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The sunset on slavery was already implemented and joining Bigfoot and Hoffa... And it was adopted by the southern states, not the federal government.  

There is always a cry by governments to emotionally incite, and in effort to justify their wants... It was slavery in this regard.  The strife was about taxation of ports, which the south had in an abundance at the time but fallimg on one primary industry, and an industry that relied on human trafficking to support the owners bottom line.... 

In one sense southerners are right... The war was absolutely about states rights over a centralized federal government filling their selfish needs... It was also about slavery and breaking up what amounted to a caste system in the south.  It was always, no matter how you slice it, about greed from the core players on all sides.  

Its baffling to believe people owned people in this country or anywhere, actually... Its hard to believe the systematic and well worn, passed down from generation to next mental gymnastics employed to believe one race is superior to another... Its just dumbfounding to consider such a thing, no?   Greed is a disease.  

Ignoring the past is a damn good way to replay.  The nature of man doesnt change.  These monuments and these symbols we encounter are a reminder and should never budge imHo.. Revisionist history needs to stop. Our past aint pretty.  The only way to make our future better is to remember mistakes bygone .

My great uncle, who lived most his life in piedmont of nc, passed in 87 at 102 years old. 

He knew former slaves.  He worked on farms and in mill industry with direct descendants of slaves.  I wish id have listened to him more.  

He spoke that segregation was far more economic than racial.  That whites and blacks didnt mix much in social settings, but there was little animosity between them from his perspective.  However, across the tracks where the upper class lived there was great hate for the poor, and especially the black poor.  It makes you think the entire segregation thing, being told by a person who was actually there and/or knew people who were still alive after fighting in that war and the fallout afterward, has been totlally misrepresented by people who stand to profit off pf it... In 87 he said racism was worse than he'd ever seen it.  I wonder what he'd think now?  I know he'd be sad.

Point is... It seems so very long ago these things happened.  Its really not.  Ypur grandparents or great grandparents stand a hige chance, if you're from the South for that far back, of having similar experiences.  

so, if the confederate flag is a symbol of slavery

what single thing does the stars and stripes symbolize?

I'd guess different things for different folks

I watched cousins Bo and Luke Duke drive the General Lee almost every week, mostly looking for Daisy Duke (Catherine Bach)

I don't remember many references to slavery, but I was young and the world was a very different place in 1979.

I loved the Dukes of Hazzard, and the whole thing about the rebel flag on the car is dumb.  It's the left going too far, as they've been guilty of a lot lately.  The show was campy and harmless.  If two young southerners named their car the General Lee, what the hell flag are they supposed to have on it??  
But a fictional, campy show is one thing.  A carved-into-stone permanent, public celebration of the leaders of the confederacy is very different.  I didn't plan to feel icky when I saw it.  I didn't know about it, so I had a sudden, honest reaction from within, and it was very negative.  However, while my parents grew up very southern, I am not.  I grew up in various urban areas of Florida.  No accent, no pride for "the south".  
I liked the show because the car in it could jump over anything - not because it was 'southern' or anything like that.  Looking back, they would occasionally have some 'pride of 'the south" moments in it, but it was always light and passing.  There wasn't anything deep, because that's not what the show was.  
Stone Mountain is a unique place to visit just based on the geology - like the Grand Canyon or the caverns in NM or whatever.  But pro-'the south' segregationists decided to carve 3 people into the side of the mountain - 3 guys who were technically traitors and attacked the U.S.  Just by that angle, it's odd.  

Sure, that's completely parallel.  Please tell me you're messing with me.

Funny that the SEC guy is the only one that's railing on the old south. On a Big Ten Board, no less. 

not completely, but a sovereign nation that attacked the US
1- you're ignoring the "why" behind the south and Crazy Horse's attacks
and I've been told some American Indians also had slaves
2 - "I've been told" isn't a valid source
why not  use the symbol of a peaceful chief?
3 - feaux respect for one of the victimized population that took what was forced upon them

Let's count the FoxNews tactics...

Funny that the SEC guy is the only one that's railing on the old south. On a Big Ten Board, no less.

When it comes to stuff like this, age has as much to do with opinions as where you grew up.