2018 Coaching Changes thread

[Drew4UTk]

doeren is officially staying at ncst... 

[Shiner]

Jimbo to A&M makes no sense to me either. Must be more to that story with his bosses. Jimbo has tried to use other job offers every year to extract more and more out of them. They might've called his bluff this time around. Good for them. Jimbo is a fine coach, but he's not worth what A&M will be paying him. A&M is probably going to make him the highest paid coach in CFB if the rumors are true. This has really hurt FSU's recruiting. They've already had 4 de-commits in the past day and there are others saying they haven't heard from the coaches in days and if Jimbo leaves they are leaving too.

I'm not sure what rumors you're seeing.  It's pretty widely reported the offer on the table is about $7.5 million/year.  He's currently making $5.5 and is the 6th highest paid coach in CFB.  This would make him the 3rd highest paid coach.  We're not getting into the ballpark of what Saban is making, who is the highest paid.

Fisher has six 10-win seasons out of the 7 seasons he's been at FSU prior to this year... plus a national title.  I'd say the pay is probably commensurate with what he's accomplished.  If anything, he's underpaid at FSU given the current pay scale in CFB these days.  For reference, Sumlin was making $5 million/year and his resume can't touch Fisher's. 

[Brutus Buckeye]

The coaching fraternity is a tight one.

You are gonna have to find someone pretty desperate, to be willing to walk across that picket line; after subjecting Schiano to character assassination. 

[ELA]

Except PSU got the guy they wanted last coaching search....and who has already taken his name out of other coaching searches before they even happened, has put together Top 5 recruiting classes, back to back top 10 teams.....all after the (arguably) worst sanctions the NCAA has ever given out.  Not sure how anyone but a 'helmet' turns it around like this in < 5 years.

That wasn't a commentary on Nebraska or Penn State, I just threw in that they were in my group of 3 with Tennessee that is just on the outside.

[OrangeAfroMan]

I'm telling you, it's gonna be John L. Smith for one season, lol.

[Mdot21]

I'm telling you, it's gonna be John L. Smith for one season, lol.

If they go the interim for a season route it'll be Brady Hoke. Unless Hoke turns them down lol.

[Mdot21]

Feldman reporting Tennessee talking to Sumlin. Not sure I'd take that job if I was him.

[ELA]

Feldman reporting Tennessee talking to Sumlin. Not sure I'd take that job if I was him.

Tennessee, now taking Arizona State's backup plans.  Wow

[grillrat]

I'm not sure what rumors you're seeing.  It's pretty widely reported the offer on the table is about $7.5 million/year.  He's currently making $5.5 and is the 6th highest paid coach in CFB.  This would make him the 3rd highest paid coach.  We're not getting into the ballpark of what Saban is making, who is the highest paid.

Fisher has six 10-win seasons out of the 7 seasons he's been at FSU prior to this year... plus a national title.  I'd say the pay is probably commensurate with what he's accomplished.  If anything, he's underpaid at FSU given the current pay scale in CFB these days.  For reference, Sumlin was making $5 million/year and his resume can't touch Fisher's.

I heard an interview with Fisher about an hour ago on XM radio.  He is not saying anything definitive, but it sounds like he is gone, IMO.  The big thing mentioned though is that the facilities at FSU are apparently pretty old and out of date.  FSU was dominant for so long, they kinda let the facilities slip because, well....frankly...., they didn't need to worry about them.  They were getting the recruits they wanted without any trouble.  They essentially, got spoiled.

Texas A&M can throw more money, better existing facilities, and a fresh start at a coach who is only going to get 7 wins this season at most.

Also, Danny Kenel brought up an interesting point.  No matter what Jimbo does at FSU, he will never get the credit that Bowden will get.  Bowden MADE that program.  If Jimbo were to go to aTm and bring them a national championship, he would be regarded in the same light as Bowden.

[FearlessF]

That wasn't a commentary on Nebraska or Penn State, I just threw in that they were in my group of 3 with Tennessee that is just on the outside.

so, 1 outa 3 ain't bad?

[Shiner]

I heard an interview with Fisher about an hour ago on XM radio.  He is not saying anything definitive, but it sounds like he is gone, IMO.  The big thing mentioned though is that the facilities at FSU are apparently pretty old and out of date.  FSU was dominant for so long, they kinda let the facilities slip because, well....frankly...., they didn't need to worry about them.  They were getting the recruits they wanted without any trouble.  They essentially, got spoiled.

Texas A&M can throw more money, better existing facilities, and a fresh start at a coach who is only going to get 7 wins this season at most.

Also, Danny Kenel brought up an interesting point.  No matter what Jimbo does at FSU, he will never get the credit that Bowden will get.  Bowden MADE that program.  If Jimbo were to go to aTm and bring them a national championship, he would be regarded in the same light as Bowden.

I think that last paragraph is a key point that can't be forgotten.

There's also some other factors which I don't think can be ignored... Namely if he moves to College Station, he's 90 minutes from Houston's medical complexes to include MD Anderson, which is one of the premiere cancer/rare disease centers in the world.  I'm not sure this is an insignificant point given the health of his son.   

[FearlessF]

well, if Fisher moves to College Station and screws up the Frost to UNL dream, Husker fans are going to lose their minds

[betarhoalphadelta]

That wasn't a commentary on Nebraska or Penn State, I just threw in that they were in my group of 3 with Tennessee that is just on the outside.

I think Penn State is still "helmet". They had some rough times in the transition to the B1G, especially as Paterno was getting long in the tooth. I'm sure it's hard to go from East Coast independent to just another storied program in a conference full of them. Then the sanctions hit and hurt badly, but they've recovered through that by getting a "stability" coach in O'Brien and following it up with a strong hire in Franklin.

But they've got a lot going for them:
1) History.
2) Iconic uniforms. That sounds flippant, but Penn State is one of those uniforms that people think of when they think CFB.
3) Top dog in a populous state. 
4) Ready access to both Midwest and East Coast recruiting, and probably able to easily dip into the Northeast and mid-Atlantic and still dominate a recruit's living room.
5) In a good conference playing other "helmets", getting great TV exposure, etc.
6) A young but accomplished coach who looks like he's going to stick around a while. 
A run of bad coaching hires might have knocked PSU out of the helmet perch, but O'Brien and Franklin were the right people at the right time. 
Tennessee has had a run of bad coaches and they're in a more crowded recruiting field. They'll have trouble going into Alabama or Georgia and out-recruiting Saban or Smart, and Florida is crowded as well. They can try to go north, but then they run into the pillars of the B1G (UM/OSU/PSU). The Carolinas are harder with Clemson's ascendancy and the ACC becoming a much stronger conference over time. And if they try to head west they're fighting with OU and Texas. The right hire can mean a LOT for Tennessee, especially if he rebuilds them for a few years and that coincides with Saban's retirement, opening the field in the SEC.
I think Nebraska is the odd man out though. They're no longer what they once were (i.e. the Nebraska "brand" of option football and blackshirt defense has waned), have lost their recruiting pipeline into TX and OK, and they don't have a fertile local recruiting ground to pull from. I worry they're increasingly trying to sell the Nebraska "brand" nationally to kids who are too young to know or care about it.

[MrNubbz]

That would be a decent Plan K

Thank you for tracking the inquisition.Who on this Forum will be asked to take the reigns?