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Topic: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?

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fuzzynavol

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #112 on: October 12, 2020, 09:43:09 PM »
It would take a total gut job of the Ath Dept or sheer luck to be replicated. Look at our hires since Fulmer

a fired NFL coach who was uber immature
La Tech head coach
U of Cincy head coach
a defensive coordinator

we don’t exactly go and pluck proven head coaching talent from other P5 programs
Why would any top coach want to risk career suicide?  TN fans need to get it through their heads who/what we are.  

Again, Urban Meyer would have laughed if we'd been dumb enough to contact him.  No way Saban wouldn't have come to Knoxville, either.  

We have to roll the dice on guys who we hope might be great.  I think we've got a good one now, and I hope fans are patient with him.  I don't think we're going to do any better than Pruitt.  

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« Reply #113 on: October 12, 2020, 09:46:50 PM »
Seivers was my all time favorite reciever. Slow white guy that caught everything in his area code....and was fearless.
I heard an interview of him a couple of years ago. He's still in the Knoxville area.
I've known Larry since he was in grade school. He was a goid basketball player as well. I played a lot if roundball with him and Kimmie Weaver who went to Vandy (good linebacker). Larry was not a fan of running. His driveway was (where he played a lot of roundball growing up) on a hill, if the ball got away it could roll a half mile down the road. He would bust his butt and leap to catch it so he did not have to make that trek. He and his dad broke many a lamp in their den football indoors much to his mom's dismay. Good family. They loved people and were active in the community.
His mom was concerned about the playing time he would get at UT because if Morgan's speed. I told her he would get lots just because of his hands.

Tn. signed two other players that year from Clinton Terry Moore a FB and Rusell Williams a LB - i think - he went out of country on a mission trip for his church for a year. He lost something on that trip an did not play much when he got back.

There was a RB on that HS team that they wanted but passed on because of his knees. He went to a small college and was killing it till he blew out a knee again and had to give up FB. Shame he was very good. Probably would have been one of the fans favorites if he had good knees.
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President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #114 on: October 12, 2020, 09:48:18 PM »
Why would any top coach want to risk career suicide?  TN fans need to get it through their heads who/what we are. 

Again, Urban Meyer would have laughed if we'd been dumb enough to contact him.  No way Saban wouldn't have come to Knoxville, either. 

We have to roll the dice on guys who we hope might be great.  I think we've got a good one now, and I hope fans are patient with him.  I don't think we're going to do any better than Pruitt. 
I have confidence in Pruitt, unlike Dooley and Jones, and think he can/is moving the team in the right direction. He is digging out of a pretty big hole. Patience indeed. 

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« Reply #115 on: October 12, 2020, 09:50:13 PM »
I have confidence in Pruitt, unlike Dooley and Jones, and think he can/is moving the team in the right direction. He is digging out of a pretty big hole. Patience indeed.
In ways it is a bigger hole than Battle left.
President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #116 on: October 12, 2020, 09:50:26 PM »
Just giving you crap about the whole Roy Moore saga. You were pretty excited about the Moore losing. You babbled about for weeks that Senators represent all of us not just folks in the state. 

It's fun to see evangelical Christians scramble to defend pedophiles.  

What do you think TN's record would have been since 2007 if we hired Saban in 2007? About the same as Bama's?

Great hypothetical - I doubt we would have fared as well, but it's possible.  Problem is, Saban wouldn't have touched Tennessee with a ten foot cattle prod.  

Thanks for proving my point. Winning is more about great coaching than geography. 

So the SEC coaching is just that superior?  The players aren't any better?  That would be news on NFL draft day every year.  

The TN coaching job was just as attractive as AL's when Saban took the AL job. 




