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Title: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 07, 2024, 11:08:49 PM
Your school's Mt. Rushmore, but it has to be:
Head Coach
QB
Offensive player
Defensive player
.
Example:
Steve Spurrier
Tim Tebow
Emmitt Smith
Jack Youngblood
.
See how easy it is?!?
Maybe not so easy for some schools.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 07, 2024, 11:11:14 PM
Joe Paterno
Chuck Fusina
Lydell Mitchell
LaVar Arrington
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Hawkinole on March 07, 2024, 11:34:50 PM
Your school's Mt. Rushmore, but it has to be:
Head Coach
QB
Offensive player
Defensive player
.
Example:
Steve Spurrier
Tim Tebow
Emmitt Smith
Jack Youngblood
.
See how easy it is?!?
Maybe not so easy for some schools.
Forest Evashevski
Chuck Long
Nile Kinnick
Cooper Dejean (This is a hard decision - one player from all Iowa defenses of all time (Nile Kinnick, Bob Jeter, Alex Karras, Andre Jackson, Wally Hilgenberg, Adrian Clayborn, Andre Tippett, Jared Devries, Bob Sanders))
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: MarqHusker on March 07, 2024, 11:52:31 PM
Tom Osborne 
Tommie Frazier
Johnny Rodgers
N. Suh

Seems improper to not include a OL, say Dave Rimington.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: ELA on March 07, 2024, 11:58:35 PM
The QB and offensive player are tough.  Duffy and Bubba are the obvious coach and defensive player.

I think I'll give the nod to Connor Cook and Lorenzo White, due to both having 3 great years, even if maybe they didn't have the highest peaks, like a Kenneth Walker or Charles Rogers
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 08, 2024, 02:19:09 AM
Smart
Bennett?
Herschel
Hoage?
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Mdot21 on March 08, 2024, 02:24:05 AM
Coach: Jeem (went to 3 playoffs and won a Natty)

QB is tough....Drew Henson is the best I ever saw, but only got like 10 starts out of him in 3 years. Denard was the most prolific stats wise when you count pass + rush and certainly very exciting to watch- but he didn't win and he was not a great thrower. Rick Leach played in an era where they just didn't throw. Chad Henne was a 4 year starter but he never really got any better after a stellar true freshman year...he was pretty much the same guy- really good but never took a jump. Jeem could be on there. JJ has a case, 27-1 as a starter and won a Natty. Tough.

Offense: Anthony Carter
Defense: Charles Woodson
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on March 08, 2024, 03:19:25 AM
Your school's Mt. Rushmore, but it has to be:
Head Coach
QB
Offensive player
Defensive player
.
Example:
Steve Spurrier
Tim Tebow
Emmitt Smith
Jack Youngblood
.
See how easy it is?!?
Maybe not so easy for some schools.
For Ohio State:
Coach is obvious, has to be Woody.
QB is tricky. Troy Smith is our only Heisman QB but didn't win an NC.

Rex Kern from the 1968 NC team was a Woody QB so he probably had less passing yards in his whole career than some more recent guys have had in a good month.

The two recent NC QB's are interesting but Krenzel was a Tressel caretaker QB and Cardale basically had three phenomenal games.

Several recent QB's have MUCH better passing stats than any prior guys but no NC's or Heisman Trophies.

I'm going to go with Kern because, within his era, he was great. Also, I've watched the 1969 RoseBowl and Kern was absolutely great at hiding the ball. The USC defenders just tackled everybody because they had no idea who had the ball.

Offensive player has to be Archie because nobody else has a two-time Heisman.

