards every year. Just doesn't happen. They had Kareem Hunt last year for 12 games before he got into trouble and got booted off the team. Going 4 games without him is one thing. Replacing him for all 16? Mahomes had the luxury of playing with an elite RB. Not going to have that anymore, and he's going to be hard to replace during that regular season. Sometimes the passing game is just off the mark and you need to be able to hand it off and let the RB churn out a W with his legs and controlling the clock. Can't do that anymore.
ya can't talk logically with them - they're in a frenzy
Nice write up Grover - hope you're wrong though.They still have Tyreek Hill,who if he moved in next to me I'd shoot 'em immediately - preemptive strikeThey still have firepower on offense and they'll have a great offense, but the offense won't be record setting like it was last season. It'll come back down to earth a little bit. And the defense will still suck. And Andy Reid has proven yet again he's all flash and no hardware. Great coach at padding stats and winning the regular season. Terrible coach at winning in the post-season when it matters.
I think Jackson could be great this year. He played well as a rook, and now the game might have slowed down as he's gotten real NFL experience.He played pretty good for a rookie. But he only completed 58% and only threw 6 TD's. And he threw the ball only about 22 times a game and he ran it 18 times a game in the 7 games he started. He's going to get killed if he keeps running it 18 times a game over the course of a 16 game season. They went 6-1 in those 7 games, but that was in large part because of that phenomenal defense.
He played pretty good for a rookie. But he only completed 58% and only threw 6 TD's. And he threw the ball only about 22 times a game and he ran it 18 times a game in the 7 games he started. He's going to get killed if he keeps running it 18 times a game over the course of a 16 game season. They went 6-1 in those 7 games, but that was in large part because of that phenomenal defense.The biggest thing to me is that I think he showed QB skills at this level. Ability to read defenses. Ability to keep his eyes up while scrambling and continue looking for a pass rather than just tucking and running. Ability to make tough throws.
I just don't see enough from him as a passer and I think if they keep running him that much he's going to get hurt. It's a matter of when, not if. He should be picking his spots and running 5-8 times a game max. Not 18. That's WAY too much in the NFL. He will get hurt.
It takes a lot to be the worst draft pick in Lions history (considering when taken), but Teez Tabor fits the bill. Absolute waste of a 2nd round pick, now cut after 2 years. The more things change, the more they stay the same.Is there a team that drafts worse than the Lions? They wasted the career of the greatest talent at RB that I’ve ever seen AND the career of the 2nd greatest talent at WR behind Moss that I’ve ever seen.
I feel like the Dolphins, who are copying the Browns 25 year plan, would have given the Texans Tunsil plus Stills for a 3rd round pick and a used copy of Game of Thrones season 2 but O'Brien insisted on sending them their entire draft.Meh. I don't know. Stills is an OK receiver, nothing special. Really solid #2 or #3 guy. Tunsil was the real gem of that trade. He's an excellent young tackle with a hugely bright future and the Texans' OL was trash and Hopkin's running-mate at WR- Will Fuller is always hurt. The trade was defintiely a win in the here and now for the Texans who are in win now mode. And those two players weren't helping Miami win jackshit anytime soon. Miami is in full rebuild mode. As they should be. That team and that roster sucks. I like what both teams did honestly.
Tunsil is good and so is Stills and Houston needs them. However, I'm sure they could have offered a lot less given. The Dolphins were the more desperate team given that Tunsil and Sills could help them win which is absolutely what the Dolphins are trying to no do.Ever since they basically removed padded contact from training camp, the run games suck to start the year, because it's impossible to practice run blocking with the current limitations so the lines are lost
Meanwhile the Bears and Packers combined to rush for less than 100 yards and about a 2.8 avg/carry. Maybe just maybe running backs are kinda important and you just can't get by w/ a bunch of scrubs.
I don’t know, man. I kinda think maybe you still can. The last SB champion to have the league rushing leader was Denver back in 1998 with Terrell Davis.
Meanwhile the Bears and Packers combined to rush for less than 100 yards and about a 2.8 avg/carry. Maybe just maybe running backs are kinda important and you just can't get by w/ a bunch of scrubs.
after watching the Bears/Packers, I have hope as a Viking fanYou can say that again. Tribusky sucks.
I had money on Da Bears! That QB is garbage.
Rodgers didn't look good either, but obviously not garbage
Rodgers didn't look good either, but obviously not garbageRodgers was going up against an elite defense though. On the road at night running a new offense. That’s a tough task for any QB. Even a great QB like him. Bears have a FILTHY defense. Maybe best in the league. Top 2 or 3 at worst. I think the Packers defense will be better than last year, but it won’t be anywhere near elite like the Bears’ defense is.
Antonio Brown kiss 30 mil per goodbye you entitled little twat waffleHe’s an idiot.
He's never been the same since taking that dirty hit from Burfict. It isn't going to end wellHe’s an ego maniac that was drafted in the 6th rd. Hard to have an ego when you’re a no one. Soon as he became a star his true colors stated to show.
He's never been the same since taking that dirty hit from Burfict. It isn't going to end wellI dunno Brown's stats didn't seem to slow down just his big mouth did that
I dunno Brown's stats didn't seem to slow down just his big mouth did thatHuh?
He missed the next game in the concussion protocol,but he still walked off.Every game line man bang heads continuously.Ya he got his bell wrung but he wasn't forgetting routes/assignments and he had scans at the time so I'm not buyin' just that hitMe either.
I don’t know, man. I kinda think maybe you still can. The last SB champion to have the league rushing leader was Denver back in 1998 with Terrell Davis.
Since then there have been 20 Super Bowl champions. Only 4 of them have even had a back finish in the Top 10 in rushing.
Marshall Faulk for the Rams in 1999
Jamal Lewis for the Ravens in 2000
Corey Dillion for the Patriots in 2004
Marshawn Lynch for the Seahawks in 2013
I mean sure you don't need one if you have Brady and Belechick. Even the Pats best teams had Dillon. You run into a good defensive team in the playoffs though, the refs let a lot more contact happen and if you are too one dimensional you are sunk.
Tom Brady has a new WRI called it lol.
you called itI have a feeling it will.
let's see if it works
I called it lol.So did I told my friends after he posted for the Raiders to let him go.Didn't think BB would actually bite though,should have figured with Moss & Gordon though.How much did Brown screw himself out of?Evidently Brown's agent Drew Rosenhaus went all in smoothing things over with the Raiders before Assholio started up again
I'm hoping he learned his lessonWell he's just an A-hole - and the NFL employs them in Aces - not illegal.
So did I told my friends after he posted for the Raiders to let him go.Didn't think BB would actually bite though,should have figured with Moss & Gordon though.How much did Brown screw himself out of?Evidently Brown's agent Drew Rosenhaus went all in smoothing things over with the Raiders before Assholio started up againHe will make up to $15 mil this year if he reaches all his incentives. He’s guaranteed $9 million just for signing his name and he’ll get $1 million for the year- so $10 million is basically his. The other $5 million will be if he hits certain #’s and makes Pro Bowl and all that bs. Which he absolutely should and could do if he falls in line and stops acting like a psycho.
I'm unfazed,really I am - the Browns and Indians beat it out of me decades agoYelled and screamed during the game. Game over, life goes on. The realty of being a Browns fan since 1967.
Barkley,Zeke,Gurley even Mixon had 1100 yds.He's not so much better the others have at or around a 5yd avgThose other guys have so much more around them. Barkley has nothing. The QB is trash. The OL is trash. The WRs are mediocre. It’s all Barkley or bust. He does more on his own than any other RB in the game. He is so obviously superior to every other RB in the game. He does things none of them can do. He’s the best. By far.
Lions suck. Struggling with a crap team in Arizona. Kyler Murray looks like a huge bust in the making. He just doesn’t have it to play at this level imo. . . .That's an amazing judgment considering that he was in the middle of his first real NFL game, and that QB is probably the hardest position for a rookie to take on and excel.
That's an amazing judgment considering that he was in the middle of his first real NFL game, and that QB is probably the hardest position for a rookie to take on and excel.I saw all I needed to see. The Lions suck ass and are a joke and are coached by a literal clown. Doesn’t surprise me they shit the bed up 24-6 in the 4th QTR and let Murray come back for the tie. That’s just so Detroit Lions. It’s who they are.
He had a good 4th quarter and the team rallied from being way down to tie. What counts more, the first three quarters he played in the NFL or the fourth one? I certainly don't know, but it might be the latter choice.
Lions suck. Struggling with a crap team in Arizona. Kyler Murray looks like a huge bust in the making. He just doesn’t have it to play at this level imo.On the bright side, TJ Hockenson is a stud in the making.
