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If the NCAA adds another year to the bowl ban, all their players can walk without sitting a year.

If the NCAA hits Ole Miss with those sanctions, it'll take Eli's grandkids to make them relevant again.

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USC got some pretty strong penalties. It's still in the recovery process. Recovering from Kiffin too I guess.


The better question is which school will replace Ole Miss in the SEC? They are about to be neutered to the point of being a non-factor and not able to compete on that level.

Maybe that they didn't is more proof that Miami is a helmet?


And UNC is a hoops darling...

USC was taken down by one player - Bush - who accepted money but not from the coaches.


Ole Miss is how many? The whole team? All of the coaches?


Different cases.

The NCAA response basically says OM was still cheating and lying about it after thet received the initial NCAA letter of allegations. That Freeze and other coaches didn't do their due diligence when a handler claimed he had a previous relationship with recruits he was channeling to OM, that they continued to use the handler after his relationship with recruits was questioned. That they were using burner phones to hide contact with recruits and boosters and that Freeze was aware of all of it.

They are toast.

[member=35]DevilFroggy[/member] , yeah, i am/was... but my memory is shit, anymore, since my head was bumped. 

the agent thing, and there were more signed than just Bush... there were like three, iirc.  that agency fell through after marketing their brand with both Bush and the other two, and on video- all of this was public record from the law suits of the people who were swindled by the agency- which should have made 'investigating' an easy task for the NCAA... just pass by the courthouse and get transcripts...

meanwhile, Carol says straight up he wasn't going to cooperate with the NCAA investigation after ignoring it for a good while, and then curiously bouncing to the NFL from one of the pinnacles of the game @ USC....  at the same time OU/Stoops was getting hammered with the cars sales thing, and all the information the NCAA received was from their 'self reporting'.  I clearly recall Stoops saying ".. the takeaway here is simply NOT to self report.. I'll never do that again.". 

admittedly, my memory is jacked up- but.. it surely seems these things happened.. and if they did, and if the school knew about it (S&C coach knew iirc, and was in on the scheme, as well as maybe the DLine coach at the time? I think the other two players were DL'men)... that is about as bad as anything we've seen since SMU.  well, then happens along Baylor, UNCCH and OM... OM is, just... stupid.  UNCCH is devious... wtf was Baylor thinking? ........... and i didn't even touch on the PSU thing, which transcends the absurdity which is the NCAA and makes your skin crawl considering what people will do for the almighty win (inaction in such circumstances being more gross than cheating)- crossing silly collegiate association rules and regulations and decisively into criminal and just plain inhuman treatment of those they were entrusted to protect.

at any rate..... it's not USCw hate- it's cynicism toward the NCAA, instead... for instance, i cringe to think of the things kiffin was doing at UT that went unpunished- and when the NCAA had cause to investigate... kinda lucked out on that one being a UT fan, but i still recognize the hypocrisy of the NCAA when a school that doesn't register near the income as UT brings in for the NCAA slapped for something stupid... and that, imHo, is the meat of the subject, and which binds each of them. 
 

On a slightly different note, it just so happens that the fine folks of the Committee on Infractions are meeting in Nashville today with representatives from UNC, including Roy Williams and Larry "The Hat" Fedora. Should be interesting since UNC is arguing that its sub-standard classes scandal is an academic issue not subject to the purview of the NCAA's enforcement actions. I imagine Syracuse fans will be particularly interested in any punishment meted out to UNC.