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« Reply #117 on: October 12, 2020, 09:59:36 PM »
Gotta give props to you Fuzz, the pee wee gif is pretty damn funny 

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« Reply #118 on: October 12, 2020, 10:07:32 PM »

The TN coaching job was just as attractive as AL's when Saban took the AL job. :s_laugh:



President Harry S. Truman said: “The fundamental basis of this nation’s laws was given to Moses on the Mount.  The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings…  If we don't have the proper fundamental moral background, we will finally wind up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the state.”

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« Reply #119 on: October 12, 2020, 11:14:29 PM »
The TN coaching job was just as attractive as AL's when Saban took the AL job.

I do like the meme but look at the facts. You tell me the better job when Saban took the AL job? AL was a disaster. 

Wins from 2003-2007
AL- 33 not counting the forfeits. 
TN- 44

2007 Alabama SEC 7-6 2-6 Vacated first five wins
2006 Alabama SEC 6-7 0-7 Vacated all six wins
2005 Alabama SEC 10-2 0-2 Vacated all ten wins.
2004 SEC 6 6 0 .500 5.77 0.68 Mike Shula (6-6) Music City Bowl-L
2003 SEC 4 9 0 .308 5.27 7.27 21 Mike Shula (4-9)

2007 SEC 10 4 0 .714 11.68 6.11 15 12 12 Phillip Fulmer (10-4) Outback Bowl-W
2006 SEC 9 4 0 .692 14.15 6.92 23 7 25 Phillip Fulmer (9-4) Outback Bowl-L
2005 SEC 5 6 0 .455 4.25 4.80 3 3 Phillip Fulmer (5-6)
2004 SEC 10 3 0 .769 11.69 5.00 14 9 13 Phillip Fulmer (10-3) Cotton Bowl-W
2003 SEC 10 3 0 .769 11.53 3.99 12 6 15 Phillip Fulmer (10-3) Peach Bowl-L


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« Reply #120 on: October 12, 2020, 11:46:35 PM »
The TN coaching job was just as attractive as AL's when Saban took the AL job.

I do like the meme but look at the facts. You tell me the better job when Saban took the AL job? AL was a disaster.

Wins from 2003-2007
AL- 33 not counting the forfeits.
TN- 44

2007 Alabama SEC 7-6 2-6 Vacated first five wins
2006 Alabama SEC 6-7 0-7 Vacated all six wins
2005 Alabama SEC 10-2 0-2 Vacated all ten wins.
2004 SEC 6 6 0 .500 5.77 0.68 Mike Shula (6-6) Music City Bowl-L
2003 SEC 4 9 0 .308 5.27 7.27 21 Mike Shula (4-9)

2007 SEC 10 4 0 .714 11.68 6.11 15 12 12 Phillip Fulmer (10-4) Outback Bowl-W
2006 SEC 9 4 0 .692 14.15 6.92 23 7 25 Phillip Fulmer (9-4) Outback Bowl-L
2005 SEC 5 6 0 .455 4.25 4.80 3 3 Phillip Fulmer (5-6)
2004 SEC 10 3 0 .769 11.69 5.00 14 9 13 Phillip Fulmer (10-3) Cotton Bowl-W
2003 SEC 10 3 0 .769 11.53 3.99 12 6 15 Phillip Fulmer (10-3) Peach Bowl-L
I hope you didn't waste too much time on all that irrelevant research.  

Saban had won a natty in Baton Rouge, was considered an elite college coach, and knew he could recruit to Tuscaloosa.  He would have wanted no part of Knoxville.  He wouldn't have gone to Arkansas or South Carolina, either.  He knew Bama was under-achieving just as surely as he knew we were over-achieving in the 90's when we were playing second fiddle to Florida in the East.  Now Georgia has gotten their act together, and there's no reason to expect TN to overtake them (where some fans inexplicably think "we belong").   At best, we're the 3rd most attractive program in the East, which is an 8-win/year type of team.  Face it.  

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Re: How Do You Like Phat Phil's Coach Tater Head Now?
« Reply #121 on: October 13, 2020, 12:45:01 AM »
Face it Fuzz, Tennessee is an elite program and Tater Head will be the first disciple to defeat Saban. 