Saquon Barkley is so much better than every RB in the NFL it’s a joke. Reminds me of Barry back in the 90s. Just so clearly to superior to everyone else.
On the bright side, TJ Hockenson is a stud in the making.He looks phenomenal. Better than I hoped he was. Looks like a guy that will be a perennial Pro Bowler every year and have a shot at the HOF if he stays healthy. *KNOCKS ON WOOD*
Love to be a lifetime member of the Reserve/Taxi Squad today.Make a much better than average salary,travel,meet plenty of folks,don't get dinged up and have a nice little nest egg - yup hard to feel sorry for any of them
I'd feel the same way about Matt Stafford- but that dude has made like $250 million plus- so hard to feel sorry for someone with that much loot.
god damn do the Pats look good. This is without N’Keal Harry, Demarius Thomas, and Antonio Brown. It’s not going to be fair when they get all them back.
17-0 on the Steelers in a flash. Does any player own another team as badly as Brady owns the Steelers? Seems like he just destroys them every time he plays them.
The Steelers have a couple wins against him. Brady is like 6-0 or 7-0 against Rivers's Chargers. I don't think he ever lost to Rodgers either (small sample size).I just looked it up.
To my knowledge the only teams in the NFL that have given Brady fits are the Ravens and the Dolphins at Miami. The Giants almost a decade ago would play well against them as well.
Antonio Brown accused of rape by his former female sports trainer. He met her in college, and they were friends for years before it got sexual according to the girl. She filed a civil suit in the state of Florida (where Brown is from). She hasn't gone to the police and tried to have him charged with sexual assault. Looks like she's just suing him for money. That's just weird. I'm pretty sure the Pats already knew this was coming.It can be unusual, but it makes a hell of a lot of sense. Going the criminal route means she has to go through all the same bullshit but doesn't get any money at the end.
It can be unusual, but it makes a hell of a lot of sense. Going the criminal route means she has to go through all the same bullshit but doesn't get any money at the end.Yeah, I don't know. If someone raped you, wouldn't you want to put them in jail? She's going to go through the bullshit regardless. Might as well put him in jail and THEN sue in ciivl court and get the money. That option is always going to be there.
Also, it's not like I'm giving Antonio Brown the benefit of the doubt for pretty much anything.
Yeah, I don't know. If someone raped you, wouldn't you want to put them in jail? She's going to go through the bullshit regardless. Might as well put him in jail and THEN sue in ciivl court and get the money. That option is always going to be there.I dunno - if my choices were someone would possibly (but probably unlikely) be in jail or I'd likely get 6-7 figures, I'd probably choose the latter. Who wouldn't?
EDIT: it sounds like the incidents happened in 2017 and 2018- and she never went and filed a police report or went to a hospital and had a rape kit done. She hired a lawyer and went to have lie detector tests done. That raises immediate red-bullshit-flags to me. Still have to wait for everything to come out- but if that is true- then her case doesn't pass the smell test to me.
Double EDIT: I don't think he should be suspended/cut or put on the commissioners exemption list. This is a civil case- not a criminal one- and who knows if it's even legit. The guy has acted like a clown with the Steelers and the Raiders- but that doesn't mean he's a rapist.
I dunno - if my choices were someone would possibly (but probably unlikely) be in jail or I'd likely get 6-7 figures, I'd probably choose the latter. Who wouldn't?She could always sue in civil court after the criminal case is finished. That option isn't ever going to just go away. And the standard for evidence in civil court is so much lower than it is in criminal court. Even if she lost the criminal case- she could still win the civil or force a settlement with Brown just to make the case go away and Brown to get on with his life. Celebs/powerful people and their insurance companies do this all the time. Just settle civil cases to make them go away.
She could always sue in civil court after the criminal case is finished. That option isn't ever going to just go away. And the standard for evidence in civil court is so much lower than it is in criminal court. Even if she lost the criminal case- she could still win the civil or force a settlement with Brown just to make the case go away and Brown to get on with his life. Celebs/powerful people and their insurance companies do this all the time. Just settle civil cases to make them go away.She can always sure later but it's a lot easier to get a lot of money while he still has a lot of it. Honestly, I think going through the criminal justice system on this is Stupid with a capital S. She got some good advice from her lawyer.
My guess is she doesn't want to have to get cross examined in criminal court and watch her entire case get ripped apart. Huge red flags to me. She doesn't file a police report or go to a hospital to get a rape kit. She hires a lawyer and takes lie detector tests. Makes total sense. Not.
speaking of sexual cases, criminals, lawyers, and the Patriots........The State appealed the decision which essentially threw out all their evidence - no idea when that would be heard.
when does Robert Craft go to trial?
speaking of sexual cases, criminals, lawyers, and the Patriots........He wasn’t charged with sexual assault.
when does Robert Craft go to trial?
Antonio Brown accused of rape by his former female sports trainer. He met her in college, and they were friends for years before it got sexual according to the girl. She filed a civil suit in the state of Florida (where Brown is from). She hasn't gone to the police and tried to have him charged with sexual assault. Looks like she's just suing him for money. That's just weird. I'm pretty sure the Pats already knew this was coming.This is not weird or all that unusual, simply not a high volume scenario. I also think you're giving the Pats the benefit of the doubt.
This is not weird or all that unusual, simply not a high volume scenario. I also think you're giving the Pats the benefit of the doubt.Heard Schefter or one of the other talking heads say this morning the Pats were actually unaware of the lawsuit until the news broke.
Miami Dolphins trade one of their few above average players left on their roster in Minkah Fitzpatrick to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Talk about giving up on this season. Miami is trading away everyone for draft picks lol.I don't hate a contender giving up a 1st round pick for him. But the Steelers aren't contending for anything this year. So not only did they trade future for present for no reason, but that could very well wind up being a top 10 pick. If like the Chiefs did it, then, ok, they are trying to win right now, while Mahomes is on his rookie contract, and either way that is probably going to be at best like the #28 pick.
I like the trade for Miami. The Steelers gave up a 1st rd pick. Fitzpatrick isn’t worth a 1st rd pick. He’s slightly above average at best. If you can get a 1st for him- you take it. Smart move by the Dolphins. Desperate move and a reach by the Steelers. And that pick will be a high one for Miami- cause the Steelers defense sucks and they just lost Big Ben for the season to elbow surgery.
I don't hate a contender giving up a 1st round pick for him. But the Steelers aren't contending for anything this year. So not only did they trade future for present for no reason, but that could very well wind up being a top 10 pick. If like the Chiefs did it, then, ok, they are trying to win right now, while Mahomes is on his rookie contract, and either way that is probably going to be at best like the #28 pick.Exactly.
why pay too much for a CORNERback, when your greatest need is a QUARTERback?great point. I wouldn't tank for Tua. I have doubts he'll even be a serviceable NFL QB.
I don't hate a contender giving up a 1st round pick for him. But the Steelers aren't contending for anything this year. So not only did they trade future for present for no reason, but that could very well wind up being a top 10 pick. If like the Chiefs did it, then, ok, they are trying to win right now, while Mahomes is on his rookie contract, and either way that is probably going to be at best like the #28 pick.Good now the Squeelers are starting to make ignorant moves like the Puds in the Browns Front Office performed with distressing frequency for years....and years
Eli Manning benched for Daniel Jones. Eli has had one of the weirdest QB careers in the NFL ever. If not for his last name I doubt he's the #1 overall pick in 2004. Talk about one of the most average QB's ever who happened to fall into a pile of shit and come out smelling like roses. Aside from the two miraculous playoff runs where he inexplicably beat Tom Brady and the Pats in the Super Bowl twice- Eli has pretty much been complete ass for his entire career.Jim Plunkett just said, “Hold my beer.”
Eli has pretty much been complete ass for his entire career.Hi ceiling,low floor
...and Patriots cut ABDammit... And just yesterday, I saw someone in my fantasy league drop AJ Green so I dropped Josh Gordon to pick him up... Now I have to hope everyone in my league is napping so I can pick Gordon back up off waivers...
2nd time in the past 40 years Lions got through 3 games without a loss. Living largeThat is stunning.
Hey Patricia has your favorite punching bag at 2-0-1 beating the Eagles today in Philly no lessshould be 3-0. they were up 24-6 in the 4th QTR and they let a crappy Arizona team starting a 5'9 rookie QB come back and tie the game. this still boils my blood.
I can never tell if Wentz is good or not. Made some just great throws, then in what should have been the drive which would have put the Packers to bed almost puts Jordan Howard in the hospital and follows it up with an atrocious 3rd down pass.
