2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread

[medinabuckeye1]

Not sure what this means (and not relating this to the Illini, but as it appears this is just about Chicago players). I see this as being taken two ways:
1) The players there can't get admitted due to academics.
2) Chicago players are so damn corrupt that you have to grease palms to get kids to attend.
I wonder...

I noticed that too and I think he meant #2.  #1 only makes sense if you think that Chicago area BB talent is less academically capable than BB talent from other regions and that just doesn't make any sense.  Chicago players being corrupt is something I have heard rumblings of before though.  I think he was referring to that.  

[ELA]

I think Miles signed the first in-state scholarship player from Nebraska in over a decade a couple years ago.  

Two 3* guys this year, one signed with the Huskers.  One last year, went to WVU.  None in 2016, but a 4* in 2015, who signed with Creighton.  4* in 2013 signed with Louisville.  4* in 2012 signed with Iowa.
So going back to 2010, Nebraska has produced three 4* guys, and three 3* guys.
Same time frame, just for comparison, since Iowa was the only one ranked lower: 2018 had two 4* and a 3*; 2017 had two 3*; 2016 had four 3*; 2015 had five 3*.
I'm not going to even go back farther, based on what their criteria seems to be, Nebraska should be below Iowa.

[ELA]

I noticed that too and I think he meant #2.  #1 only makes sense if you think that Chicago area BB talent is less academically capable than BB talent from other regions and that just doesn't make any sense.  Chicago players being corrupt is something I have heard rumblings of before though.  I think he was referring to that.  

Not rumblings, it's fairly well known

[ELA]

Also, to consider with all of these rankings, I think they polled the coaches on all of them.  So they aren't saying this is definitive, this is the perception of the other league coaches.  I think that matters particularly for the academic and recruiting base rankings.

[mcwterps1]

Someone [likely the same assistant] said the same about Rutgers.
But it says it's an assistant coach. I could imagine Collins, with his Duke ties, getting cheeky about the former ACC teams that came over, but if it's an assistant and not a head coach, I don't see any assistant on the NU coaching staff that has ACC ties. And please, like Northwestern basketball has an "identity"? So I wouldn't necessarily point to NU first.
Maybe I'm wrong though.
I could easily see this being an assistant from one of the more traditional powers in the B1G, too. Throwing shade on the newbies from the East Coast...

LOL!
Is that little assistant turd still on Ohio State's staff?
Hint: Another "dookie" 

[847badgerfan]

^^^ Your obsession with Dook is not healthy. I can't stand them as much as the next guy but man, you are over the top.



As for Chicago players... No thanks. It's all about street ball and street agents. That adds up to big egos, slimy recruiting and un-coachable players.

[mcwterps1]

^^^ Your obsession with Dook is not healthy. I can't stand them as much as the next guy but man, you are over the top.



As for Chicago players... No thanks. It's all about street ball and street agents. That adds up to big egos, slimy recruiting and un-coachable players.

Only time I think about them, is when I'm in this thread, and it's relevant to me. 
Would make sense, since you don't see anything from me 99.999999% of my life.

[LetsGoPeay]

My son played Meanstreets (THE Chicago AAU program) over the summer. Most of those kids were already making more than me. 

[847badgerfan]

Isn't that Tai Streets' gig? I think they might be in a little trouble.. but there is a thread for that.

[ELA]

To keep it on track, I think it'll be fun to have a year where the team is good, but without the weird pressures of last year.

I'm also really excited to see what Nick Ward can do.  He draws the ire, and he plays an outdated style, that really hurt MSU defensively at times last year, but I'm hopeful that he's ready to take a big step forward.  The way Izzo's system is, typically guys bigs don't contribute until their junior year, but Ward has contributed as an underclassman at a level MSU hasn't had since probably Paul Davis, 15 years ago.

For comparison purposes, Freshman/Sophomroe averages of some of the other good 4/5s in the past decade for MSU, and how quickly we forget how little they did in their first two years on campus

Payne: 5.3 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 13.5 mpg
Costello: 2.8 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 10.4 mpg
Nix: 2.5 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 8.0 mpg
Roe: 6.0 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 19.3 mpg

Ward is at 13.2 ppg, 6.8 rpg and 19.4 mpg

Has basketball changed enough that it won't matter, and his ceiling is what it is due to body type.  That you have to be a 7 footer to get away with playing the way he does?  Possibly.  But I'm excited to hopefully find out not.

[TyphonInc]

A Big Ten head coach in basketball said we shouldn't even be in the league?

If I were to guess, I'd say it's probably that jerk off at Northwestern.

So, it's actually harder to get into Maryland than Wisconsin? I heard that was impossible.

And only an assistant coach said Rutgers didn't belong?!?
I still believe Maryland aligns very well with the rest of the conference. I'm happy that you are part of our little corner of the universe.

[Anonymous Coward]

Isn't that Tai Streets' gig? I think they might be in a little trouble.. but there is a thread for that.

Usually (if for other teams or for Michigan in a different sport) the backlash for something like that would be intense. But it's barely showed up in articles or even message boards. It's a testament to how much trust everyone has for Beilein and the reputation he's built with a consistent kind of character over decades. (...) It also doesn't hurt that Michigan wasn't recruiting Bowen. But still.

[ELA]

Usually (if for other teams or for Michigan in a different sport) the backlash for something like that would be intense. But it's barely showed up in articles or even message boards. It's a testament to how much trust everyone has for Beilein and the reputation he's built with a consistent kind of character over decades. (...) It also doesn't hurt that Michigan wasn't recruiting Bowen. But still.

I posted my response about that in the scandal thread.  The line is so hazy you can't even see it.  As you said, UM wasn't recruing him, and Streets is a former football player working on behalf of an AAU basketball team and a shoe company.  The fact that he used to play for UM is an unrelated coincidence.  I'd say there's no way anything comes from this, but it's the NCAA, so I hate dealing in absolutes.
I have no idea if Streets and UM had any ongoing relationship, but to protect themselves, and for optics, I imagine they now don't.  Hell, Beilein may have already been intentionally avoiding recruiting kids from that team to be totally safe for all we know.

[ELA]

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