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Kingsvol

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« on: September 09, 2025, 04:20:49 PM »
I just heard that Florida fired Dan Mullen when his record at 40 games was 31-9.  The same exact record of Urban Meyer at 40 games.  That’s insane.  Of course ole Billy’s record at 40 games is now 20-20.  Even ole shark jumper (can’t recall his name) was fired with a 22-12 record.  Yes he couldn’t even make it to 40 games.

Can anyone confirm this?  Why so forgiving on Billy when Dan had a hell of a record through 40 games?

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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2025, 04:32:57 PM »
I just heard that Florida fired Dan Mullen when his record at 40 games was 31-9.  The same exact record of Urban Meyer at 40 games.  That’s insane.  Of course ole Billy’s record at 40 games is now 20-20.  Even ole shark jumper (can’t recall his name) was fired with a 22-12 record.  Yes he couldn’t even make it to 40 games.

Can anyone confirm this?  Why so forgiving on Billy when Dan had a hell of a record through 40 games?
Mullen did have a 31-9 record after 40 games, but he was fired the next year, before the end of the season, with an overall record of 36-15.
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« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2025, 07:14:42 AM »
Napier also likely has a much higher buyout clause, though that one is dropping as time passes of course.  I don't think it's much of a factor today.

Napier was on the ropes last season and ended it with some solid unexpected wins, so they retained him.

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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2025, 08:05:08 AM »
there is also an element of availability in play, too.  if a school has a big fish on the line they'll bag even a modestly decent coach - if there is no decent coaches available, they'll stick with the bad one while quietly hunting. 

that last part is a lesson UT learned... a few times.  they went from bad to worse to worse to worse still.... and sandwiched in there was one that was bad, too, everyone forgets about- Rodriguez... interim or not.  they'd made such a mess of it no good coaches would bite.  it took a Danny White AD hire and him bringing his HC with him, which at the time i figured was a bad plan, to get a decent coach... and he's more than decent.  

Foley was the premier AD, by my reckoning, in all the land.  when UF lost him, they became mortal and lost their bite not long following.  White seems to have taken over that role, since.  Hopefully UT won't be shopping for a HC anytime soon, but if they do?  I have a feeling White will handle it differently than the solely focused profit and margin AD's prior to him by applying some long range goals instead of quick payouts...  

..... and to make a prediction- I wager IF already has their horse... they're just smart enough to keep it wrapped, unlike the shit show others have put on and none better than UT.  it'll be interesting watching how bama handles their replacement... i haven't heard dabo mentioned once in those circles, when he was the heir apparent not two years ago... how fickle that field is.... 

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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2025, 06:55:06 PM »
Mullen was fired for not caring about recruiting, getting blown out by UGA and USCe, and giving up 50+ points to Samford.  
And he was acting fucking weird, like he was wanting out.

As long as we don't get down to our 29th choice for a new HC, we'll be doing better than UT.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2025, 09:06:03 PM »
Mullen was fired for not caring about recruiting, getting blown out by UGA and USCe, and giving up 50+ points to Samford. 
And he was acting fucking weird, like he was wanting out.

As long as we don't get down to our 29th choice for a new HC, we'll be doing better than UT.

Just doesn’t hit as hard these days, eh?  😆

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2025, 09:43:13 AM »
I would be hesitant to fire a coach (other than for Cause) without a really good option already lined up and more or less in the bag.


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« Reply #7 on: Today at 11:05:29 AM »
No such thing in CFB as a sure thing. But when it’s obvious that your current coach is not only NOT working out and possibly doing more harm by staying, you cut them loose ASAP. Case in point…Dennis Franchione…Charlie Strong…Chad Morris.  The list is endless. 

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« Reply #8 on: Today at 11:24:48 AM »
No such thing in CFB as a sure thing. But when it’s obvious that your current coach is not only NOT working out and possibly doing more harm by staying, you cut them loose ASAP. Case in point…Dennis Franchione…Charlie Strong…Chad Morris.  The list is endless.
I'm not saying that that idea is wrong, but . . . . After you've fired the coach in mid-season, what then? That presents its own problems.
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« Reply #9 on: Today at 11:34:31 AM »
I guess you start the process to hire a new coach while you have an intern coach finish the season.  It pretty much happens every year. A&M did it with Jimbo Fisher.  Sometimes the intern coach will finish strong and get consideration to be the new HC. I think this is how Dabo Swinney got the job at Clemson, and Marcus Freeman at ND. Most times this path proves to be disastrous. 

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« Reply #10 on: Today at 03:58:55 PM »
I guess you start the process to hire a new coach while you have an intern coach finish the season.  It pretty much happens every year. A&M did it with Jimbo Fisher.  Sometimes the intern coach will finish strong and get consideration to be the new HC. I think this is how Dabo Swinney got the job at Clemson, and Marcus Freeman at ND. Most times this path proves to be disastrous.
Yep. Drawbacks to whatever course you choose.

It's bizarre how much coaches get paid. And it's crazy how the buyout costs work to keep floundering highly paid coaches from being fired when it is clear that they aren't cutting the mustard.
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