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Topic: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #168 on: December 31, 2019, 10:01:43 AM »
Well, now the replay official's name is out there.

Might want to consider retirement, or be fired.

Even the Big Ten director of officials and national director of officials are on record saying that call was bad. No word from the SEC office yet. Probably figuring out how to ESPiN it.
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #169 on: December 31, 2019, 10:08:58 AM »
I think individual officiating crews are different and thus worse than others.  Does one conference have more "bad" crews?  Perhaps

only the very top graded crews should be working the CFP

and they should be from a conference not represented in the game
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #170 on: December 31, 2019, 10:11:51 AM »
Is a crew likely to be better or worse if you take an entire crew used to working together, or take individuals who grade highly and create a team that has not worked together?

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #171 on: December 31, 2019, 10:16:57 AM »
they need to be a team, working together for some time

I know NFL coaches scout officiating crews to track their tendencies.

Some crews call more penalties than others, some more PI penalties, some more offensive holding penalties

I don't feel it should be this way.  Officiating should be consistent across the board, but that is probably unrealistic 
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #172 on: December 31, 2019, 11:50:01 AM »
  Do they ever stop the clock mid-drive for solely TV reasons?
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #173 on: December 31, 2019, 11:52:52 AM »
I think individual officiating crews are different and thus worse than others.  Does one conference have more "bad" crews?  Perhaps

only the very top graded crews should be working the CFP

and they should be from a conference not represented in the game
Not only not represented in the game, but from a conference with zero interest in the game. That would have left us with PAC officials in both games.

So, anyone like the NFL officials idea?
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #174 on: December 31, 2019, 12:00:59 PM »
Not only not represented in the game, but from a conference with zero interest in the game. That would have left us with PAC officials in both games.

So, anyone like the NFL officials idea?

The NFL has some key differences in rules, is about the only problem I see.  Well that, and the NFL is still playing during bowl season, but I suspect there are enough crews in enough different areas to make it work.

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #175 on: December 31, 2019, 12:36:28 PM »
Not only not represented in the game, but from a conference with zero interest in the game. That would have left us with PAC officials in both games.

So, anyone like the NFL officials idea?
NFL crews would be just as good as PAC crews
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #176 on: December 31, 2019, 01:41:41 PM »
Well, now the replay official's name is out there.

Might want to consider retirement, or be fired.

Even the Big Ten director of officials and national director of officials are on record saying that call was bad. No word from the SEC office yet. Probably figuring out how to ESPiN it.
So what is his name? (a quick google didn’t pop it up)

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #177 on: December 31, 2019, 01:42:57 PM »
I don't recall that TV time outs were called "out of the blue".  They usually come when there is a player hurt or perhaps a review at times or a change of possession, e.g., when the clock was stopped anyway.  Do they ever stop the clock mid-drive for solely TV reasons?


They were for a replay and the end of quarter, but I wasn’t sure if the post was asking for that answer/clarification or just saying why did it befall the team in that way. 

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #179 on: December 31, 2019, 02:13:21 PM »
but, who's the whistleblower!???
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #180 on: December 31, 2019, 02:31:14 PM »
I don't recall that TV time outs were called "out of the blue".  They usually come when there is a player hurt or perhaps a review at times or a change of possession, e.g., when the clock was stopped anyway.  Do they ever stop the clock mid-drive for solely TV reasons?

We didn't know. That's why I was asking. The 3rd time Day came running down the field and called the time out, but the other two no one in our group could explain why there was a TV timeout. 

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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #3 Clemson 29, #2 Ohio State 23 (Postgame)
« Reply #181 on: December 31, 2019, 04:36:48 PM »
We didn't know. That's why I was asking. The 3rd time Day came running down the field and called the time out, but the other two no one in our group could explain why there was a TV timeout.
Replay to check the catch and the end of the first quarter, I believe. 

 

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