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« Reply #1120 on: November 10, 2025, 01:52:56 PM »
The fandom of this sport entails weird psychology.

I've mentioned here multiple times that it feels like I'll probably stop watching at some point, having to do NIL/xfer portal, but also other stuff I won't go into here.  And when I say that, I actually mean it, or think I do. 

Losses don't crush me, neither do bad seasons, and wins don't excite me.  Not much, anyway.  Definitely nothing like they used to. 

And--not to toot my own horn....well, okay, probably, yes, horn-tooting in full swing--I've always had such a great, non-homer sense of my own team that very little ever surprises me.  Meaning, the games and the season go like I thought they would, far more than the surprises the reality of the games throw at me. 

As such, the Alabama game, for example, went exactly like I thought it would. 

So, to recap:  I pretty well knew what was going to happen, I don't care about the team winning, and I don't care about the team losing....much. 

And yet, I watched anyway.  I found myself thinking Saturday night that I was just going through the motions, which I have been for quite a while now, so why was I bothering?  It seems that no matter my level of excitement or enjoyment, there is some interest--which is different--to see how things actually go, regardless of my feelings about it, or lack thereof.  I also found myself thinking that if I haven't stopped watching by now, maybe I never actually will, and it's just something I tell myself and others, believing it, while not realizing that it's probably not true. 

Time will tell. 
I kind of think it's natural for your interest to flow and ebb as you age.  I know myself I just found it so difficult to keep connected with football over the years.  Work, kids, other priorities, family.  It's easy to just not have time for it.  Not to mention when you're team literally lays an egg 4/5 years, without the hardware to keep you interested at least 10-20% of the time.  LSU has won so much in the last 20 years you should be very lucky to have witnessed those years.  

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« Reply #1121 on: November 10, 2025, 02:13:27 PM »
Oh believe me, I'm extremely glad to have lived through many of the LSU seasons I lived through.  I was vaguely aware of LSU football when I was a kid because my dad brought me to Ole Miss games, and it's just a cultural thing when you grow up in Baton Rouge.  But I was big into basketball back then.  It was my favorite sport to play, so I guess it's natural that it was what most interested me.  There were some decent teams in the late 80's, but I kinda knew about them, moreso than followed them.  And of course, games weren't on TV so much back then.  

Then when I got a little more interested--about middle school--the 90's happened, where we were awful for a decade.  Like, 3-8 awful.  It sucked to pay attention more and get more interested and the team be so bad, but it was what it was.  

When Saban turned things around it was a magical time.  I never took the Les Miles years for granted and I've been harsh on the hordes of LSU fans who did/do.  

I think I trace the death of my give-a-damn to a specific point in the 2014 LSU/Alabama game.  It didn't happen all at once, but I clearly recall a moment when I thought, "What am I doing?  Why do I care so much?  I'm not so sure this interests me like it did."  The interest was still rather strong at that point, though.  

I hate to say this, but that snowballed the next few years, and, unfortunately, while I gave it a lot of lip service, the 2019 season never excited me or caused me to care like I wished I did.  I was fully aware of what I was watching.  I knew I should be loving the hell out of it.  But it never meant as much to me as 2003, for example, or 2007.  Or other seasons that didn't end with NCs.  One sad piece of evidence of that is I can't name tons of guys from that team, just the major stars, really.  otoh, I can still remember the backup left-guard from the 2005 team, and a long list of people like him, from many years.  I remember events and game-flow from specific games, who we played, what point in the season we played them, all the narratives.

Literally, I can't remember who we played earlier this year.  The other day I saw something about us winning against Vanderbilt last year and I thought to myself "We played Vandy last year?"  

But, ask me about LSU vs. Vandy circa 2005, and I can tell you tons about that game, even where I was watching it and with who.  

Just seems like if 2019 inspired a "That's nice" from me, and everything since has merited a "Sucking sucks.  Oh well," then it becomes clear something just isn't hitting like it used to.    
 


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« Reply #1122 on: November 10, 2025, 08:30:50 PM »
No, the schedule was pre-set, made sense, and nearly as equitable as could be prior to A&M and Mizzou joining in 2012.  It was very similar to the Big 12 scheduling rotation before Nebraska and Colorado exited around the same time. 