Wentz went on a tear on 2017 before injury realities set in. Since then Wentz has plateaued into less than a safe bet but tonight against the Packers was a very solid, poised performance.He did look great his rookie season.I watched that game vs the Rams that December when he got injured and still played after that.Still think he has a lot of upside which I didn't think before he entered the league draft.The small colleges and players he faced were not prepping him well for Sundays or so I thought.Did not see the game last night but still plenty of time for Wentz to shake off the bogies and get his game on
Jets look like they'll be 0-7 going into the tank bowl w/ the Dolphins. Packers should really call them and try to make a deal for LeVeon Bell.I'm not sure the Jets are ready to give up, 3 of their best players (Darnold, Williams and Mosley) are out injured. I don't disagree necessarily, but I don't see them trading a guy 3 games into a 4 year contract.
Rodgers he still looks like one the best in the league w/ the whole field to work with but inside the 20, he's been very inaccurate and looks to have lost his touch on short passes. After the 1st down pass at the 1, the Eagles didn't even play run and sent everyone after Rodgers. Without a running game they'll get dispatched in the divisionals or Rodgers is going to get hurt again.
Plus Bell, even though the stats don't show it, still looks very good. Sure he might cost say a No.1 (low-mid 20s) but the Jets would be eating a ton of dead money so he wouldn't couldn't much against the cap. Also Melvin Gordon is available I guess, might cost less but you'll have to resign him but I don't think he's as good.
Jets ain’t winning anything any time soon. Brady isn’t going anywhere for this year or the next 2-3 years imo. And I’m not sold on Darnold. At all. If I was a GM, I’d trade Bell. Get as many picks as you can for him. Bad teams need to trade their best players for picks if they want to get better. Cardinals should’ve done it years ago with Fitz. Lions should’ve done it with Barry and Calvin and Suh really.They might not challenge for the division, but aside from the Patriots and Chiefs, who in the AFC would you bet on being good 2 years from now?
Packers should’ve manned up and got Bell last year while he was holding out. Don’t see them doing it right now.
Lions up 10-0 on Chiefs. Mind blown. It’s super early and 10 point lead isn’t safe against that team- but holy ish if the Lions actually pull off the upset.....Trying to follow game on ESPN. Detroit NEVER on tv here. How did KC go from 3rd and 67 to Detroit 13 yard line?
Lions up 10-0 on Chiefs. Mind blown. It’s super early and 10 point lead isn’t safe against that team- but holy ish if the Lions actually pull off the upset.....I think this might be the first time in my life I've actually been impressed with the Lions and a loss. They pulled up sets before when the other team hasn't really showed up, but the chiefs played well, the Lions played well, did she's good is just better than the Lions good. the Lions played well enough today to beat any team in the league except the chiefs and the Patriots, it's just unfortunate that they were playing one of them
Dalvin cook needs to at least pretend to be interested in pass-blocking
How motivated would I be to do my job?
How is motivated would you be to block for freakin Cousins? completely ineffective quarterbacking against Chicago’s D.
How motivated would I be to do my job?
At least Kirk got PAID because the Vikings front office is idiots, because he's going to be unable to walk playing behind that trash offensive line, and a running back who actively moves out of the way rather than pick up his man.
I think this might be the first time in my life I've actually been impressed with the Lions and a loss. They pulled up sets before when the other team hasn't really showed up, but the chiefs played well, the Lions played well, did she's good is just better than the Lions good. the Lions played well enough today to beat any team in the league except the chiefs and the Patriots, it's just unfortunate that they were playing one of themMe too. In a weird way. They actually played really well.
There's probably 6 QBs in the NFL worth paying. The problem is there are maybe another 15 solid QBs. And if you have one of those 15, you are screwed because you can't afford to put enough talent around them, but they aren't good enough to maximize a blah roster. But they also aren't bad enough to justify not extending, and starting from scratch. If Minnesota had drafted Cousins and reached that point, oh well. What makes the Vikings move so confusing is they actively went and signed one of those guys as a free agent. Nobody else does that. Jimmy Garapolo is the closest other example off the top of my head.
Sports Media Guide to creating Kirk Cousins talking points:
Any game Cousins loses is automatically referred to as Another Big Game Cousins’ botched/blew/bungled
Any game Cousins wins is Cousins merely padding his stats to justify his Aaron Rodgers/Russel Wilson sized contract
How motivated would I be to do my job?Granted, I guess if this is him TRYING, as opposed to the other play, where he literally stepped out of the way, I guess there is minimal difference
At least Kirk got PAID because the Vikings front office is idiots, because he's going to be unable to walk playing behind that trash offensive line, and a running back who actively moves out of the way rather than pick up his man.
Ravens will probably challenge in the AFC for the next few years. I think they walked off the field against the Chiefs w/ the mindset that they could beat them in the playoffs and have traditionally went toe to toe w/ Pats. Other than spending a little too much on the secondary they are really sitting pretty cap wise and can keep the team together. Nolan is the perfect OC for Jackson and Brown is going to be an excellent No.1 WR.
Jackson also unlike Watson, Darnold, and Mayfield has a good OL and Ingram has been running well (granted against lousy Ds).
Other than that I don't really see and up and coming teams in the AFC. Maybe Denver if they can find a QB, maybe Buffalo if Josh Allen (who might turn out to be a functional QB) can continue to improve. However there is no reason to believe either of these things will happen to the degree where they'll be a legit threat.
Granted, I guess if this is him TRYING, as opposed to the other play, where he literally stepped out of the way, I guess there is minimal differenceShout out to my boy Nick Kwitakowski from WVU for putting him on those skates. Hard nosed dude.
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Cousins is a "good" QB under perfect conditions, clean pocket 1st or 2nd read open80 million doesn't get what it's use to
regardless, Dalvin needs to block or get off the field on passing downsyup. there is zero excuse for a RB not being able to pick-up a blitz. Unless that RB was facing LT or Derrick Thomas or someone of that caliber from this era like Von Miller. RB's need to pick-up blitzes. The truly great ones doo. Dalvin Cook is never going to be more than a change of pace/receiving back/slasher until he learns how to pick up blitzes.
Ya something definitely smelled in Denmark.Taco didn't seem like the type to take it easy after getting a contract.I really don't remember Marinelli evidently that is a good thingMORON-elli was the head coach of the infamous 0-16 Lions team. Guy coached the Lions for 3 seasons and won 9 games in 3 years I want to say. Excellent coach as you can tell.
MORON-elli coached the Lions for 3 seasons and won 9 games in 3 years I want to say. Excellent coach as you can tell.Sadly if you string it out he still had a better winning % than the Browns under Hugh Jackson
I thought peperres was coming around before the trade,I wish him luckhe's been balling for the Giants the past couple weeks. Making plays all over the field. I wouldn't have traded him if I was the Browns, but I understand why they did it. They had a chance to get maybe the best offensive player in the game in OBJ.
Offensive talent? Not so much.offensive recruiting has been clicking with star rating
Offensive talent has been sorely lacking. Probably explains why Michigan's offenses have been a shitshow for awhile now.
I'm not a fan of the star servicesI always go to Ratebeer.com before I quaff :D
I tried watching some of the Dallas game the other day, but I just can't. I can't get over what a money-grab the NFL is. They zoom in on a kid decked out in probably $100+ of garb and it's just sad.My main issue is that it all feels so sterile. The stadiums are generic, the offenses mostly feel similar, the amount of annual roster churn just make the teams feel like a league of 32 quarterbacks, a handful of impact players, and mostly empty uniforms.
I know college fans can do the same thing, but at least maybe you went to the school or something. Or you choose to donate, as I do. But with what we know about how the NFL's popularity is largely fueled by gambling and fantasy, and not the product on the field....it just feels gross to me. I don't want it to, but I just can't pretend otherwise.
People who like the NFL should, but for whatever reason, I just can't.
Browns w/o Denzel Ward and Greedy Williams tonite.Garoppolo should light it up but Niners w/o a few DBs also.Hopefully they keep their road winning streak going49ers whooped dat ass. I have to say I was shocked. Not that the 49ers won, thought they might, but shocked at how badly the Browns got whooped. Thought it was going to be a really close game.
The more I watch Freddie Kitchens he reminds me of the Trailer Park Twin of Charlie Weiss.Bill Belichick can get away looking homeless because he wins and is trying to relate to the little guy.Freddie looks like that because it's who he is.He prolly gets all gussied up in his who farted T-Shirt on Friday Nights.Hey Freddie you got some coin now.He was calling the plays last year when the Browns got hot for a spell - so I get that.And anyone looked good after Hugh went 3-40,ya you read that right.Mayfield isn't earning his pay either and Ward continues to be hurt.Thinking he may be soft - should have kept Peppers win/lose he's out there and drafted a different CB.The Browns really miss guard Kevin Zeitler who they traded to the Giants,he was solid and dependable and hasn't been replaced adequately IMO.I've always felt that those guaranteed contracts are the problem.Want a Union - Good Electricians,Tile Layers,Pulmbers,Carpenters,Masons,Tinners,Glazers,Boiler Makers all make the same wage in their respective Unions.You make more the longer and harder you work.Big Money upfront guarantees meh,shabby resultsthis is pretty spot on. Freddie Kitchens is in way over his head. Honestly, it was a terrible hire. They would've been better off keeping Greg Williams as the HC and promoting Freddie to full-time OC and play-caller.
