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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on December 02, 2018, 04:45:05 PM
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Destination envy
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easy win for the Boilers, Auburn won't be highly motivated
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I don't think it will be easy. Purdue has games where they like to give the ball away. I do hope Auburn shows up disappointed.
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I went to this a few years ago when ND played LSU. It's a fun easy trip because the stadium is right next to all the bars.
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much better destination than NYC
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I’m confident Purdue will show up focused and the players will gladly give the coaches a deserved effort, especially with Brohm sticking around. Quite the underrated Big Ten story.
But I don’t have high hopes for Auburn. Gus & staff have underperformed in Bowls, I’m not sure the Tigers’ roster will be properly motivated, even though for the coaches finishing 8-5 sounds so much better than 7-6, and all my Auburn “connections” are staying home for this one, which is a bummer because as already pointed out this Bowl provides an entertaining setting.
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If Auburn wants it, it could get ugly. Otherwise it's anyone's game.
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Not the matchup I was hoping for...
Talent-wise, Auburn is going to be deeper at probably almost every position. I was hoping for a team that was closer to Purdue's situation, not a team stacked with highly-rated players that underperformed.
In some ways this becomes a "can't win" situation. Lose, and you've lost to a 7-5 Auburn team in a tailspin. Win, and you beat an "unmotivated" Auburn.
Still, given the options, let's just hope Purdue goes out and cleans their clocks.
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There is something wrong with Auburn, and usually that means coaching. As noted, they have some talent but seem to underperform routinely.
They also barely lost to a decent LSU team and came back to beat a decent A&M and then lost to Tennessee, at home, which is almost hard to believe. I guess they are a slightly better than middlin team that is up and down, kind of almost sorta like they are 7-5.
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Auburn just lost their OC to an OC job at...... Kansas.
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chances are, Auburn will find a better OC for the bowl game
look out Boilers
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There is something wrong with Auburn, and usually that means coaching. As noted, they have some talent but seem to underperform routinely.
They also barely lost to a decent LSU team and came back to beat a decent A&M and then lost to Tennessee, at home, which is almost hard to believe. I guess they are a slightly better than middlin team that is up and down, kind of almost sorta like they are 7-5.
Exactly. As much as Purdue has been up and down [losing to EMU/Minnesota, beating BC/OSU/Iowa], we know that to an extent in those wins they were overachieving their talent level, whereas Auburn is underachieving their talent level.
I just hope we catch them napping, upset that they're up against "just Purdue". But if their coaches have any sense [debatable I know] they're going to be pointing out the three ranked teams that Purdue upset, so the Auburn players don't look past us. And I'll bet they'll be reminding those players of what UCF did to them too, and that Purdue is more than capable of doing the same if they aren't "motivated".
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Destination envy
Yeah, no kidding. If UW were headed here, I'd be going.
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Auburn is a good tough team but they aren't some world beater. They struggle on offense and if Purdue can keep their scoring down they certainly have a shot to win.
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Yeah, no kidding. If UW were headed here, I'd be going.
My fam and I are going. No way in hell was I going to NYC, and while I have pals in Detroit, I'll take the 5.5 hr drive into the warmer direction.
Tough game for Purdue especially with our D Line dropping left and right after being a big weakness most of the season anyway.
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Very excited for the match up btw. Purdue's 1st ever game vs a school from Bama.
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Not the matchup I was hoping for...
Talent-wise, Auburn is going to be deeper at probably almost every position. I was hoping for a team that was closer to Purdue's situation, not a team stacked with highly-rated players that underperformed.
In some ways this becomes a "can't win" situation. Lose, and you've lost to a 7-5 Auburn team in a tailspin. Win, and you beat an "unmotivated" Auburn.
Still, given the options, let's just hope Purdue goes out and cleans their clocks.
Exactly. As much as Purdue has been up and down [losing to EMU/Minnesota, beating BC/OSU/Iowa], we know that to an extent in those wins they were overachieving their talent level, whereas Auburn is underachieving their talent level.