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« Reply #122 on: October 13, 2020, 08:24:00 AM »
I have to say..you're grossly underpaid or have an extremely high regard for your talent to be a wannabe coach.
I happened to be a the Bama game at Legion Field when UT lost with Hinton as QB. If memory serves me correct we were unbaten at the time.
I doubt any coach in the country would change QB on the road at Legion Field when you're unbeaten.
I was also at the UT Auburn game when all Pat Ryan had to do was hold onto the ball for a couple of minutes to win the game and he fumbled the snap , Auburn recovered and Sullivan hooked up with Beasley for the winning TD in the closing seconds.
And if you think Daryl Dickey was a better QB than Tony Robison you're no judge of talent.
I loved DD but he inherited a team that was the most motivated of any of Major's teams.They refused to lose but if they had Robison UT would never have been tied by Ga Tech 6-6 the following week and would have likely won the NC. Dickey was an above average and smart QB that didn't beat his own team but he wasn't even close to Tony Robison's talent who was probably the most athletic QB in UT history ( including J.D.)
You don't have to school me on UT history. I was there for most of it.

Try telling that to Miami who was supposed to dominate UT in the Sugar bowl but Dickey did the dominating to the number one team in the country.

We lost to Georgia Tech because Majors handcuffed Dickey not letting him throw the ball playing not to lose as he did many times which Fulmer also did and yes I do know that because I was at the game.

  Like most people who judge quarterbacks you think it's all about being athletic or mobile.  There's more to playing the position than being able to scramble around which people like you don't seem to understand.

And when it comes to athletic quarterbacks Condrege Holloway was the best to ever play at UT or anywhere else as far as being the most athletic Robinson wasn't even close to what Holloway could do and wasn't half as smart either.
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« Reply #123 on: October 13, 2020, 08:28:07 AM »
And when it comes to athletic quarterbacks Condrege Holloway was the best to ever play at UT or anywhere else as far as being the most athletic Robinson wasn't even close to what Holloway could do and wasn't half as smart either.

Holloway (the Artful Dodger) and Dobbs were the two best quarterbacks UT ever had with their feet.  Holloway only had two supporting cast members of note - Stanley Morgan and Larry Seivers.

But no one, and I mean no one, had an arm like Tony Robinson.  A complete freak of nature.

Peyton had the best QB mind of anyone - which comes as no surprise.

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« Reply #124 on: October 13, 2020, 08:35:52 AM »
And when it comes to athletic quarterbacks Condrege Holloway was the best to ever play at UT or anywhere else as far as being the most athletic Robinson wasn't even close to what Holloway could do and wasn't half as smart either.

Holloway (the Artful Dodger) and Dobbs were the two best quarterbacks UT ever had with their feet.  Holloway only had two supporting cast members of note - Stanley Morgan and Larry Seivers.

But no one, and I mean no one, had an arm like Tony Robinson.  A complete freak of nature.

Peyton had the best QB mind of anyone - which comes as no surprise.





Peyton may not have been the most athletic but was the best quarterback by far because he loved the game and had the intelligence it takes to play the position.   If a QB doesn't have that being athletic means his just another RB playing the position.
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« Reply #125 on: October 13, 2020, 08:52:37 AM »
But no one, and I mean no one, had an arm like Tony Robinson.  A complete freak of nature.
I was in Neyland a few years ago and Robinson was there with a group of old-times getting honored for something and they were tossing footballs around and you could see that Robinson still had it.  There's just something unmistakably unique with his arm motion, the way the ball came off his fingers, the tilt of the perfect spiral, and that effortless laser he put wherever he wanted.  I'd forgotten what it looked like until I saw him throwing again.  He coulda been one of the all-time greats to ever step foot on the gridiron.  

Jeff George was another guy who had a magical arm that never achieved greatness that comes to mind, but I digress.

 

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