Baker needed to run like hell last nighthonestly, the Browns should've never traded G Kevin Zeilter and S Jabrill Peppers as part of the trade for OBJ. Zeitler was their best OL, so you lose him and it only makes the line weaker. And Peppers is a young guy just coming into his own right now looking like he might make a Pro Bowl in NYG and have a really good career if he continues to stay healthy and has luck on injury front- knock on wood.
Patriots are now 5-0. They are averaging 31 PPG scoring and then on defense they are giving up an average of 6.8 PPG. Their average margin of victory right now is 24.2 PPG. They get the Giants, @Jets, and Browns their next 3 games. Probably looking at 8-0 with similar stats.
In 6 games as a rookie Devin Bush has:Bosa, Burns, Allen and Savage. There are a lot of good defensive players that were in the 1st round. Oliver and Williams are doing well too.
52 tackles
1 sack
2 INT’s
4 Fumble recoveries
1 Defensive TD return
Defensive Rookie of the Year ?
Bosa, Burns, Allen and Savage. There are a lot of good defensive players that were in the 1st round. Oliver and Williams are doing well too.Yeah, it’s still super early. But I think Bush has to be the leader in the pack at this moment. He’s leading the NFL in turnovers and last night he scored a TD off a fumble return and he got a pick and returned it to the red area to give Pittsburgh a short field and set them up for an easy TD to give them a 14-0 lead early.
A Detroit player just called for PI for trying to catch an INT.Cowboys and Steelers suck, have to protect one of the chosen triumvirate
Cowboys and Steelers suck, have to protect one of the chosen triumvirateAlong with some phantom illegal hands to the face penalties...
Along with some phantom illegal hands to the face penalties...I think we are on the same page here
The NFL rulebook and officiating is a mess. The Browns has a "Blindside" block called when the receiver got run over by a defender who was staring at him. The Cowboys game had six straight penalties on the last drive. Then whatever happened last night, which I didn't watch, because I prefer my sports to have actual sports. Watching the NFL is essentially watching the officials and then the announcers talk about the officials.This. The officiating is ruining the product. It’s becoming almost unwatchable. It’s been the worst I can ever remember this season.
Rams trade their 2020 and 2021 1st round draft picks and their 2021 4th round pick for Jalen Ramsey. Dumb, desparate move. As good as Ramsey is, their problems right now are on that offense. I just don't see how Ramsey is going to put them over the top. If anything it's going to hurt them in the long run as they won't have a 1st round pick the next two drafts.I agree,Hard to believe Sean McVay agreed to it his boy genius tag is swirling the drain.Gave up way to much,watch Ramsey get injured from being inactive relatively speaking.Not familiar with the other trade
Rams also traded CB Marcus Peters to the Baltimore Ravens for LB Kenny Young and a 5th round 2020 pick.
McVay got pantsed by BB during the Super Bowl. I think he's still a great coach. Honestly- I've never been sold on Goff and the fact that he's gotten this much production out of Goff just makes me think McVay is that good. The real problem with McVay/Rams offense is Todd Gurley's health. Gurley hasn't been the same guy he used to be- and that entire offense runs through Gurley.Rams are in win now mode while in the old stadium to sell tickets. I guess it works to an extent even though its often 1/2 filled except when the raiders or SF plays. When the stadium is built the seats and luxury boxes will sell themselves (at least that's what they think, which they are probably wrong).
The Ramsey trade was a dumb personnel move, but I doubt McVay had much say in it. I don't think he's that involved in personnel. Most coaches aren't. There are only a few NFL coaches that really have say in personnel. Which makes zero sense to me. The model for the NFL should be the Patriots. The coach should have final say on all personnel.
Rams are in win now mode while in the old stadium to sell tickets. I guess it works to an extent even though its often 1/2 filled except when the raiders or SF plays. When the stadium is built the seats and luxury boxes will sell themselves (at least that's what they think, which they are probably wrong).Ramsey is a front-runner. When the team is winning and he's happy- he's the best CB in football. When they are losing and he's miserable and doesn't want to be there- he goes in the tank.
Ramsey is good, until you'll have to pay him 60M guarenteed.
Darnold is playing like crap, but Jesus, this Patriots defense is so nasty.still think they are going to the Super Bowl, but it would've been a stone cold LOCK imo if Antonio Brown wasn't such a dipshit and didn't get himself kicked off the team and out of the leauge.
Darnold is playing like crap, but Jesus, this Patriots defense is so nasty.
Browns waive Jermaine Whitehead following social media meltdown.Jeebis this team..Baker bitching at a writer, Whitehead threating Tim Fox for speaking the truth.Kitchens is losing the ship,no discipline or fundamentals - what a shit show.Baker struts around like he's accomplished something.No huddles or brain storming with coaches /players on the sidelines cooking up a Plan "B" late in the game.Mayfield needs a QB coach - this team is hard to root for,bad attitudes and bad performanceIts funny I watched them against the Pats and the Ravens, 2 of the 3 best teams in the AFC and just thought wow the Browns just look so much more talented than both of them.
Michael Thomas is the best WR in the NFL. That is allAlways helps to have the best QB in the NFL throwing to you.
Can't believe the Browns came back and won.Bills fumble the ball forward on 4th down and get a 1st and goal - TD followed.Turned off the tube evidently they got it together with under 2 minutes and march the length of the field.Very surprised when I checked the final scoresBrowns have way too much talent to be this average. That screams coaching and leadership to me. Browns made a huge mistake giving Kitchens the HC job.
Browns have way too much talent to be this average. That screams coaching and leadership to me. Browns made a huge mistake giving Kitchens the HC job.Freddie the Cable Guy.
Freddie the Cable Guy.HA!not a bad analogy but just win Baby
Michael Thomas is the best WR in the NFL. That is allAnd Stefon Diggs is the most underrated
Tua Tagovailoa is highly overrated as an NFL QB prospect. His ankle injuries are mounting and does anybody really believe he’ll be as effective as the Dolphins QB?!?! Without the huge talent advantage at OL and WR that he’s benefitted from during his entire time in Tuscaloosa? Every year a number of network “draft experts” fall for thinking a QBs college effectiveness will yard for yard, pass for pass translate to Sundays. See USCs last few QBs drafted first round.
Mark my words Jackson keeps running like he does he'll be looking for his earhole soon enough.It's The League - it's what they do.Hell Mahomes with his size just got back from getting drilledMahomes' injury was a freak accident that happened on a QB sneak. Injuries like that almost never happen on QB sneaks. It really was just a freak accident. Think of all the QB sneaks Brady/Manning/Brees have done over the years and never once a serious injury.
Myles Garrett may have just had his off-season begin.
Myles Garrett may have just had his off-season begin.Jail time or at least next season off w/o pay.And I'm a Browns fan and remember Joe Greene kicking Bob McKay in cajones and Dwight White trying to take off Kenny Stablers head with his arm cast,but he ended up seriously injuring himself on the play - which was kharmic.Garret ruined a great win and night with 8 fooking seconds left.Not only real dumb but real violent and Garret had some other incidents this season.Wouldn't doubt if the Steelers organization filed charges before leaving town
typical browns/steelersBlue Collar Bowl turned Red
unfortunately
If you asked Pittsburgh fans which team they would expect this type of game from, the answer would have been Cincinnati.Cleveland -Pittsburgh use to be really ugly,not that this isn't.Cleveland didn't start that if you watch Rudolph tried twisting his helmet.Was watching.Greenie,Vilma,Booger Mcfarland this morning were saying this,regardless that was a criminal response that was hardly retaliatory
Not sure why Cleveland started this stuff.