I just hope we catch them napping, upset that they're up against "just Purdue". But if their coaches have any sense [debatable I know] they're going to be pointing out the three ranked teams that Purdue upset, so the Auburn players don't look past us. And I'll bet they'll be reminding those players of what UCF did to them too, and that Purdue is more than capable of doing the same if they aren't "motivated".
Word early in the broadcast is that Malzahn showed the Auburn players the last minute of the UCF game shortly before this game to remind them what losing feels like.
This is why I said this was a crap matchup for Purdue.
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Word early in the broadcast is that Malzahn showed the Auburn players the last minute of the UCF game shortly before this game to remind them what losing feels like.
This is why I said this was a crap matchup for Purdue.
He had plenty of more recent footage of bad losses to show them
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Auburn seemed ok on offense.
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I took every Big Ten team but Iowa in my pool, with trepidation, but after those first two, I was feeling good. I thought I put more confidence points on Purdue than I actually did, but I fell from 1 point t out of first to way down the chart because a lot of people had a lot of points on Auburn.
I don't actually think MSU will win either, but even when I don't think they will, I take them and put 1 point on them, bc why not?
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wow, that was an old fashion curb stomping.
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How did they hold the Tigers to one TD in the second half?
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Running clock and two possessions ending inside the Purdue 5.
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How did they hold the Tigers to one TD in the second half?
Auburn brought in the 2nd and 3rd team players and ran the ball on every down to make it easy on us.
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Hard to know the right thing to do in that situation, on the Auburn side of things. What's the least disrespectful thing to do? What do you owe your backups? Run your offense with the starters = no. Run your offense with the backups is okay...unless they're too effective. Then you just run the ball up the middle every play with your backups, which isn't really respecting anyone, it's barely football. When you're in FG range, is going for it on 4th down polite? What if you keep getting the 1st downs? Then you look like an A-hole. But FGs put more points on the board.
Basically, in this instance, Auburn mercy-ruled PU and there were no right answers. Awkward to watch, even envisioning yourself as a PU player/coach or AU player/coach.
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Clearly Purdue didn't show up.
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Osborne once sent a grad assistant to Sonny Lubick, who was a friend, at halftime vs. Colo st. and told him he was going to run to the tackles the 2nd half. FB, IB, QB keeps .
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Exactly. As much as Purdue has been up and down [losing to EMU/Minnesota, beating BC/OSU/Iowa], we know that to an extent in those wins they were overachieving their talent level, whereas Auburn is underachieving their talent level.
I just hope we catch them napping, upset that they're up against "just Purdue". But if their coaches have any sense [debatable I know] they're going to be pointing out the three ranked teams that Purdue upset, so the Auburn players don't look past us. And I'll bet they'll be reminding those players of what UCF did to them too, and that Purdue is more than capable of doing the same if they aren't "motivated".
You are clumping the loss to Minnesota in with the loss to EMU? I didn't realize that the 6-7 Boilermakers should have expected to beat the 7-6 Gophers rather than lose 41-10.
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Auburn is a good tough team but they aren't some world beater. They struggle on offense
This is why you and I need to learn to lay low in the area of predictions.
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Hard to know the right thing to do in that situation, on the Auburn side of things. What's the least disrespectful thing to do? What do you owe your backups? Run your offense with the starters = no. Run your offense with the backups is okay...unless they're too effective. Then you just run the ball up the middle every play with your backups, which isn't really respecting anyone, it's barely football. When you're in FG range, is going for it on 4th down polite? What if you keep getting the 1st downs? Then you look like an A-hole. But FGs put more points on the board.
Basically, in this instance, Auburn mercy-ruled PU and there were no right answers. Awkward to watch, even envisioning yourself as a PU player/coach or AU player/coach.
I know what the Badgers would have done.
