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rook119

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2018, 07:11:00 PM »
Yeah, I saw Allen probably three times this year.  The only time he even looked like a draft pick was against CMU in their bowl game.
Apparently the Browns are really thinking hard about taking him No.1. 

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2018, 05:28:04 PM »
I'm watching the Sr. Bowl. Now I'm convinced that this Richmond Spiders QB should be drafted No.1. 

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2018, 11:51:35 AM »
Apparently the Browns are really thinking hard about taking him No.1.
and this is why they are the Cleveland Browns lol. Great idea. Pick a QB who completes less than 50% of his passes for his career playing garbage small ball college competition. That'll work out great in the NFL. El Oh El.
Rosen should be the pick but he's apparently told them don't pick me. Maybe they are having second thoughts about Sam Darnold? Darnold has only started like 25 or 26 games and he's had a propensity for turnovers- but so did Andrew Luck and Luck has been pretty damn good when he hasn't gotten his brains beaten in bc of Indy's lack of an adequate OL.
Darnold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allen. And it's not even remotely close.

I'd take Baker Mayfield before Allen. Way before. I know he's only 5'11 and change but Russell Wilson and Drew Brees are similar sized and they are about as good as it gets at QB in the NFL outside of Brady and Rodgers. Only thing that scares me a little bit about Mayfield are questions about his maturity. Or lack thereof. He's got the arm strength, accuracy, mobility, and play-making ability all at high levels.
Still think Rosen will be the best of the lot. Probably the smartest dude of the bunch and also has the best arm talent.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2018, 11:08:28 AM »
PSU guys blowing up at the combine all over the place.  I think they may have lost more than we thought, plus the OC that totally changed the trajectory under Franklin.  Long term I think this probably helps them, but I think they may take a bigger step back this year than I previously thought.

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« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2018, 11:32:14 AM »
My thing with Mayfield, and this is why I thought OU would win the playoff, is that he's still good when everything goes to hell.  Uusally guys either duck their head and get sacked or run around and turn the ball over, but he's actually still productive when the play breaks down.

Now, it didn't help them win the playoff and it may not help him in the NFL, but I still think it's a feather in his cap that none of the other top QBs have (except for Jackson, but apparently fast, black kids shouldn't play QB).
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #75 on: March 07, 2018, 03:10:05 PM »
PSU guys blowing up at the combine all over the place.  I think they may have lost more than we thought, plus the OC that totally changed the trajectory under Franklin.  Long term I think this probably helps them, but I think they may take a bigger step back this year than I previously thought.
Losing Barkley and Gesicki hurts.  but The backup RB, Sanders, is still very good.  As far as Apke, he was a good DB, but being fast isn't all there is to it.  We still have some good DBs.
I think the biggest step back for us is at TE.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #76 on: March 07, 2018, 07:06:02 PM »
Disappointed that only Eddy Wilson got invited to the combine from Purdue. He was a contributor, but not one of the linchpins of the team. Wilson is only entering the draft because he can't stay academically eligible at Purdue [missed the bowl game due to academics]. Wilson ended up being a bust at the combine.

Ja'Whuan Bentley didn't get invited. Purdue just had their pro day and Bentley impressed. 

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« Reply #77 on: March 07, 2018, 08:44:50 PM »
Did I hear Hurst has a heart thing?  Does that affect anything?  Sorry, i don't know more.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #78 on: March 08, 2018, 12:13:24 PM »
and this is why they are the Cleveland Browns lol. Great idea. Pick a QB who completes less than 50% of his passes for his career playing garbage small ball college competition. That'll work out great in the NFL. El Oh El.
Rosen should be the pick but he's apparently told them don't pick me. Maybe they are having second thoughts about Sam Darnold? Darnold has only started like 25 or 26 games and he's had a propensity for turnovers- but so did Andrew Luck and Luck has been pretty damn good when he hasn't gotten his brains beaten in bc of Indy's lack of an adequate OL.
Darnold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allen. And it's not even remotely close.

I'd take Baker Mayfield before Allen. Way before. I know he's only 5'11 and change but Russell Wilson and Drew Brees are similar sized and they are about as good as it gets at QB in the NFL outside of Brady and Rodgers. Only thing that scares me a little bit about Mayfield are questions about his maturity. Or lack thereof. He's got the arm strength, accuracy, mobility, and play-making ability all at high levels.
Still think Rosen will be the best of the lot. Probably the smartest dude of the bunch and also has the best arm talent.
i don't really trust any of the qb's this year. rosen probably the best, but i don't think he's spectacular. darnold is there as well, but he's got turnoveritis (rosen isn't far behind him there either). and i don't trust allen at all. mayfield i can't get a feel for. feels like a slightly less annoying johnny football. slightly.
if i were the browns, i'd trade down with both #1 and #4. pick up a couple of #10-20 picks, plus add a couple of 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks as well, and rack up on other players. with the hot qb's on market, someone will trade up i think. as for their qb, take a flyer on one of the free agent qbs. try to get cousins, but if that falls through, bradford, bridgewater, mccarron or someone like that. one that might be good, but won't set you back for another 5 years if you miss either.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #79 on: March 08, 2018, 01:13:08 PM »
if i were the browns, i'd trade down with both #1 and #4. pick up a couple of #10-20 picks, plus add a couple of 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks as well, and rack up on other players. with the hot qb's on market, someone will trade up i think. as for their qb, take a flyer on one of the free agent qbs. try to get cousins, but if that falls through, bradford, bridgewater, mccarron or someone like that. one that might be good, but won't set you back for another 5 years if you miss either.
Heck, the Eagles are looking to move Foles, from what I heard. I'd rather have him than the rookies.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #80 on: March 08, 2018, 05:31:03 PM »
Heck, the Eagles are looking to move Foles, from what I heard. I'd rather have him than the rookies.
can't believe for a second that the Eagles would trade Foles. Right now there is no guarantee that Wendt will be ready for the start of next season.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #81 on: March 08, 2018, 07:30:02 PM »
can't believe for a second that the Eagles would trade Foles. Right now there is no guarantee that Wendt will be ready for the start of next season.
Yeah, but there's a point at which we all talk about what you do "when your stock is as high as it's going to get".
You only start one QB. If you have Carson Wentz and Nick Foles on your roster, it doesn't make you twice as good as having just one of them. If there are teams looking to make Foles their starter, you hear them out. If they're offering "starting QB" value for someone that you consider a backup QB, you take that trade.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #82 on: March 09, 2018, 09:54:53 AM »
I'd probably take Mayfield - he seems like the safest option.  I was impressed with his arm strength and ball placement, even while he was on the move.  If you are willing to spread out the offense so he has some space to operate he should be pretty successful.

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Re: 2018 NFL Draft Thread
« Reply #83 on: March 09, 2018, 11:43:17 AM »
mayfield would be my QB pick

stocking the trenches is always more important than a chance on a QB
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