Garrett out for the year with no pay.Prolly should go a year,really sux for the fans,franchise and Rudolh
I've honestly never seen anything like that. Simply embarrassing as a Cleveland sports fan. What's incredibly odd is that it seems very out of character for Garrett. We have a group that we play basketball with a couple times a week and he's shown up a few times and been nothing but a really nice guy. Simply no excuse for his reaction. Absolutely appalling.Garrett unfortunately had a few incidents earlier in the year - they showed them on the World Wide Leaders this morning.All with 8 seconds left SMDH
Prolly should go a year,really sux for the fans,franchise and Rudolhfranchise shouldn't have an idiot like this on the roster
franchise shouldn't have an idiot like this on the rosterYou're right but the League is phony as hell though.They're always high browing until after the media/fans are outraged.Look how many chances the Burficts,Pacmans,Josh Gordons,Antonio Browns,Romanowskis get - when in fact they should be spending at least some time behind bars
Cleveland -Pittsburgh use to be really ugly,not that this isn't.Cleveland didn't start that if you watch Rudolph tried twisting his helmet.Was watching.Greenie,Vilma,Booger Mcfarland this morning were saying this,regardless that was a criminal response that was hardly retaliatory
I've honestly never seen anything like that. Simply embarrassing as a Cleveland sports fan. What's incredibly odd is that it seems very out of character for Garrett. We have a group that we play basketball with a couple times a week and he's shown up a few times and been nothing but a really nice guy. Simply no excuse for his reaction. Absolutely appalling.That is interesting. However, having watched their games this year, how many QB roughing penalties has Garret had this year? On that play, long after the pass was gone, Garret kept going until he had the QB on the ground. You would think that after multiple penalties for roughing this year, he would be cognoscente of the possibility of picking up yet another penalty and just let it go. Especially with what, 8 secs left in the game? How dumb does someone have to be.
The real problem here is Freddy Kitchens. He HAS to reign this stuff in. He has let these guys play this way too long and needs to start holding them accountable. When you are leading the league in penalty yardage and penalties per game, at some point they need to come to the realization that it isn't just one guy, it is systemic. And the coach needs to take responsibility and do something about it.I'm sure Freddie doesn't OK cheap/dumb crap that hurts the team as a whole.This is on Garrett and him alone real ignorant move
I'm sure Freddie doesn't OK cheap/dumb crap that hurts the team as a whole.This is on Garrett and him alone real ignorant moveI'm not saying he condones it, but he has lost control of the team. And the number of penalties they get is part of the proof.
He'd have a stronger legal case, had he not tried to pull Garrett's helmet off first.
That is interesting. However, having watched their games this year, how many QB roughing penalties has Garret had this year? On that play, long after the pass was gone, Garret kept going until he had the QB on the ground. You would think that after multiple penalties for roughing this year, he would be cognoscente of the possibility of picking up yet another penalty and just let it go. Especially with what, 8 secs left in the game? How dumb does someone have to be.You're not wrong here. We talked about this at my office after I posted and that's certainly been the case. I was more referencing his character off the field. Being in the heart of Browns' country, i know a lot of people that have met or interacted with him and everyone has had very positive things to say about him as a person. Like ELA stated, maybe he's a guy that can't turn it off on the field. On the field, as you noted, he's definitely had issues knowing when to stop.
The CFL Playoffs get underway today, on Espn2.
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Damn even for a team I hate this is just depressingthat's just sad.
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I don't usually comment here because I don't follow the NFL like I follow CFB but I am a Browns Fan at heart and this season feels so much better than those of the recent past but at the same time it feels like it has already turned into a "what could have been" situation.no way a team w/ an 8-8 record gets in. could be around 4-5 finishing at 9-7 though (Bills, Raiders, Texans/colts). Steeler game is an elimination game for both teams.
Here are the Browns' 16 opponents this year sorted by their current records:
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I don't know if this is still true but I heard not long ago that the Browns had played the toughest schedule to-date in the NFL. That wouldn't surprise me. They have played four games against teams that are 7-2 or better (1-3) and a total of eight games against teams that are at least .500 (3-5).
I feel like the losses to the 49ers, the Patriots, and the Seahawks are understandable especially since at least the last two were reasonably competitive. The win over the Ravens looks like an anomaly now, but it is a REALLY solid win. Overall, being 3-5 against teams that are .500 or better really isn't bad. The loss that really stings is that loss to Denver.
The Browns are still mathematically in the hunt and they are 2-0 in the division which could make a big difference as the first two tiebreakers are H2H and divisional record if they end up in a tie for the Division but the problem is that getting into a tie with Baltimore seems pretty far fetched right now. The Browns trail the Ravens by 3.5 games with only 6/7 to go so in addition to the Browns playing extremely well down the stretch, they would need the Ravens to do no better than 3-4.
The Browns have six games to go:
- Four are games they certainly should win against bad teams (Cincy twice, Miami, Zona)
- One is a rematch in Pittsburgh against a .500 team that the Browns beat the first time
- One is a rematch in Cleveland against a 7-2 Baltimore team that the Browns shredded on the road
It isn't crazy to think that they could finish at least 4-2 but that only gets them to 8-8 and that will not be enough to get to January. Realistically they will almost certainly have to finish at least 5-1 and I haven't seen enough consistency out of this team to make me think that they can.
So Rudolph deployed a racial slur?Allegedly. Who knows if this is even true. I highly doubt it though, with Rudolph playing in a locker-room that is 80% black. Could just be Garrett trying to save face and make excuses for his despicable behavior.
Ya he looks good today,meant to mention that Frank Gore passed Barry Sanders into the no 3 spot on alltime rushing list.Barry was graceful and complimentery to Frank.Frank played in one hunred + more games he's a gamer even with thatFrank Gore is a heck of a RB. Still don't think he's a Hall of Famer though. Hall of Very Good. Not Hall of Fame.
Frank Gore is a heck of a RB. Still don't think he's a Hall of Famer though. Hall of Very Good. Not Hall of Fame.
He might be #3 and ahead of Barry now, but he's not even in the same universe as Barry. They don't belong in the same sentence.
this Lamar Jackson guy is pretty good. He's what Michael Vick should've been. Not sure he's got quite the bazooka of an arm that Vick had, but man he is the closest thing to Vick that I've seen. Never thought I'd see a QB as fast as Vick ever again. Jackson might be faster in a straight line. Maybe not as shifty or elusive as Vick, but pure straight-line speed- he might have Vick beat.
my recollection is that Vick was faster, quicker, and shiftier than LamarVick was definitely shifiter and quicker- he might've been the closest thing to Barry Sanders that I'd ever seen in terms of just elusiveness- and the dude played QB. Straight-line pure speed though- I think Lamar is faster.
Lamar seems to have a better head, but it's early in his career
Lamar also has the benefit of a pretty solid QB coach
this Lamar Jackson guy is pretty good. He's what Michael Vick should've been. Not sure he's got quite the bazooka of an arm that Vick had, but man he is the closest thing to Vick that I've seen. Never thought I'd see a QB as fast as Vick ever again. Jackson might be faster in a straight line. Maybe not as shifty or elusive as Vick, but pure straight-line speed- he might have Vick beat.I thought Vick was an excellent passer at Philly. Maybe if he spent his whole career w/ Andy Reid and didn't go to prison it might have been different.
I don't follow enough NFL to really be able to answer that, but the Bears gotta be in the team photo of QB suckness.That's an award the Browns franchise can step forward to receive.As an adherent to college football Browns drafts are almost as torturing & tumultuous as the Season.The Browns drafted Brandon Weeden no1 in 2012 and he turned 29 his rookie season.Then to rub more salt in the wound they take Johnnie Football no1 - 2 yrs later.They also took Brady Quinn No 1 in 2007 - same year they made Joe Thomas a No 1 also.So you see they are capable of paying attention.There is a Devil - I'm convinced of it,I hear him cackling during Browns games and drafts.Oh lets not forget Charlie Frye out of Akron they took him with a 3rd rd I believe.We'll never know about Tim Coach as he practically got killed.But at least he walked away with about 15 million and a Playboy Centerfold Wife
I caught the end of the Fins-pats,well now I'm back in a survivor pool because everyone went out with the NE - loss.So Long Freddie but you did it to yourself.I don't care if the BROWNS hire the Rev.Jim or Ron Rivera,anybody to get them over the hump.Damn shame Shanahan stopped here for a cup of coffee a few yrs backI know a coach named Harbaugh that just might be able to turnaround the Browns. I doubt he'd take that job because then he'd have to play his brother twice a year. But that roster is mint for someone like Harbaugh to come in and take it over and turn it into a winner.
Playoff thoughts?Are they over?
Bills end their 25 year playoff win drought, and the 49ers beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.
You could have given me 1000 guesses and I still don’t think I would have spit out Sam Bradford as having 4th best completion percentage in a season.us cursed Vikings fans know that name and that season
What'd he do/say?He said that Lamar Jackson should play WR and not QB pre draft. Now refuses to admit he was wrong and is one of 3 to not vote Jackson 1st team QB.
He said that Lamar Jackson should play WR and not QB pre draft. Now refuses to admit he was wrong and is one of 3 to not vote Jackson 1st team QB.And the other two are his SiriusXM cohosts
The MNF announcers both suck and don't know the rules.McFarland actually said "here is why that last play was important, it was 4th down" and sadly he's probably better than Whitten was.
