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Topic: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2296 on: March 17, 2019, 07:49:23 PM »
OSU draws the big bad ISU Cyclones. 
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2297 on: March 17, 2019, 07:55:28 PM »
OSU draws the big bad ISU Cyclones.
I'd feel better about that if it was football.
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2298 on: March 17, 2019, 07:56:28 PM »
VT has a chance, no? I haven't looked at it closely. I saw who we were up against, and honestly, I hope we lose to Belmont.
Maybe that will get Turgeon out of town.
What coach would you rather have a this point?
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2299 on: March 17, 2019, 08:06:50 PM »
What coach would you rather have a this point?
I haven't got that far. Turgeon and his record vs ranked teams, his in game coaching, his excuses, the lack of player development, you name it, he's got to go.
Roy Williams once said that the Maryland job was a dream job, because you wouldn't have to go far to recruit, and he's right. Something Turgeon has done here, but he flat out can't coach.

I'd take any up and comer who made the tournament the past few years. Someone who flat out coaches, because the recruits are there. 

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2300 on: March 17, 2019, 08:21:01 PM »
I'd feel better about that if it was football.
You think that the Clones stand a better chance of besting the Buckeyes on the gridiron? 
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2301 on: March 17, 2019, 08:26:10 PM »
The fact that there is even talk about gifting Gonzaga a#1 seed is just more proof of the massive favoritism for crappy-conference teams.
But oh man as a #2 seed, that's the regional you want. So happy about this draw.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2302 on: March 17, 2019, 08:59:38 PM »
You think that the Clones stand a better chance of besting the Buckeyes on the gridiron?
OSU would destroy ISU on grass/turf. On wood, I don't like the matchup.
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2303 on: March 17, 2019, 09:00:52 PM »
Michigan is the only B1G team that got a good draw. B1G Jim still has pull, apparently. 



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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2304 on: March 17, 2019, 09:13:20 PM »
I don't put much stock in Jim Delany conspiracies. I mean maybe the ones having to do with expansion and TV contracts but not the ones having to do with competitive advantages in games/tournaments. It's better to assume the committee is fully independent - at least until we have conclusive evidence to the contrary. But even for those who insist on the conspiracy now, it's weird how everyone has a different opinion about "the apple of his eye." Michigan conspiracyists insist it's the opposite of M, for example.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2305 on: March 17, 2019, 09:39:06 PM »
I dont think MSU has a very hard draw to get to the E8. Minny/Ville in round two doesnt seem hard. We lost on the road to Ville with McQuaid out, it was the only game all year Cash fouled out of, and Goins/Henry were not near the players then that they are now.

Then the 3/6 seeds you have an LSU with no coach and the team I think is the worst 3 seed and Maryland team lost 3 of their last 4 including games vs PSU and Neb.

I get Duke looms large but I dont think MSU has the worst draw ever.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2306 on: March 18, 2019, 08:04:52 AM »
Also, the ACC with 3 1 seeds is laughable. The bottom of that conference is horrible. MSU, at a minimum, deserved a 1. I'd argue for Michigan too.
The B1G got no respect at all today.
I agree on MSU.  As regular season (shared with PU) and tournament champions I thought they deserved it.  
Michigan is a tougher case to make.  They had a great overall record but not quite MSU's SoS and the 0-3 record against the Spartans obviously makes it nearly impossible to put the Wolverines ahead of the Spartans.  Ie, I think you *COULD* justify putting a team that went 0-3 ahead of the team that they went 0-3 against but only if the overall records were wildly unequal in favor of the team that went 0-3 in the H2H match-ups.  
Example:
Last year Ohio State went 0-3 against Penn State.  In spite of that the Buckeyes finished six games ahead of the Nittany Lions in conference (15-3 vs 9-9), and had a better overall record.  This year MSU went 3-0 against Michigan, had a better conference record, and the same overall record.  

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2307 on: March 18, 2019, 08:10:48 AM »
But oh man as a #2 seed, that's the regional you want. So happy about this draw.
And back to the stupidity of that game.  It clearly meant nothing to the selection committee as far as favorable draws go.

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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2308 on: March 18, 2019, 08:14:31 AM »
Hopefully the new commish will bump the tournament by a day, so that the final game is on Saturday.



And yeah, Michigan got a HUGE favor here.
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Re: 2018-2019 B1G Basketball Thread
« Reply #2309 on: March 18, 2019, 08:35:52 AM »
Hopefully the new commish will bump the tournament by a day, so that the final game is on Saturday.
And yeah, Michigan got a HUGE favor here.
And back to the stupidity of that game.  It clearly meant nothing to the selection committee as far as favorable draws go.
This has been a recurring theme on this board (and the predecessor boards) for years.  I think we all have concluded that there are generally only two instances in which the B1GCG has any impact on NCAA seeding:
  • If one of the teams clearly cannot make the tournament without the auto-bid.  In that case I think the committee simply makes an alternative bracket only to add a low-seeded B1G Champion if necessary.  
  • If two teams are near-equal and both are right on the line for a higher seed.  Ie, if the committee would have decided that the M/MSU winner was going to get the last #1 seed.  In that case I think that the committee would have made two alternative brackets one with Michigan as a #1 seed, and one with MSU as a #1 seed.  

Having the B1GCG right before they announce the field is great if your team loses the B1GCG, it sucks if your team wins the B1GCG.  

 

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