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Topic: 2018 Coaching Changes thread

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MarqHusker

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #700 on: December 29, 2017, 01:45:55 PM »
I think I'm fully sold on the idea that Jimbo is fool's gold, and A&M has themselves yet another lemon on their hands.  An expensive lemon.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #701 on: December 29, 2017, 03:26:37 PM »
Joe Torre probably has the edge in MLB over anybody else*.    Leo Duroucher, Stengel, Bruce Bochy are amongst the several 'decent' players, very good managers.  Of course then there are guys like Ty Cobb, Nap Lajoie, Ted Williams, etc. who were inner circle all-time greats, but average to mediocre managers. Most didn't manage that long.    Lots of guys like Dusty Baker, Frank Robinson,  Harvey Kuenn, who played very good to great careers, and admirable tenures as managers.  The rest of the elite managers, were basically minor league scrubs, who might've gotten cups of coffee in the Show (W. Alston, Connie Mack, Sparky, LaRussa, Lasorda)


* Would need to probably separate players from managers, versus the player/manager, otherwise you'd have to consider 19th Century/early 20th Century guys like: Cap Anson, John McGraw Frank Chance, and a few others.  
If Donnie Baseball could get over the hump and bring home a WS title, he'd be in the discussion as well.  At his peak, he was a HOF-caliber player but injuries shortened an otherwise brilliant playing career.  He's an above-average manager but just can't seem to get over the hump - he has yet to advance to the World Series, much less win it.  I'm guessing a "personality clash" was a big factor in Mattingly leaving LA, but it's easier to win there than it is in Miami.  Had he stayed with the Dodgers for one more season, he could have gone back to New York.  I think he'd kill it there.

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #702 on: January 02, 2018, 10:49:33 PM »
RichRod gone due to misconduct allegations?

I mean, I know losing to Purdue is bad, but misconduct? :)

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #703 on: January 03, 2018, 07:50:12 AM »
Not even a little surprised

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #704 on: January 03, 2018, 05:30:49 PM »
Sounds like FSU may be targeting MSU DBs coach/co-DC Harlon Barnett as their new DC

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #705 on: January 03, 2018, 05:46:18 PM »
Yeah, they came after Jim Leonhard and were turned away. The FSU fans were pretty much asshats on the Badger boards during that one. I'm sure MSU boards will get the same treatment. You know, your "school" can't compare to FSU and all that shit...


aTm is going hard after Dave Aranda right now? One of the LSU beat guys is saying they are talking about $3Mil/year. That's hard. Holy shit.

aTm must be its own bank and have its own ATM machines.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #706 on: January 03, 2018, 06:01:42 PM »
$ Bill Byrne
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #707 on: January 03, 2018, 06:08:25 PM »
Yeah, they came after Jim Leonhard and were turned away. The FSU fans were pretty much asshats on the Badger boards during that one. I'm sure MSU boards will get the same treatment. You know, your "school" can't compare to FSU and all that crap...


aTm is going hard after Dave Aranda right now? One of the LSU beat guys is saying they are talking about $3Mil/year. That's hard. Holy crap.

aTm must be its own bank and have its own ATM machines.
Barnett will get a deserved pay raise out of it.  He was around $450 this year, Leonhard was at $600k.  FSU was paying $850k last year

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #708 on: January 03, 2018, 10:20:34 PM »
Aranda staying in the Bayou.

Rumor is Don Brown is target #2

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #709 on: January 04, 2018, 06:45:51 AM »
Aranda staying in the Bayou.

Rumor is Don Brown is target #2
Aranda.. 4 years, $10 Mil. I guess LSU is a bank too, with its own aTm.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #710 on: January 04, 2018, 11:31:00 AM »
Aranda.. 4 years, $10 Mil. I guess LSU is a bank too, with its own aTm.
this is the start... the start of asst coaches having contracts that are no longer tied to the HC.   Changing staffs will become even more expensive, and maybe that is for the best.   Good coordinators will stay as asst. and not jump to HC positions just to cash in...

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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #711 on: January 04, 2018, 11:51:26 AM »
Actually, his contract was already independent of the HC. That contract was written when Miles was still there. He was spooked by all the Miles talk down there and demanded it, or he'd have stayed in Madison.
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #712 on: January 04, 2018, 11:59:02 AM »
Actually, his contract was already independent of the HC. That contract was written when Miles was still there. He was spooked by all the Miles talk down there and demanded it, or he'd have stayed in Madison.
oh.. I thought they just agreed to keep him around.  I didn't realize he already had an independent contract.    I'm sure when the current Wisc DC finds his new job, he'll do the same.    :88:  (yes, it is a joke regarding your post on the husker thread)
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Re: 2018 Coaching Changes thread
« Reply #713 on: January 04, 2018, 12:03:30 PM »
Take a peek at the UW thread...
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