Did Derrick Henry grow? Tackling him looks like tackling a refrigeratorI was thinking that watching him. He looks like a power forward in the backfield.
Bill Polian might set a record for being an asshat in the most decadesHe’s a shriveling old ball sack.
Did Derrick Henry grow? Tackling him looks like tackling a refrigeratorHe is a freak of nature. I have to be honest, I didn’t think he’d be this good in the NFL.
He is a freak of nature. I have to be honest, I didn’t think he’d be this good in the NFL.Me neither but damn he looks like robocop out there practically indestructable.i love games like this defense,hitting,cold weather,ballers & grinders who want it bad - wtch thisshit all season
Stephon Gilmore is the only elite player they actually have on defense.jamie collins is tough,another brilliant move by the Browns.
Damn Brady still has it,spoke too soon called back lineman down fieldFatso was past the LOS but I think it was kinda a bullshit ticky tack call that had zero effect on the outcome of the play or was even really a part of the play. Shouldn’t have been called.
Even with say cousinsNah. Lol.
Well good game,the curtain may come down on the B & B ShowSeems like Brady wants the F out.
Seems like Brady wants the F out.
Hard to blame him.
I’d go to the LA Chargers if I was him.
Anyone see that incredible play from Watson.as 2 defenders hit him simultaneously from opposite directions - offsetting their hits,Watson spins runs out of the pocket and makes a clutch throw to keep the winning drive alive
Detroit??QB is about last on the Lions list of problems, and depleting the roster farther to sign a second one doesn't seem to make sense.
Man, Adam Thielen with his second critical errorWell, worked out
Changing of the guard weekend? Brady with a game ending pick six and now Brees with a potentially game ending fumble? They have literally been football to me for over 20 yearsGame was already over.
Detroit??Makes zero sense. Detroit isn’t close to winning jack shit. Stafford isn’t the problem there. It’s the fat reject coach, shit awful owners, and terrible roster.
https://twitter.com/OdellBretthamJr/status/1213653149090754561?s=19Typical Lions. They have made VERY few good draft choices in 50 years. You can probably count them on one hand.
Makes zero sense. Detroit isn’t close to winning jack shit. Stafford isn’t the problem there. It’s the fat reject coach, shit awful owners, and terrible roster.Just me- Wishful thinking. Never been convinced that Stanfford is a winner.
Brady will wind up on a team that has weapons on offense and is close to winning. He’s not going to go play for a dumpster fire like the Lions.
Only good options I can think of are Indy (good OL, dome - whispers that Brissett might be cut) and Tampa Bay (skill everywhere), maybe the Bears.Chargers have lotta weapons on O though and Brady is from California and has a home in LA. Keenan Allen + Mike Williams + that TE Hudson Henry + Melvin Gordon if he comes back = 100000x better cast of weapons Brady has had in YEARS in New England.
Chargers OL is a sieve. He'll get massacred there. Rivers is also probably done in SD but IMO probably has at least 1 year left.
Just me- Wishful thinking. Never been convinced that Stanfford is a winner.I don’t think he’s a guy that can carry a team on his back like Brady did for so many years or Aaron Rodgers- but he’s still a good QB.
QB is about last on the Lions list of problems, and depleting the roster farther to sign a second one doesn't seem to make sense.A Lions fans once said Stafford literally broke his spine trying to carry the Lions, which is yes true.
Changing of the guard weekend? Brady with a game ending pick six and now Brees with a potentially game ending fumble? They have literally been football to me for over 20 yearsI'll be convinced the Pats are done I'm fully convinced that Andy Luck is retired. This is Belechick plot, prove me wrong!
Chargers have lotta weapons on O though and Brady is from California and has a home in LA. Keenan Allen + Mike Williams + that TE Hudson Henry + Melvin Gordon if he comes back = 100000x better cast of weapons Brady has had in YEARS in New England.Plus, it gets him into LA, where gullible rich people will pay tons to be part of the "TB12 Method" when he licenses and productizes it. Might as well get out here...
If the Chargers make some moves to shore up the OL in the draft, f/a, trades - it’s a perfect match.
Just me- Wishful thinking. Never been convinced that Stanfford is a winner.Problem is, and can't blame him, is that he was right at the end of the old CBS. So while now, if you hit on a QB in the draft, you have a few year window to build around him, while he's cheap, Stafford was the exact opposite. He and Suh cost so much right out of the gate, that Detroit never had those cheap years to surround back to back 1st round home run picks with any talent. They WERE the team.
Well the Browns are down to these guys as far as I understand it.Supposedly by Saturday they will have a new H.C.Anybody want to chime in on these prospects,just hoping they tap the right guy for onceI wouldn't if I was Roman, despite having Chubb. He'll get paid in the offseason (or by next week). Plus his best offenses had really good OLs, Cleveland doesn't and the front office is a mess.
Josh McDaniels - Patriots O.C.
Kevin Stefanski - Vikings O.C.
Jim Schwarz - Eagles D.C.
Greg Roman - Ravens O.C.
I wouldn't if I was Roman, despite having Chubb. He'll get paid in the offseason (or by next week). Plus his best offenses had really good OLs, Cleveland doesn't and the front office is a mess.If you're Greg Roman and you've got Lamar Jackson on your roster, why would you leave?
Schwartz would be fine IMO. I think they need someone w/ exp. Its hard to tell if its just the Lions or him when he was there.
Walking into Cleveland is the perfect place to fail as a head coach and end up back as an OC in 3 years anyway.While mostly true it's still one of 32 gigs in a country of over 300 million.The Browns Fan base has always been up at the top.There are hired guns/loose cannons out there willing to make a name for themselves
This is my favorite NFL weekend of the yearDitto. I don’t pay that much attention to the NFL until the week before the playoffs if there’s any implicating games. I hope college football never gets that way
Titans with the ole Tebow specialPair of running backs pretending to be quarterbacks.
still shocked the Vikings beat the Saints in New OrleansDamn Saints knocked me out of two pools this season(and one last year),thanx choke artists.Every time they were the decided favorites. :sign0065:
Damn Saints knocked me out of two pools this season(and one last year),thanx choke artists.Every time they were the decided favorites. :sign0065:Well- they truly got ripped off last year by the officiating blunder.
Pair of running backs pretending to be quarterbacks.We are staring down the barrel puff Titans Texans if the Chiefs can't get it going
Upsets.are fun, but I'm also a little bummed that the clear beat team in the NFL since early October is done.
How does a team go down 24-0 and then go on a 51-7 run?In the middle of the 2nd Qtr they showed Watson when Texans went up 24-0.He was laughing/joking/shucking/jiving like he was about to get handed the Lombardi Trophy.We were like hey there is whole half to play and the Chiefs had too many weapons and just like that they scored twice recovered a fumble and went into for their 3rd - serves him right I hope Watson gets shown that video
Don't know about their Offensive coaching and Watson is very good.We thought he was partying a little too early in such a big game.It went from being a blow out to a great game to a blow out the other way.Anyhoo the only team left that I don't like are the 9ers.How is it the Eagles/Rams/49ers go from worst to practically 1st in 2-3 seasons and the Browns(and Lions) limp along comfortably numb and fugatives from the law of averages SMDH :character0029:Competent management/coaching trumps the law of averages... Maybe someday the Browns [and Lions] should try it.
Nick Bosa named Rookie of the year.For anyone who says that kids shouldn't sit - there is your answer.Not sure how hurt NB was last season or if he could come back but his descision paid off for him.Of course a case could be made for 5th yr Srs coming back like Jeaux Burreaux - only he didn't get paid
Panthers All-Pro LB Luke Kuchley retires at the age of 28. Wow.Think of the coin they make,I could limp along the rest of what ever on 1 Million.I'm doing it now on a lot less.
More and more elite players are retiring before the age of 30 now. Not sure this is good for the NFL.
Think of the coin they make,I could limp along the rest of what ever on 1 Million.I'm doing it now on a lot less.Kuchely has made $63.5 million in contracts. Agents & lawyers get a % and so does Uncle Sam so it’s not a full $63.5 million but wouldn’t surprise me if he got $30-35 million of that. And he doesn’t seem like the type to blow it on bitches & hoes & cars & jewelry & at the club.
Kuchely has made $63.5 million in contracts. Agents & lawyers get a % and so does Uncle Sam so it’s not a full $63.5 million but wouldn’t surprise me if he got $30-35 million of that. And he doesn’t seem like the type to blow it on bitches & hoes & cars & jewelry & at the club.Oddly enough, the one guy that you wouldn't think has two brain cells to rub together, Gronk, apparently has been amazing at managing his money.
Oddly enough, the one guy that you wouldn't think has two brain cells to rub together, Gronk, apparently has been amazing at managing his money.
