UTk Logo

College Football Fan Site, CFB51 for TENNESSEE VOL FANS!!! Best FREE Tennessee Vol College Football Forum on the Internet!!!

One community smart about Tennessee College football with Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching discussions, topics surrounding the game, and reading of both original and aggregated news and commentary in our Publisher. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE Tennessee Fan Site and to take part in our Tennessee Vol community- a community with you- the user, the fan, and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean and clear place to interact.


Author

Topic: Florida looks awful

 (Read 4454 times)

awinatl

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 2067
  • Liked:
Re: Florida looks awful
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2023, 01:14:24 PM »
Some threads are like fine wine And others age like fine ripple 

Volbrigade/oU

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 99158
  • Liked:
Re: Florida looks awful
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2023, 01:21:05 PM »
Quote
They're going to improve, and if Tennessee doesn't bring their A-Game to Gainesville they will lose.



If Tennessee doesn't bring their A-game against UTSA, USC, UK, Mizzou, TAMU, et. al. --

they will lose.  

We knew that UF would set the tone for the rest of the season.  Tone officially set.  6-6 or worse is a REAL possibility.

I think we can do 8-4.  A top 25 regular season finish is still possible.  Yes, with Joe at QB.  If you concede Bama and UGA -- I don't, you never know -- that means we can only lose one more to the rest of the batch.

Suddenly, that's a tall order.  Doesn't look particularly likely.  But it CAN be done.  There's a lot of talent on this roster.  We ain't top 5, ain't gonna win the conference, ain't gonna make the playoffs.  The pressure's off.  Let's just go out and freekin' PLAY, man.  Play hard.  Play loose.  Have fun. 

Joe -- for the luvva Mike -- put a little more AIR under those long throws (an homage to Mike Gottdfried.  Him and Ron Franklin -- second only to John Ward himself.  Those were the days...).  PLEASE. 

You had Keyton all alone on the second series.  Missed him by five yards.  It was ten back in '21; an improvement... but still.

And you had Squirrel with a step and a half on the final drive:  just. out. of. reach.

We'll never know how accurate another end zone pass was on the same drive, cuz their guy WAS PULLING ON OUR GUY'S JERSEY for about five or ten yards.  RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE FREEKIN' REF.

Sumbich. 

jgvol

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 4846
  • Liked:
Re: Florida looks awful
« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2023, 01:22:52 PM »
Joe Milton could overthrow a government.

Volbrigade/oU

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 99158
  • Liked:
Re: Florida looks awful
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2023, 01:36:26 PM »
Joe Milton could overthrow a government.
Man -- you got it.
I turned that game off after his INT.  I've reached the age where I just ain't got time fo' dat.  I had it on record -- if we somehow came back and won (unlikely), I could watch it, zip through the half-hour woke commercial breaks, and save myself the dyspepsia.
I kept monitoring the score.  Ugh.
Finally turned it back on with 5 left.  Down by the final score.  Two TDs, we win.  Not out of the question.
The first damn play I saw, when I turned it on, was UF 4th and 1 at their 35.  We jump offside.
So.  Damn. Typical.
No way in hell they were gonna run a play.  They set us up: we fell for it.
That's some smart football, huh?
We stopped 'em, though.  Get the ball back.  Good field position.  Three to play (penalty cost us 2 crucial minutes). 
Joe moves us downfield like a champ.  Good passes, well placed.  Get into scoring position -- misses squirrel by a foot.  Two other crappy throws.  And an uncalled PI.
Ugh.
Joe.
You know what's going to happen, right?  Maybe they put Nico in at some point, maybe not.
But somebody's gonna take a chance on Joe in the pros.  Either 6th round, or FA.
He's seduced two coaches with that arm.  That frame.  "That is the making of a GREAT QB."
Some pro team is gonna put him on the roster, see if they can polish the diamond.
Ain't gonna happen.
"Joe -- here is a quarter.  Go call your mother, and tell her you'll never be a quarterback."

gymvol

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 13475
  • Liked:
Re: Florida looks awful
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2023, 02:11:26 PM »

I laugh when people say Milton can throw a football ninety yards. So what the receiver was only forty yards down the field.

Lets see if Heupel has the balls Saban has to start another QB after an embarrassing loss.

The odds on that are a 1000 to 1, Milton is his project and he will not admit it was a mistake to bring him to TN and that Harbaugh benched him for the same reason we are seeing now.
If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking.