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A good something of this is information for Brohm as to how his team matches up against a more talented team in another conference. He probably knew this going into the game of course, but he can see on film how his lines were getting abused. The announcer talked about that obviously.
Skill players aren't enough to go the distance consistently. It will be interesting how he adds some Wisconsin-esque capabilities, if he can.
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With proper management of your playsheet and personnel you can utilize the situation to get invaluable reps for your lower units without embarrassing the opposing players or exposing anybody to injury unnecessarily injury.
Back in the day when Nebraska was still good enough to rout people regularly, Osborne would send in the 2nd teamers and call pretty much the full gamut of running plays, with a short pass or two mixed in. In the last 8-10 minutes the freshmen and walkons would go in, and run base concepts as a building block for the future.
Bill Synder had a different approach; he would send in his backups and run the offense full-bore, just as he'd expect them to play if called upon in crunch time. Eventually the freshmen and walkons would go in, and the offense would stall, but sometimes things got pretty ugly before reaching that point.
Either works, but personally I am not a fan of asking your kids to run into a pile and risk injury just to burn clock. Even a blowout in a 3rd-tier bowl is an opportunity for experience that cannot be replicated in practice. Put it to use, and give your backups something to play for.
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Play to the end. The kids who get to go in late in the game want to play to their capabilities, and the coach has a responsibility to allow them to play. I also believe that it's insulting to the other team, to back off and run nothing.
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In a blow out, I would run a partial playbook. I'm not going to run gimmick plays obviously, nor throw bombs, nor screens, I might have the QB 2 throw some slants or to the TE depending. Late in the game it would be only running plays.
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You are clumping the loss to Minnesota in with the loss to EMU? I didn't realize that the 6-7 Boilermakers should have expected to beat the 7-6 Gophers rather than lose 41-10.
It wasn't just the loss. It was getting blown out by Minnesota that hurt so much. If Purdue had competed in that game, it would have been a much more understandable loss.
And when that comment was posted both teams were 6-6.
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EMU wasn't too bad either to be fair. And at the time Minnesota had just gotten blown out by the worst team in the Big Ten. We didn't know that the Gophers were about to turn a corner.
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It wasn't just the loss. It was getting blown out by Minnesota that hurt so much. If Purdue had competed in that game, it would have been a much more understandable loss.
And when that comment was posted both teams were 6-6.
You've had quite the roller coaster season. From sky is the limit preseason aspirations, to declaring that the EMU loss cost you a chance at a Bowl Game, to the OSU upset generating short lived Big Ten Title hopes, to crashing back to Earth in gut wrenching fashion down the stretch, to winning the Old Oaken Bucket on the road and sneaking into a Bowl Game after all, to the whole Louisville thing, then last and least getting pantsed by an SEC team on National TV and wishing that you'd been right about the Emu loss dashing your Bowl hopes.
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Nah, Year 2 in the program the benefit of the bowl practices grossly outweighs the downside to getting run off the field in a mid tier bowl game.
And losing that but keeping Brohm sends better vibes into the postseason than vice versa.
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True in theory no doubt, but if you were playing better before the bowl practices than after.... did they really help?
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True in theory no doubt, but if you were playing better before the bowl practices than after.... did they really help?
Yes
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Bowl practices help, especially the younger players. Another week of game prep helps. Experience in the post season helps.
The seniors probably benefit a lot less than freshmen obviously.
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You've had quite the roller coaster season. From sky is the limit preseason aspirations, to declaring that the EMU loss cost you a chance at a Bowl Game, to the OSU upset generating short lived Big Ten Title hopes, to crashing back to Earth in gut wrenching fashion down the stretch, to winning the Old Oaken Bucket on the road and sneaking into a Bowl Game after all, to the whole Louisville thing, then last and least getting pantsed by an SEC team on National TV and wishing that you'd been right about the Emu loss dashing your Bowl hopes.
There were no aspirations preseason We knew our roster was still mediocre, our surprisingly good 2017 defense graduated everyone, and our schedule was hell.