Supposedly he hasn't spent a dime of his football money. He's been saving all that money and only using his endorsements to live. So he's gotta have a nice large bank account at this point.
I guess he's smart enough to listen to a smart financial advisor then!
Ya me too Prolly,Mostert has 160 yds on 14 carries
Casual reminder year Mostert couldn't get on the field for Purdueneither could Terrell Davis at Georgia. It's that Russ Grimm/Mike Shannahan zone running blocking scheme.
neither could Terrell Davis at Georgia. It's that Russ Grimm/Mike Shannahan zone running blocking scheme.Ya I was going to mention Davis along with Gary who picked up after Davis got hurt.Shanahan left Cleveland after he wouldn't commit to playing Johnny Football and the shithead Haslam is still here,Damn,Damn,Double Damn!!!
They can turn almost any O-linemen and RB into a stud. Pornstar Jimmy threw 8 freaking passes all game long and the 49ers still bludgeoned the Packers to death.
neither could Terrell Davis at Georgia. It's that Russ Grimm/Mike Shannahan zone running blocking scheme.... I mean, Davis did lead them in rushing twice. Granted he was in a very pass heavy offense.
They can turn almost any O-linemen and RB into a stud. Pornstar Jimmy threw 8 freaking passes all game long and the 49ers still bludgeoned the Packers to death.
... I mean, Davis did lead them in rushing twice. Granted he was in a very pass heavy offense.Also Davis backed up Garrison Hearst. Mostert backed up Akeem Hunt. To be fair Mostert got cut by pretty much everyone in the league, but man did he look strong yesterday.
Casual reminder year Mostert couldn't get on the field for Purdue
My Purdue memory should be sharper than it is, especially since I live within an hour from the f ing campus, but I merely remember him as a KR, and oh year, a T&F sprinter (a good one).
Also Davis backed up Garrison Hearst. Mostert backed up Akeem Hunt. To be fair Mostert got cut by pretty much everyone in the league, but man did he look strong yesterday.Criminally underused at Purdue.
... I mean, Davis did lead them in rushing twice. Granted he was in a very pass heavy offense.Well Terrell Davis was at Georgia for 3 years and the most yards he ever had in a season at Georgia was 824 and he never scored more than 5 TDs rushing in a season either. His other two seasons? 388 and 442 yards rushing.
Correct,no one saw Tom Brady turning into what he did as he wasn't taken until the 6th rd.Some guys just come together at the next level and some come apart - amazing what opportunity & good blocking can do
No one saw coming what he became. Mike Shannahan and that run block scheme turned him into a pro football hall of famer.
Well Terrell Davis was at Georgia for 3 years and the most yards he ever had in a season at Georgia was 824 and he never scored more than 5 TDs rushing in a season either. His other two seasons? 388 and 442 yards rushing.I might have my years off but was when Georgia was #1 passing offense in the country? You read that right, for a short period UGA was slinging it around the field. Eric zeier iirc.
He wasn’t exactly a big-time player. There’s a reason he was a 7th rd draft pick.
The only reason he even made the Broncos final roster cuts was because he was an ace on special teams.
No one saw coming what he became. Mike Shannahan and that run block scheme turned him into a pro football hall of famer.
Its funny even though the 49ers-Chiefs are pretty much dead even on talent, I don't see this game being close. Just get the feeling that one of them will control tempo early and grind the other one up.I heard an NFL analyst on the radio Saturday morning say that of the top 24 players in the game, 18 of them are on the 49ers.
Which one, dunno, kind of leaning towards 49ers though. IMO usually excellent defense, w/ an adequate offense trumps excellent offense with a less adequate defense.
I might have my years off but was when Georgia was #1 passing offense in the country? You read that right, for a short period UGA was slinging it around the field. Eric zeier iirc.Browns drafted him had him only one year before Modell(the cock) moved the team.He seemed to be a baller on the small side though - never really panned out
Hope KC gets it done,when was their last appearance?69,70,71 have to look it up69 season, jan 11, 1970
and one of the worst TV announcersI know. He was cant miss on the radio. Play action run was one of my faves. He'd also just exclaim things w the Pbp guy trying to call the play, 'goin up top!' Cover the gaps!
I was listening to him call a game and he didn't seem to known the difference between the guard and the center
69 season, jan 11, 1970Youngster - I'm :victory: years older,Joe Willie and the Jets knotted up the AFC-NFC record in the SB the next year.That Chiefs Defense was great,Buck Buchanon,Curly Culp on the line,Willie Lanier,Jim Lynch,Bobby Bell as LBs, Johnny Robinson and Emmitt Thomas as DBs.That squad should have won another Title
I was 7 years old.
the reason I remember, was vs Joe Kapp and the Minnesota Vikings
good guys favored by 13
The thing about the 49ers is they have a good offensive line and then a bunch of replacement level players on offense.Not true at all.
Shakira just gave me some sort of feelingOnly wish that there was a wardrobe malfunction and JLo and Shakira started making out. Would’ve been the greatest half time show in history never to be topped.
49ers problem on offense is Kyle Shannan chokes in 4th quarters and Pornstar Jimmy just isn’t that good.I'd take him could be coincidence as far as I know he didn't take a snap.Both his team got leads and perhaps either got tired or complacent.Hey they said Andy Reid choked,until he didn't
69 season, jan 11, 1970That was the game in which Hank Stram was wired up for NFL Films and we all got to hear him telling his team to keep matriculating the ball down the field for the next 20 years.
I was 7 years old.
the reason I remember, was vs Joe Kapp and the Minnesota Vikings
good guys favored by 13
Youngster - I'm :victory: years older,Joe Willie and the Jets knotted up the AFC-NFC record in the SB the next year.That Chiefs Defense was great,Buck Buchanon,Curly Culp on the line,Willie Lanier,Jim Lynch,Bobby Bell as LBs, Johnny Robinson and Emmitt Thomas as DBs.That squad should have won another TitleNope. Joe and the Jets won the previous year, after the '68 season.
Shakira just gave me some sort of feelingI'm no prude, but that halftime show was ridiculous.
the hype on Pornstar Jimmy was ridiculous. He’s nothing more than an average QB. This 49ers playoff run really exposed him.
How is this loss on Pornstar Jimmy?!?!Yeah, no. He never once was out gunning Mahomes. Everything Pornstar Jimmy was getting was cheap and easy and off the play-action. And he had about 50 yards of passing that weren’t even passes- they were little bullshit reverses to Deebo that counted as pass yards for some weird messed up reason.
21/30 & 219 yards isn’t getting “exposed.”
Dude was out gunning Mahomes for large stretches of the game.
Look elsewhere on the Niners sideline and roster for those who failed Pornstar Jimmy.
I'm no prude, but that halftime show was ridiculous.Cindy said the same thing,I haven't watched that for years - it's what I hate about the League.I turned it off and she protested so I turned it back on and got online.She likes song/dance but basically said it won't be long before kids under 16 can't watch the show.Also the commercials really sucked from what I saw.I don't think any of them made a point or made one laugh
commercials were really bad this year.. everyone is scared of the internet backlash and played it safe.Chiefs have at least 1 more SB win in them so long as Mahomes stays healthy imo.
The parking lot is a little sparse this morning in KC.... there were fireworks all over town and I'd guess a lot of people who celebrated all night.
My kids have been lucky. They've witnessed a championship by Sporting KC, one by the Royals and now one by the Chiefs. It has been a great decade to live in KC.
Anyone know why the Bears chose to move up (in a trade with the 49'ers) to take Trubisky instead of taking Mahomes?Because it's the perfectly "Bears" thing to do.
Because it's the perfectly "Bears" thing to do.This lol. Bears gonna Bears. The real mistake was not taking Deshaun Watson. Watson was the proven commodity at the time. Watson was the #1 rated QB that draft and for good reason. I think everyone knew that Tribusky was going to suck. Hell I knew it. I don’t think anyone knew that Mahomes was going to be this good this fast.
I agree.. I think the Chiefs have a QB will wins games they should not and therefore, they have a real shot at multiple SB wins. Each generation seems to have a handful of them and KC, I believe, has one of them.He is truly special. I see a lot of Brady in him in that he’s a dude that has big-time clutch gene factor- Mahomes can play like crap for 2-3 QTRs and then just flip the switch and turn it on and come through in the clutch when the Chiefs absolutely need it. Forget the athleticism and the arm talent- lot of guys have that. Few have that ice in their veins and the ability to consistently come through in the clutch when the team is down.
Give Andy Reid a lot of credit. He saw something in Mahomes that most of the NFL didn’t. Reid is an offensive genius.And it wasn't just drafting him...