Defensive player there are a lot of greats but I'm not sure who to pick. Maybe Tatum.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: MaximumSam on March 08, 2024, 07:51:48 AM
I would probably pick Orlando Pace over Archie. For one, he played while I was alive so I am biased. But for two, you can make the case that he is the best offensive tackle of all time, not something I think you can do for Archie. I would probably pick A.J. Hawk for defense, but again, I'm biased by having seen him as opposed to Jack Tatum or guys like that.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 08, 2024, 08:22:46 AM
Coach: Barry Alvarez
QB: Ron Vander Kelen 
O: Joe Thomas
D: Troy Vincent
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: ELA on March 08, 2024, 08:30:46 AM
I would probably pick Orlando Pace over Archie. For one, he played while I was alive so I am biased. But for two, you can make the case that he is the best offensive tackle of all time, not something I think you can do for Archie.
I don't think I would even put Archie in the top 10 offensive tackles of all time
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 08, 2024, 08:43:14 AM
Some schools might only have a Stone Mountain, instead of a Mt Rushmore. 

A few could merely have a Crazy Horse. 
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 08, 2024, 08:50:10 AM
Seems improper to not include a OL, say Dave Rimington.
or Steinkuhler or Will Shields or Aaron Taylor or Bob "Boomer" Brown or Ed Weir
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 08, 2024, 08:54:53 AM
Darrel Royal
Vince Young
Earl Campbell
Tommy Nobis


You could do Ricky Williams instead of Earl Campbell but I think the other 3 are set.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: MaximumSam on March 08, 2024, 09:05:31 AM
I don't think I would even put Archie in the top 10 offensive tackles of all time
Right! Orlando is like three of Archie.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: MaximumSam on March 08, 2024, 09:08:54 AM
Some schools might only have a Stone Mountain, instead of a Mt Rushmore.

A few could merely have a Crazy Horse.
(https://i.imgur.com/UycJHCW.jpeg)
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 08, 2024, 09:17:00 AM
For UNL, I'd probably have Devany over Ozzy.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on March 08, 2024, 09:57:58 AM
I would probably pick Orlando Pace over Archie. For one, he played while I was alive so I am biased. But for two, you can make the case that he is the best offensive tackle of all time, not something I think you can do for Archie. I would probably pick A.J. Hawk for defense, but again, I'm biased by having seen him as opposed to Jack Tatum or guys like that.
I thought about both of those. I'm with you, Archie and Tatum were before my time but I was in school when Pace played. 

The two Heismans swayed me. As for Hawk vs Tatum, Tatum was close to the Heisman, I don't think Hawk was.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: MaximumSam on March 08, 2024, 10:21:36 AM
I thought about both of those. I'm with you, Archie and Tatum were before my time but I was in school when Pace played.

The two Heismans swayed me. As for Hawk vs Tatum, Tatum was close to the Heisman, I don't think Hawk was.
I don't know that either was very close. Tatum came in 7th in 1970 and 10th in 1969, while Hawk came in 6th in 2005. But they were miles behind the leaders.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 08, 2024, 10:27:18 AM
For UNL, I'd probably have Devany over Ozzy.
I'm still pondering
and I'm old
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 08, 2024, 10:28:15 AM
[img width=333.992 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/UycJHCW.jpeg[/img]

that man could gallop 
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 08, 2024, 10:56:02 AM
Purdue:




Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: jgvol on March 08, 2024, 11:02:02 AM
Robert Neyland 

Peyton Manning

Jason Witten

Reggie White
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 08, 2024, 05:59:01 PM
The Wolverine ones would all be from the pre-leather helmet days. :d030:
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 08, 2024, 07:07:29 PM
Bud Wilkinson
Baker Mayfield
Adrian Peterson
Lee Roy Selmon

Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 08, 2024, 07:09:28 PM
Bobby Dodd
Joe Hamilton
Calvin Johnson
Pat Swilling
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 08, 2024, 07:11:24 PM
Rockne
Bertelli
Ismail
Page
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 08, 2024, 08:11:45 PM
Bud Wilkinson
Baker Mayfield
Adrian Peterson
Lee Roy Selmon


Looks appropriate.

