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Topic: SECCG: UGA vs LSU

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MikeDeTiger

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SECCG: UGA vs LSU
« on: November 29, 2022, 01:39:07 PM »
I know this is supposed to be a laugher, but seems like the CG ought to merit a thread.

I think LSU loses but will give UGA a tougher time than most expect.  Depends on which version of Daniels shows up.  Good-Daniels can probably make UGA sweat some.  Evil-Daniels will have LSU getting blanked.  The defense also forgot how to tackle last week, a la vs. Florida State....they're going to need to not do that again or UGA will make it ugly.

I don't know what the plausible path to an upset for LSU would be.  UGA is deeper, more talented, and more consistent.  I think what we're shooting for here is to not be blown off the field on defense and suffocated and blanked on offense.  Hopefully it's good experience on a big stage for all the kids who will be returning.   

Guess we've got to let UGA climb the hill to breaking even with us some time, right? :)

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Re: SECCG: UGA vs LSU
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2022, 03:53:30 PM »
Ha

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Re: SECCG: UGA vs LSU
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2022, 10:38:40 AM »
I'm not sure how LSU scores a point in this one, but I'll say

UGA  33
LSU  10

with the game being a bit better than that overall, but UGA piling on down the stretch as LSU's inferior depth wears them down and makes a couple of desperate plays UGA takes advantage of.  



...and with that, the game is almost certain to play out differently.  

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Re: SECCG: UGA vs LSU
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2022, 10:51:29 AM »
I think you're just trying to get me over confident so I don't wear my lucky shirt ...

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Re: SECCG: UGA vs LSU
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2022, 11:26:37 AM »
I didn't wear my lucky shirt last weekend and look what happened.  

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Re: SECCG: UGA vs LSU
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2022, 02:24:04 PM »
I hope we get a good bowl, I want to see what the team looks like with a month's rest against a good team.  Only having 71 schollys makes us pretty thin in some spots, which will be a big challenge against a team like UGA obviously.  I think we only have 3 DTs in rotation....they've been good this year, but....there's three of them.  If you can find success early it can snowball on a unit like that because they'll wear out quickly.  Maybe they'll last longer after a few weeks off.  

UGA's OL has been good.  If they push around the front early they'll do exactly what A&M did and just run it down our throat all game.  LBs Ojulari and Baskerville had probably their worst games last week....they need to burn the tape and move on. 

Anyway, this will be another good gauge of the kids who will return and the staff too.  I'm anxious to see how they do.  It'll take a couple years to build the roster back up, but there seems to be a nice core of young guys to build on.  Gotta get the depth at DL and DB back up though.  

I'm done for the week.....hopefully no injuries, hopefully no UGA guys hurt their abdomens laughing.....see ya Monday.  

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Re: SECCG: UGA vs LSU
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2022, 07:05:09 PM »
LSU put up a lot of points with deep passes.  I am sure Day noticed that.

UGA got some breaks early.

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Re: SECCG: UGA vs LSU
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2022, 12:32:24 PM »
...was a little like watching a high school senior beat up a kindergartener.  

That said, much like the bowl against K-State last year, I'm a lot prouder than I expected to be in a beatdown.  The starting front 7 played well nearly all year (sans A&M) and they did it again vs. a great line and QB.  Forget the total rush yards, watch the tape and look at how well they stuffed UGA until they wore out.  They got after Stetson Bennett pretty well too....when you pressure a guy like that and he still makes the play, that's a credit to him and those TE's, not a knock on the defensive front.  The secondary was nearly worthless, but we knew that going in.  That unit needs not only depth, they need legit starters.  They're cobbled together almost completely from the transfer portal.....thanks, O.  But I thought the front 7 played great for the lack of depth they have.  

Check this out: Per PFF, every one of LSU's 4 starting DL played at least 53 of 76 snaps.  Wingo played 74/76 and Ojulari played all 76.  On average, the starting DL played 87% of the snaps.  By comparison, none of UGA's starting DL played more than 45 of 75 snaps, with an average of just 32 snaps for 43% of total plays.  That is a massive gap in depth.  I think one of the most impressive things about UGA was I swear I counted like 70 different guys out there in meaningful time.  

The LSU offense just wasn't itself.  The running game--and really the whole offense--is predicated on Daniels' run threat.  Without his threat, our traditional rushing attack is not good, even when we're not playing a team like UGA.  He threw the ball well, which is what we hoped for, but I didn't realize how hobbled he still was and the offense was clearly hamstrung.  But I thought overall our receivers showed they can play with anybody when given a chance.  The OL is very young and performed acceptably...I'm bullish on that unit in the long term.  We need much better RBs as much as we need secondary guys.  The run game just isn't there right now without a mobile QB.  

There were two fluky plays that got UGA 14 points for a 21-7 lead, and we never got close again.  We weren't going to win that game no matter what, but it did feel like they showed well despite the score and if not for Daniel's injury and the crazy plays, we could've made them sweat harder.  But as BK said immediately after the game, "Could've should've, would've....but the best team won today."  On the whole I felt like the good pieces we do have right now are at the level we need already....just gotta get depth and some better talent at a couple key spots.  They never quit on the game and kept fighting to make a statement about who they are.  From BK's post-game presser:  "I don't think there's anything that can take away from what this team did on the field.  It brings to light the progress we made and the things we need to work on.  It clearly defines who we want to be.  And we're not there yet.  And that's ok."  I agree.  


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Re: SECCG: UGA vs LSU
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2022, 12:49:09 PM »
Re:  UGA

As they have with everyone this year, they were able to create conflict in personnel, keeping LSU in its base which opened favorable looks for the Dawgs, which they took again and again and again.  Great game-plan by Monken, and LSU didn't have an answer.  I don't know that anybody does at the moment with both the TE's on the field at the same time.  The way our game went, at least, Bennett would've needed to have a bad day, but he didn't.  Maybe one of the playoff teams can find a blueprint, but Georgia's plan was great.  It seems to me the only reason they scored so much more on LSU than they do most teams is simple:  LSU ultimately kept scoring back and kept them from being able to sit back and ice the game.  

UGA proved they could get roped into a different kind of game and still dominate.  

For their defense, I don't really know how much to read into the second half with Nussmeier at QB.  There's not much film on him, so UGA feasibly was playing defense a bit blind there.  And while maybe it technically wasn't junk time yet with LSU starting to score, having a 25 pt. lead at halftime has to do something to the mentality of a team.  I'd be more concerned with how well LSU moved the ball in the first half, even with Daniels' injury taking away the primary element of the offense.  He's a pretty decent passer when he's on, but you don't want to see him go for 208 passing in a half when he can't even run and both UGA and LSU know it.  If the second half defense has to be nitpicked, I'd say a pocket passer having success when there's zero threat of a run game and the opponent is playing catchup and you know 90% of the plays are going be passes, I guess you don't want to see a one-dimensional offense like that score points.  But again.....nobody knew what to expect from the particulars of Nussmeier's game and the defense may have been halfway to round 1 of the playoffs in their head.  

I can't necessarily bring myself to be concerned about UGA's secondary ("concerned" as a neutral observer, obviously)...all due respect to Tennessee, I truly believe LSU's receiving corps is the best UGA has seen and will be likely to see, when they're given a chance with a good QB day.  There's a glut of talent at that spot and if they make some plays and get some yards....eh, I just don't how big of a problem it is.  

But I imagine Ohio State saw it and will ready to test it.  

 

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