Because it's the perfectly "Bears" thing to do.They were following the Browns blue print who BTW left Mahomes on the board also.But at least they took Myles Garret that year instead of the stewed newts they usually tap
I agree.. I think the Chiefs have a QB will wins games they should not and therefore, they have a real shot at multiple SB wins. Each generation seems to have a handful of them and KC, I believe, has one of them.hopefully, the Chiefs can pay him and keep him
hopefully, the Chiefs can pay him and keep himOh they’ll keep him. He will be the highest paid player in NFL history very shortly.
When he didn’t have the play-action working he did absolutely nothing.
Pornstar Jimmy was 3 for 11 for 26 yards in the 4th QTR. He misfired pass after pass in the 4th when it mattered and he badly overthrew a WIDE OPEN Emmanuel Sanders for what very well could’ve been the game winning TD. He is not good.
Like Baltimore after beating SF 7 years ago.Mortgaged the future on Flacco and everyone else walkedJoe Flacco is also bad
Since I dialed back my attention to the NFL, QBs must have gotten much, much better.
I don’t think we’re disagreeing on the big picture – I agree Garoppolo isn’t very good, a 15 – 20 ranked league QB at best, and overrated especially in context of how much he’s paid – over $100M. But he’s not the reason the Niners loss last night.
For about the first 48 minutes of the game Garoppolo managed the position as well as you’re going to get from him, completing 18 – 21 with a passer rating higher than Mahomes at that point.
Garappolo is one of those journeyman level QBs that does well when everything else around him is going well – in other words a vastly overpaid caretaker of the QB position. In turn his level of play was doomed to tail once his fellow actors got caught up in their own mess: A) secondary leaving Hill open for 40 yards on a 3rd & 15, B) followed by a PI in endzone, C) Richard Sherman getting cooked by Sammie Watkins, and D) TE Kittle on a great pass from Garoppolo getting called for a late OPI on a could-go-eiter-way call, E) several instances of strange clock management by Shanahan that included a F) reluctance to keep Mostert’s momentum going and G) shelving the play-action. Garappolo and all but about 6 NFL QBs aren’t going to be able to overcome all of that negative chaos.
Like Baltimore after beating SF 7 years ago.Mortgaged the future on Flacco and everyone else walked
Joe Flacco is also badJoe Flacco is one of those quarterbacks who get into the NFL [and stay there] based on being 6'6" with a rocket arm and the ability to throw a deep ball.
Joe Flacco is one of those quarterbacks who get into the NFL [and stay there] based on being 6'6" with a rocket arm and the ability to throw a deep ball.Eh that Ravens team that won the SB was as old as dirt. The fans, coaches and front office knew 2012 was the last year they'd have a chance to accomplish anything. If they had paid him something on the lines of 15M instead of 20M it wouldn't have mattered, they needed a rebuild. Flacco had a good career, is 2-2 against the Pats in the playoffs. Beat a stacked Denver team that won 11 straight.
John Elway loves those quarterbacks, even though the Broncos don't succeed with them.
Joe Flacco is also badPerhaps just not that season he connected deep often
Like Baltimore after beating SF 7 years ago.Mortgaged the future on Flacco and everyone else walkedHuge difference. Mahomes is the best player in the league. Flacco honestly stunk during the regular season just about every year and then he had a fluky playoff run and they way overpaid him. Should’ve never done that. Mahomes is legitimately the best player in the league right now. Flacco was never even remotely close to that.
Since I dialed back my attention to the NFL, QBs must have gotten much, much better.49ers can void his deal before F/A begins and he’ll only count $4 million against their cap. He got a huge contract but it was front loaded and it also had an escape hatch for them to get out without a huge cap hit.
Anyway, if he's a journeyman, he's replaceable, so that would be good.
Mahomes is legitimately the best player in the league right now. Flacco was never even remotely close to that.Hindsight,20-20.Flacco in that season connected often and long.He's kind of bagged out since.Any NFL team can't afford to empty the coffers like the Ravens did for him.That Ravens defense wasn't very good that season so Flacco wasn't the cripple you make him out to be
Hindsight,20-20.Flacco in that season connected often and long.He's kind of bagged out since.Any NFL team can't afford to empty the coffers like the Ravens did for him.That Ravens defense wasn't very good that season so Flacco wasn't the cripple you make him out to beIt isn’t hindsight to say Flacco’s contract was risky. Flacco had been thought of as a pretty good, but not really special QB his whole stay in Baltimore. Then he had a great playoff run, won the SB, and the Ravens had really no other choice but to break the bank for him. But it was a situation where I think everyone understood why Baltimore had to it. If you aren’t going to pay the QB who just won you the SB then who are you going to pay for?
They can't pin it on BB just that camera man.Would not doubt how ever he had directives from higher upOnce is a mistake. Any more that once is a pattern. They just happened to get caught, again.
Once is a mistake. Any more that once is a pattern. They just happened to get caught, again.It's hard to believe he would take THAT chance to spy on the fookin' Bengals though.Tennessee,Baltimore or KC I'd believe
Remember Charlie's "decided schematic advantage" bulljive? Well, he left Bill's cameras in Foxboro.
Someone is going to pay Brady FAR more than he's worth.Ya think Unitas,Hadl,Namath had sad endings.Manning got lucky with all the pieces/parts surrounding him and he wasn't any where as healthy as Brady
If he doesn't end up somewhere with a great defense, strong OL, and solid running game, it won't end well for him either.
Ya think Unitas,Hadl,Namath had sad endings.Manning got lucky with all the pieces/parts surrounding him and he wasn't any where as healthy as BradyI'm happy Manning got his second ring. If they'd put players around him in Indy, he'd have gotten it much earlier in his career.
Someone is going to pay Brady FAR more than he's worth.He's going to stay in New England. But if he leaves, the Chargers are a perfect fit for him.
If he doesn't end up somewhere with a great defense, strong OL, and solid running game, it won't end well for him either.
I'm happy Manning got his second ring. If they'd put players around him in Indy, he'd have gotten it much earlier in his career.Um what? I'm always amused when people say that. Peyton played with maybe more talent around him than maybe any elite QB in history outside of Kurt Warner. When Peyton got to Indy, Marshall Faulk & Marvin Harrison were already there and both of them were already Pro Bowl players before they'd ever heard of Peyton Manning. Both of them are in the Hall of Fame. When they traded away Marshall Faulk, the Colts replaced one NFL HOF RB with another one in NFL HOF RB Edgerin James. Who was his other WR opposite Marvin Harrison? Reggie God damn Wayne, that's who. Another guy that will probably be an NFL Hall of Famer. LOL. Not to mention his TE was Dallas Clark- who went on about a 5-6 year run where he was hands down the #3 TE in the league behind only Tony Gonzalez and Antonio Gates. And the Colts always had good to excellent OL's too lead by maybe the best center in the league during that time in Jeff Saturday.
But there's not a person that believes that they got that Super Bowl win based on his arm. His brain and his football IQ was still there, but his arm was merely serviceable by that point. He had the right team [ferocious defense] around him that it worked, though.
Well perhaps the Chargers will get a following in there new digs.Kinda of sad at least to me NFL greed snuffed out two of the great Cali franchises of AFL lore Raiders-ChargersNobody gives a damn about the Chargers. They went from being the beloved San Diego Chargers to the football equivalent of the Clippers or Mets.
Well perhaps the Chargers will get a following in there new digs.Kinda of sad at least to me NFL greed snuffed out two of the great Cali franchises of AFL lore Raiders-ChargersDean Spanos is an idiot for leaving San Diego. Anyone with half a brain could have told you that this wasn't going to work. No one in Los Angeles gives a damn about the Chargers.
Dean Spanos is an idiot for leaving San Diego. Anyone with half a brain could have told you that this wasn't going to work. No one in Los Angeles gives a damn about the Chargers.And they never will.
Nobody gives a damn about the Chargers. They went from being the beloved San Diego Chargers to the football equivalent of the Clippers or Mets.Chargers absolutely need somebody like Brady to get anyone to care. Which is why I think they'll go all in in trying to lure him away from New England.
I think the Raiders might do well in Vegas, though. People in Vegas are about as classy as typical Raiders fans already, so it should be a good fit.
Raiders are already doing well in Vegas. The Raiders just recently sold the PSL's for their new stadium. They were projecting to get $175 million. They got FOUR HUNDRED AND EIGHTY MILLION. 60% of the PSL's went to Nevada residents/companies. All the casinos went in there and bought up the rights to all the expensive boxes. Raiders are going to crush it in Vegas.https://lasvegassun.com/news/2020/jan/17/vast-reach-psl-sales-shows-raiders-national-appeal/ (https://lasvegassun.com/news/2020/jan/17/vast-reach-psl-sales-shows-raiders-national-appeal/)