2018 Michigan Season thread

[Mdot21]

Isn't that the reason people go to Ole Miss in the first place? Lazy admissions and booster handouts. The real world is a cruel place.

yeah, but I'm just wondering how bad those two kids' grades/class schedules must've been like. Patterson cleared admissions just fine. He must've taken his academics a lot more seriously.
I do wonder if them getting rejected by admissions will cause any sort of rift with Harbaugh. I'll bet he can't be too pleased right now.
Sounds like Van Jefferson is now looking at Louisville and Ohio State is trying to get involved there as well.
Deontay Anderson looking at Oklahoma now.

[Temp430]

Doubt there is any rift between Harbaugh and Admissions.  He's dealt with this before at Stanford.  Better they go somewhere else where they can cut it academically like OSU rather than fail.

[847badgerfan]

OSU and Michigan have essentially the same admissions standards (generally NCAA minimums), and both have academic programs to protect/hide athletes.

Almost every school has the latter - some (in Chapel Hill) more than others.

Anyway, if those kids couldn't go to Michigan, they are not going to OSU.

I'd put a dollar on it, Mortimer. 

[Mdot21]

Doubt there is any rift between Harbaugh and Admissions.  He's dealt with this before at Stanford.  Better they go somewhere else where they can cut it academically like OSU rather than fail.

there's a big difference between Stanford and Michigan, and also a big difference now in Harbaugh's rep/profile as a coach now than when he first got to Stanford. He was an up and comer when he got to Stanford. He's an established, high profile coach now who wields more power than he ever has.
Anderson and Jefferson could've cut it at Michigan. Don't kid yourself, if Mario Manningham could, I am 100% confident in saying those two could've. Admissions would've let both those kids in out of high school, both met NCAA mins. They looked at their transcripts and thought "we don't think these guys could make it here" which like I said, is a croc of you know what- considering a guy like Mario Manningham made it just fine for 3 years.

[Mdot21]

I dunno man. The impact that change of strength coach in Madison is noticeable. Like, a lot.

I'm not saying it doesn't, matter. Obviously it matters. I just think it's so overblown by fans on msg boards. At this level, most teams are going to have really good S&C programs. And if they don't, I think that's actually kind of rare.

What matters more are the you know, actual coaches. The OC/DC and the positional coaches. They've got to be able to identify talent, recruit and land said talent, and teach/develop that talent. Don Brown, Greg Mattison, Chris Partridge are fantastic at this. All of them are on the defensive side of the ball unfortunately. They don't have one guy on that offensive side that can match those guys. And that's a problem.

My fear is Harbaugh is scapegoating the S&C coach and he won't make changes where they really matter, on offense. I don't think it's a coincidence that they lose Wheatley to the NFL then he moves his son to RB's coach to replace Wheatley, and suddenly there isn't a RB on the entire team that can block anybody ever. The RB pass pro was maybe the worst I have ever seen. Drevno and Pep Hamilton haven't done anything at all on the recruiting trail, and they are both making over $1 million a year. That is unacceptable. They both really need to go, and they need to start over fresh. Go get the best OC money can buy. Don't pay a couple of your buddies who are not qualified for their positions over $1 million each. That's absurd.

S&C coach wasn't the problem. The offensive coaches were the problem.

Former Michigan OL Dave Dawson telling it like it is....

Damn Tolbert gone

[847badgerfan]

Sounds like Mike Hart is doing a pretty good job on the trail and at coaching for IU. He's only been there a short time though.

[Mdot21]

Sounds like Mike Hart is doing a pretty good job on the trail and at coaching for IU. He's only been there a short time though.

that would be a dream come true and home run hire if Jim did it. I don't know if they've ever buried the hatchet and made up, but there was some bad blood there for awhile. There is going to be a 10th coach allowed starting next year. He'd be an excellent choice. They need to make major coaching changes to that offense.

[847badgerfan]

Yeah, but wasn't that started by Harbaugh himself, with his denigrating comments on Michigan's educational programs for athletes?

[Brutus Buckeye]

"That's a guy I have no respect for," Hart said. " I don't know if maybe he wants to coach here and he's mad because he didn't get a job. He's not a Michigan man. I wish he'd never played here."

[847badgerfan]

"That's a guy I have no respect for," Hart said. " I don't know if maybe he wants to coach here and he's mad because he didn't get a job. He's not a Michigan man. I wish he'd never played here."

Right, but that was after Harbaugh said his stuff.

http://mvictors.com/carr-hart-fire-back-at-harbaugh/

[ELA]

Yeah, but wasn't that started by Harbaugh himself, with his denigrating comments on Michigan's educational programs for athletes?

He basically just said Michigan isn't different.  They have the same programs where you can hide athletes, like most other programs, but you can't do that at Stanford.  That much is true.  Most of UM's football team every year is majoring in no preference or General Studies.
That was the weird part about the whole thing.  He wasn't knocking UM's academics.  He was basically just saying it's like everyone elses, save for a couple.  And that they find majors to put athletes in.  I never got why that was controversial.  Look at the majors.  It's true.  And it's not bad, it's just not that Michigan was better than other schools in terms of that, but that seemed to piss some people off.

[847badgerfan]

OK, so Michigan and other schools have majors to hide athletes in. But many other kids hide in those majors too, because mommy and daddy tell them they have to get a college degree.

Athlete or not, that fine arts (or whatever) degree ain't gonna get you very far, unless you're a trust fund baby and it doesn't matter anyway.

Let's not pretend that Stanford doesn't have degree programs like that.

https://majors.stanford.edu/majors-alphabetical/a--z

[Brutus Buckeye]

What did mike Hart major in?

[Mdot21]

What did mike Hart major in?

don't know, don't care.
I just wish he was Michigan's RB coach. He'd be a hell of a teacher to those RB's and the dude has the personality and pedigree to go into anywhere in the nation and recruit kids. He was a legitimately great college player and NFL draft pick. He's been where these kids all want to be. And he was never the most talented or physically gifted. He did it all with his heart, worth ethic, determination and mental make-up. Have to respect a guy like that. He wasn't an athletic freak of nature that was 6', 235 lbs. and ran a 4.35 in the 40 and just born better than everybody like Tyrone Wheatley. Mike Hart was maybe 5'9 and 190 pounds on a good day and ran a 4.7 in the 40 if he was lucky. He made himself into a great player. If Wheatley had that same kind of drive and mental make-up as Mike Hart he would've just been scary. There was always that "what if" with Wheatley, even during his days at Michigan. Never really reached his full potential. As a lot of insanely gifted people are, he was kinda lazy.