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Topic: Foley my Foley, where art thou?

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Drew4UTk

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Foley my Foley, where art thou?
« on: November 14, 2021, 10:40:03 AM »
I think that was his name, anyway. ...

The former AD at UF.  

He was perhaps the best AD ever.  He was certainly the best in his time.  And without him? UF is slipping.  Every coaching hire was good, and if hinted otherwise? He'd set them free.  I dont know how he structured contracts so well, but he did.... maybe he just had a few armored wagons worth of cash to play with others dont- but whatever the cause, I bet UF is wanting him back... Mullen ain't the answer.  

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Re: Foley my Foley, where art thou?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2021, 05:53:25 PM »
It almost became comical over the years how much better Foley was at his job than his counterpart at LSU, then-AD Joe Alleva.  He was mostly a figurehead, so I'm not talking about the nuts and bolts, but as far as the job he was actually tasked with, public relations type stuff....I lost count of how many times Foley completely owned him in a battle of wits.  There's several times LSU and Florida butted heads that almost every neutral observer I've talked to agreed with LSU on the facts at hand, but by the time Alleva and Foley got done with media statements, unless you really paid attention and knew the details of everything, Foley was just so much better at crafting and selling a narrative.  And as good as he was at it, Alleva was that bad. 

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Re: Foley my Foley, where art thou?
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2021, 10:36:09 AM »
And without Foley.......

Does UF have a coach in the wings? If not, Foley ain't happy with them. 

By my reckoning and for several coaching changes observed at UT, THAT is the mark of a program that is making a rational and informed decision... they have a coach already positioned.  UT didn't do that.  The poster boy (as in mug shot) prior was Nebraska (UT said "hold my beer")...

Who out there, they don't have to poach, is worthy?  Are they coming for LK? JH? How about Stoops? The guy from Coastal Carolina?

Gotta say... watching UF flop about is rather satisfying considering the smack talk of their fan base over the years. 

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Re: Foley my Foley, where art thou?
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2021, 11:43:09 AM »
The guy I'd most fear is Lane Kiffin.

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Re: Foley my Foley, where art thou?
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2021, 09:24:05 PM »
Ron Zook?

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Re: Foley my Foley, where art thou?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2021, 12:04:51 PM »
If they really get Napier I can't say I look forward to that.  He's no guarantee of course, but I would be quite bullish on a major program like Florida with him at the helm.  

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Re: Foley my Foley, where art thou?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2021, 07:15:53 PM »
Well, we got our 1st choice.

Tennessee fans, your thoughts?
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: Foley my Foley, where art thou?
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2021, 11:22:39 PM »
My thoughts are it's a risky move.  Based on your own comments about Leahy (sp?)- the best college football coach to have ever lived and from Mt Union, and from past conversations about expectations and production at higher levels ( @OrangeAfroMan ) , I'd guess you're suspect too? 

If not, what changed your mind?  If so, what are your concerns? 

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Re: Foley my Foley, where art thou?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2021, 05:42:10 PM »
Well, we got our 1st choice.

Tennessee fans, your thoughts?

Yeah, sure.  1st choice....PFFTTT

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Re: Foley my Foley, where art thou?
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2021, 06:04:48 PM »
Can't know for sure, but based on what we can find out, it looks to me like Napier was their first choice.  We can't know who is at the top of his list, but I do know Stricklin interviewed Napier first and then terminated the process.  He liked how the interview went and offered him a job.  

LSU on the other hand...harder to know.  Speculation on my part, but I imagine it's disingenuous for the brass to say Riley was purely a smokescreen (they haven't said that, or anything, really, I'm speaking hypothetically).  I believe the interest in Riley was real.  jmo.  I say that because if Kelly had been in the bag all along, I think they would've announced on Sunday.  No good reason to wait til yesterday.  That said, the people further up who have been claiming they were locked out of this process and that only 3 or 4 people really knew what was going on are now saying they have reason to believe Kelly was initially offered a while back but turned LSU down, and Woody came back to him harder when Riley moved on.  IF that were the case, then in a sense, LSU would've gotten their "first choice."  

Don't imagine we'll ever know.  One thing Woodward has proven so far is he knows how to keep a much tighter lid on things than Alleva ever did.  

The hire itself....well, I'm on record as liking Napier at Florida.  He'll have to prove it at a major school, but he's young, likable, hungry, coached under some of the best, and just led Lafayette to probably their best run in history.  Lot of upside there.  

Kelly at LSU....I think he's a total dick, but I see some upside there too.  He's the most accomplished football hire LSU has ever had, doing more at this point prior to coming than any previous LSU coach.  No sure thing he's going to fit in around here, but he probably has a floor that's higher than what O has put us through the last two years.  He's recruited ND about as well as you can for an unlikable area with no local talent pool, with tougher admission requirements than he'll have at LSU.  Maybe he can get some better talent and clean up that dismal record against top 5 teams.  

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Re: Foley my Foley, where art thou?
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2021, 10:37:28 PM »
Kelly should feel like the restrictor plate's been removed, in terms of skill-position talent.  
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