George S. Patton

roadvol

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 10174
  • Liked:
Re: Florida looks awful
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2023, 02:51:24 PM »
Fyi...Milton threw 34 passes and had 2 overstrows but its sometimes rather difficult to be accurate when 
3-4 defenders hanging on you.
Not making excuses for Milton, he had a bad game . I thought his game management was worse than his passing accuracy.
but Milton was not the only one with a bad game,   the offensive line, the defensive backs and the entire defenfense in the first half and the coaching was the worst in the Haup Era. We threw almost zero passes vertical until the game was out of reach , this with the strongest arm in the universe.
So if we're going to fire the QB for a bad game are we also going to fire the coaches, the offensive line, the defensive first team and the coaching staff?

gymvol

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 13475
  • Liked:
Re: Florida looks awful
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2023, 03:14:39 PM »

Milton doesn't throw catchable balls most of the time they're like a froze rope and the receivers can't adjust to the them or handle how hard he throws at times.  His percentage is high because of all the screens he throws. Passes over ten yards his percentage drops way off with under thrown passes, throwing behind and over throwing receivers. Everyone can see it except the guy who makes the decision to play him. 

Like Sterling Hinton who lost his starting job to freshman Andy Kelly Joe's a great practice QB.

And the entire offense knows what we know and is responding to how the QB plays plus they can't stay on the field long enough to give the defense a rest.
If everyone is thinking alike then somebody isn't thinking.

George S. Patton

Volbrigade/oU

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 99158
  • Liked:
Re: Florida looks awful
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2023, 03:27:38 PM »
Fyi...Milton threw 34 passes and had 2 overstrows but its sometimes rather difficult to be accurate when
3-4 defenders hanging on you.
Not making excuses for Milton, he had a bad game . I thought his game management was worse than his passing accuracy.
but Milton was not the only one with a bad game,  the offensive line, the defensive backs and the entire defenfense in the first half and the coaching was the worst in the Haup Era. We threw almost zero passes vertical until the game was out of reach , this with the strongest arm in the universe.
So if we're going to fire the QB for a bad game are we also going to fire the coaches, the offensive line, the defensive first team and the coaching staff?
We got us a ticklish little situation here.
I agree with those that point out:  Hooker played behind Mays and Wright.
So did Joe last year -- and he looked pretty good when he did.  He hasn't had that luxury this year.
Joe came out that first series and looked PERFECT.  They floundered their first series.  We looked like we were playing Mizzou or UK last year on ours.  I thought "here we go.  A 3 or 4 TD beatdown of 'em, in the Swamp.  Just what the doctor ordered."
But oh, that overthrow of Keyton on the next series, as I recall...
What a difference that might've made.  Why, Joe?  Why throw it 70, when 60's a TD?
Look -- Joe didn't lose that game.  
But he sure didn't win it, either.
I think we got to ride Joe a little further.  But the ticklish part is:  how far?
You throw Nico in behind a weak line, you can destroy his confidence.  He's our franchise.  That's not a good idea. 
But if Joe continues to struggle, and Nico sits -- hello, transfer portal?

We need Joe to do better.  We need Mays back.  Cuz I'm telling you -- one of these days, Joe's gonna have one of those games.  In a zone.  Unconscious.  Putting the ball where it needs to go.  Toting the rock for a 40-yard ride, when the play calls for it.

I just hope it's not against Vandy.  Needs to happen sooner.  Next week wouldn't be too soon.

roadvol

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Default Avatar
  • Posts: 10174
  • Liked:
Re: Florida looks awful
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2023, 04:29:50 PM »
Good post. I agree with most. The only thing I might add is the coaches see these guys practice every day and if they thought Nico gave them the best chance to win  then he would be starting.
The only reason Nico would start now would be if the coaches concede the season and start grooming Nico for next year.

jgvol

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 4846
  • Liked:
Re: Florida looks awful
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2023, 04:44:37 PM »
Good post. I agree with most. The only thing I might add is the coaches see these guys practice every day and if they thought Nico gave them the best chance to win  then he would be starting.
The only reason Nico would start now would be if the coaches concede the season and start grooming Nico for next year.

Yep.  Heard that one before.  Joe must be one hell of a star in practice.

Cause if an injury didn't force Hooker into the game, Heupel may not be the apple of every Vol fans eye right now.

Basically -- Heupel isn't infallible, and has already chosen the wrong QB to start once, and he just may be doing it again --- with the same bum.

fuzzynavol

  • seeker of passage
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17503
  • Liked:
Re: Florida looks awful
« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2023, 05:48:25 PM »
The only reason Nico would start now would be if the coaches concede the season and start grooming Nico for next year.
GROOMING?


 

UT yeah!
Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.