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Topic: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M

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jgvol

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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2021, 07:03:46 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 20, 2020, 02:34:16 AM
Yes, much more exciting than 52-24.

Didn't age well.

Poor Gators. 
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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2021, 09:32:57 PM »
Quote from: jgvol on January 05, 2021, 07:03:46 PM
Didn't age well.

Poor Gators. 
Tell us about the last time Tennessee played a meaningful game in November.
I'll hang up and listen.
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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2021, 09:34:03 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on January 05, 2021, 09:37:10 AM
No, I meant H2H.  You (usually) only get one shot to prove who's best.  If both teams have similar records, whoever wins H2H is the best team.  That's who gets the trophy (if there is one). 

I will confess that sometimes one team is good but has an off day or some other factor (losing the HC, scandal) that can influence the outcome.  So if say an 8-4 team beats an 11-1 team you could make an argument that the 11-1 team was better overall.  For example, the 1998 Aggies defeated Kansas State, won the Big 12 but finished behind KSU in the final ranking. Alabama has not played in the SEC championship game at least once but went on to win the playoff. 

No doubt, in 2020, A&M was and is better than Florida. 
They certainly had the better season.  
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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2021, 05:08:26 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 05, 2021, 09:32:57 PM
Tell us about the last time Tennessee played a meaningful game in November.
I'll hang up and listen.

Probably 2016, when we lost to Vandy, and sealed Butch Jones fate (more or less), after costing us the Sugar Bowl.

But, hey, kick us while we're down.  I've gotten accustomed to it.  Doesn't even hurt anymore.

Still fun to gig a Gator, though, even if vicariously through other football programs.
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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2021, 02:00:41 AM »
Quote from: jgvol on January 06, 2021, 05:08:26 PM
Probably 2016, when we lost to Vandy, and sealed Butch Jones fate (more or less), after costing us the Sugar Bowl.

But, hey, kick us while we're down.  I've gotten accustomed to it.  Doesn't even hurt anymore.

Still fun to gig a Gator, though, even if vicariously through other football programs.
Try again.  
Tennessee already had lost the East before they played Vanderbilt that year.  
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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2021, 09:10:11 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 07, 2021, 02:00:41 AM
Try again. 
Tennessee already had lost the East before they played Vanderbilt that year. 

I don’t need to try again.  

I said lost the Sugar Bowl, not the east, which was lost late Oct, coming off a bye week, to a hapless, and overmatched USC team.  Inexcusable.  

We were still the favorite for the Sugar Bowl until  Vandy happened.  
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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2021, 12:10:28 PM »
With 3 SEC teams ranked in front of you in the CFP poll?  Mkay.
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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2021, 12:39:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 08, 2021, 12:10:28 PM
With 3 SEC teams ranked in front of you in the CFP poll?  Mkay.
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 08, 2021, 12:10:28 PM
With 3 SEC teams ranked in front of you in the CFP poll?  Mkay.

Right....

That’s why 8-4 Auburn played in it huh?

If not for the inexplicable Vandy loss UT would have been 9-3 and in the Sugar Bowl.  Not that hard. 

Not really sure why you continue belaboring the point. 
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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2021, 11:07:02 AM »
That was a bit of an odd year in the SEC, Bama was very good and the next best record was 9-4 by UF and Tenn.

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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2021, 04:39:40 PM »
Quote from: jgvol on January 08, 2021, 12:39:22 PM
Right....

That’s why 8-4 Auburn played in it huh?

If not for the inexplicable Vandy loss UT would have been 9-3 and in the Sugar Bowl.  Not that hard. 

Not really sure why you continue belaboring the point. 

Because Tennessee didn't matter in late 2016, lol.
I mean, just the sentence, "If we had beaten Vanderbilt..." LOL
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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2021, 01:45:56 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 12, 2021, 04:39:40 PM
Because Tennessee didn't matter in late 2016, lol.
I mean, just the sentence, "If we had beaten Vanderbilt..." LOL

Finally mattered in early 2016 and beat Florida's ass.   LOL

There was a few bright spots.

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Re: The Case of Florida and Texas A&M
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2021, 01:50:57 PM »
For sure, when I looked at their season, it was especially cruel - beat Florida and Georgia, then fall off a 3-game cliff.  That's rough, but you guys are used to it.
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