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Topic: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread

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847badgerfan

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #616 on: December 18, 2018, 04:16:55 PM »
Massey composite rankings (46 rankings), with last week in parenthesis...

  • Duke (1)
  • MICHIGAN (2)
  • Kansas (4)
  • Virginia (6)
  • MICHIGAN STATE (5)
  • Tennessee (7)
  • Gonzaga (3)
  • Nevada (8)
  • North Carolina (10)
  • Texas Tech (13)
  • Auburn (9)
  • Virginia Tech (12)
  • WISCONSIN (14)
  • NEBRASKA (15)
  • OHIO STATE (11)
  • Florida State (16)
  • Buffalo (17)
  • Oklahoma (19)
  • Mississippi State (24)
  • Cincinnati (18)
  • INDIANA (21)
  • Houston (23)
  • Louisville (25)
  • TCU (24)
  • NC State (25)

  • 28. Maryland (26)
  • 29. Iowa (37)
  • 33. Purdue (20)
  • 48. Northwestern (45)
  • 56. Minnesota (57)
  • 65. Penn State (48)
  • 97. Rutgers (86)
  • 106. Illinois (111)


1. Michigan, MSU
2. UW, OSU, UNL, IU
3. Maryland, Iowa, Purdue
4. Northwestern, Minnesota, Penn State
5. Rutgers, Illinois
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #617 on: December 18, 2018, 05:09:30 PM »
1. Michigan, MSU
2. UW, OSU, UNL, IU
3. Maryland, Iowa, Purdue
4. Northwestern, Minnesota, Penn State
5. Rutgers, Illinois
FWIW:
I'm not going to change this and alter the projections for at least a few weeks.  
That said, I'm glad to see someone else chiming in on tiers.  I like to get consensus on it.  @847badgerfan 's proposed changes (based on @ELA 's composite rankings):
  • MSU up to tier-1 (from tier-2)
  • UNL up to tier-2 (from tier-3)
  • IU up to tier-2 (from tier-3)
  • Purdue down to tier-3 (from tier-2)
  • Iowa up to tier-3 (from tier-4)
That is a whole lot of changes but there are good arguments for each of them.  I want to let it ride for a bit and see how things go.  If badge/ELA are right it will become apparent once the OOC ends and conference play resumes.  

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #618 on: December 18, 2018, 05:14:35 PM »
I'm not really in love with IU in #2, in all honesty. 
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #619 on: December 18, 2018, 05:48:32 PM »
I'm not really in love with IU in #2, in all honesty.
Ok, but is that because you don't WANT them to be there or because you don't THINK they should be there?

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #620 on: December 18, 2018, 09:02:21 PM »

OSU has won 27 of the last 28 games vs in state competition. 

1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #621 on: December 18, 2018, 09:04:23 PM »
Bucks couldn't throw it in the ocean in the first half

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #622 on: December 19, 2018, 06:36:28 AM »
Ok, but is that because you don't WANT them to be there or because you don't THINK they should be there?
I don't think they should be there, but results say otherwise. It's weird.
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #623 on: December 19, 2018, 07:33:00 AM »
I'm not really in love with IU in #2, in all honesty.
Ok, I get that.  The other thing to consider is that, per @ELA 's rankings list, they are almost exactly half-way between the next higher ranked team (tOSU at #15 in tier-2) and the next lower ranked team (UMD at #28 in tier-3).  That is a big contrast to the other three tier-2 teams which are all consecutive (UW #13, UNL #14, and tOSU #15) and the other three tier-3 teams (UMD #28, IA #29, and PU #33).  

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #625 on: December 19, 2018, 09:24:42 AM »
Bill Walton is mostly crazy, but he is adamant that it has to be coached at this point for how rampant it is.  Hard to disagree 

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #626 on: December 19, 2018, 09:47:18 AM »
agree with Walton.   They're being coached to do it.  Charge calls seem to be up so I'm guessing coaches are trying to take advantage of it.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #627 on: December 22, 2018, 03:06:37 PM »
OSU has looked off a bit lately, hope they get right against a struggling UCLA team

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #628 on: December 22, 2018, 05:06:48 PM »
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
2001, 02, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #629 on: December 22, 2018, 05:59:09 PM »
Michigan finally got back to playing good defense today. The offense struggled early in part because Air Force played some zone, but they finally hit more 3s in the second half. One lineup change I'd like to see at this point is to start Livers and give him more minutes over Brazdeikis, who I think isn't playing as well of late, because teams are putting him higher on the scouting report.

Admittedly, Air Force is not a good offensive team, and is especially turnover-prone, which showed today. One more bad non-con game against Binghamton next weekend....

Johns did get in early at center, but looked bad, which is disappointing. The rest of the backups got in late, and unfortunately DeJulius still doesn't look ready, either. Here's hoping they still improve in practice in case they're ever needed this year.
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