I've explained this to you before. 
Ah, so you have. Pardonnez moi, por favor!
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« Reply #1123 on: November 10, 2025, 09:51:09 PM »
The powers that be had to have been presented with equitable scheduling where everyone played everyone else very frequently and said "nah, our way of pulling it out of our asses where A&M plays UGA once a decade is the right call."

And no, it's not even for 2026 and beyond, just more even.  Tennessee was handed 2 cupcakes for the next four years.  

But the willful choice to actively go with the worse option is the problem we've dealt with, at least lately.  It's fucking stupid.  It's embarrassing.
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« Reply #1124 on: November 11, 2025, 06:31:55 AM »

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« Reply #1125 on: November 11, 2025, 06:32:51 AM »

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« Reply #1126 on: November 11, 2025, 03:13:22 PM »
The powers that be had to have been presented with equitable scheduling where everyone played everyone else very frequently and said "nah, our way of pulling it out of our asses where A&M plays UGA once a decade is the right call."

And no, it's not even for 2026 and beyond, just more even.  Tennessee was handed 2 cupcakes for the next four years. 

But the willful choice to actively go with the worse option is the problem we've dealt with, at least lately.  It's fucking stupid.  It's embarrassing.

Re the bolded, I assume that you are referring to the "permanent rivals" (or whatever they are called) for each program. I don't assert that the SEC made perfect choices there, but I do think that it was a tough assignment.

Each program was motivated to (1) preserve its permanent rivalry (or rivalries) and/or (2) have the easiest possible remaining permanent opponents.

I haven't seen anything about the methodology used to determine those "permanent" opponents. Did each school submit a list of "druthers" in ranked order? Was it all done in a smoke-filled room? Or in a dark room where mushrooms are fertilized with horse dung? Or in an open manner in which every school had representatives present? Was the stated criterion, in which the bottom 8 programs would get one top 8 opponent and two bottom 8 opponents, while each top 8 program would get two top 8 opponents and one bottom 8 opponent, met? Was it clear to each school which tier it was in?

Top 8: Georgia, Bama, LSU . . . ?

Bottom 8: Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, South Carolina . . . ?

From OU's perspective, we had to have Texas on the list of permanents. After that, I suspect we stated some preferences that may or may not have been met. We got Texas and we certainly could have done worse in our other two permanents.

In any event, the permanent rivals will be re-evaluated after four years (I'd make it eight years if I were king), so there's potential for evening things out if that needs to be done.
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Re: SEC Front Porch
« Reply #1127 on: November 11, 2025, 03:58:12 PM »
Re the bolded, I assume that you are referring to the "permanent rivals" (or whatever they are called) for each program. I don't assert that the SEC made perfect choices there, but I do think that it was a tough assignment.

Each program was motivated to (1) preserve its permanent rivalry (or rivalries) and/or (2) have the easiest possible remaining permanent opponents.

I haven't seen anything about the methodology used to determine those "permanent" opponents. Did each school submit a list of "druthers" in ranked order? Was it all done in a smoke-filled room? Or in a dark room where mushrooms are fertilized with horse dung? Or in an open manner in which every school had representatives present? Was the stated criterion, in which the bottom 8 programs would get one top 8 opponent and two bottom 8 opponents, while each top 8 program would get two top 8 opponents and one bottom 8 opponent, met? Was it clear to each school which tier it was in?

Top 8: Georgia, Bama, LSU . . . ?

Bottom 8: Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, South Carolina . . . ?

From OU's perspective, we had to have Texas on the list of permanents. After that, I suspect we stated some preferences that may or may not have been met. We got Texas and we certainly could have done worse in our other two permanents.

In any event, the permanent rivals will be re-evaluated after four years (I'd make it eight years if I were king), so there's potential for evening things out if that needs to be done.

In reality:

OAM's all upset about Tenn drawing KY, and Vandy --- which was done at the behest of Kentucky and Vandy, us being both their cheif rival, and 1 certain stadium filler for THEM, not US.  We fill our stadium regardless.

Also, it makes historical sense being that TN/KY is the 3rd oldest rivalry in the SEC, and TN/Vandy being the 4th.




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« Reply #1128 on: Today at 09:24:32 AM »
Two of our three perma-rivals are ranked #3 and #11 right now.  How is that fair???







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