I'll do sort of a reverse-Rushmore based on who an archival hated the most, which means it might be pretty close to what an actual Sooner might say:

Barry $witzer
Josh Heupel
Adrian Peterson
Brian Bosworth

Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 09, 2024, 04:02:58 AM
I think Ricky Williams is underrated.
In his worst yards-per-carry season, he had 2,000 yards and 27 TDs, lol.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 09, 2024, 04:28:43 AM
Bellotti
Mariota
Moore (Rashad)
Ngata

Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 09, 2024, 09:28:00 AM
Looks appropriate.

I'll do sort of a reverse-Rushmore based on who an archival hated the most, which means it might be pretty close to what an actual Sooner might say:

Barry $witzer
Josh Heupel
Adrian Peterson
Brian Bosworth


Billy Sims
 Setting the Big Eight record with 1,762 yards in 1978, Sims averaged 7.0 yards per carry and found the end zone 20 times on the ground. The Hooks, TX, product logged four 200-yard games ad won the Heisman Trophy. In 1979, Sims finished with 1,670 yards and scored 23 touchdowns, but 529 yards came in the Sooners' final two regular season games against Missouri and Nebraska, after a portion of the Heisman ballots had already been cast. As a result, he finished runner-up to USC’s Charles White, becoming one of only six players to ever win the award and finish second. He wrapped up his OU career with 164 yards in the Orange Bowl against Florida State and ended with 4,118 career rushing yards, still good for second in program history. Sims was taken with the No. 1 overall pick in the 1980 NFL Draft by the Detroit Lions
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 09, 2024, 09:54:24 AM
yup Billy Sims would be a good choice too

And for Texas Cedric Benson would also be a worthy selection.  But it's kind of hard to pick him over Ricky or Earl.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 09, 2024, 10:02:03 AM
Cedric Benson doesn't sit well with me.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 09, 2024, 10:12:30 AM
Cedric Benson doesn't sit well with me.
Top 10 all time rusher.  In fact I think Texas is the only school to have 2 on that list.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 09, 2024, 10:26:04 AM
Great player until he got to Chicago.

* Means bowl stats included.

(https://i.imgur.com/2Hy2txe.png)
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 09, 2024, 10:42:53 AM
Great player until he got to Chicago.

(https://i.imgur.com/1VtBbdC.png)

This is a college football university-specific Mt. Rushmore.  

Benson's NFL career stats are better than Ron Dayne's but I'm sure you think Dayne belongs on your Rushmore...
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 09, 2024, 10:59:32 AM
That same list (minus G5, because no), by yards per carry:
Dayne - 5.7
Williams - 6.2
Taylor - 6.7
Dorsett - 5.7
Freeman - 5.9
White  - 5.5
Benson - 5.0
.
Benson had the same number of carries as Dayne, with 800 fewer yards.
Not elite.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 09, 2024, 11:12:11 AM
Taylor is the best RB I've seen at Wisconsin. But Dayne did more for the program, including 2 Rose Bowl MVP awards, won a Heisman, and his name is on the Camp Randall facade. 

Taylor should have won a Heisman, but those are for QB's only now.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 09, 2024, 11:13:17 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/1VtBbdC.png)

This is a college football university-specific Mt. Rushmore. 

Benson's NFL career stats are better than Ron Dayne's but I'm sure you think Dayne belongs on your Rushmore...
Yes, I know. He screwed himself off the field.

Dayne got a raw deal in New York. The coach hated him.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 09, 2024, 11:22:08 AM
NFL, I know - who cares. But just for kicks.

Dayne

(https://i.imgur.com/UQ2clSY.png)

Benson (RIP)

(https://i.imgur.com/ADkNnu2.png)

Same YPC. Benson better at receiving and not better at fumbling. Similar TD's.

Overall, Benson was better because he got more attempts.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 09, 2024, 11:26:35 AM
Yes, I know. He screwed himself off the field.

Dayne got a raw deal in New York. The coach hated him.
And Benson got a raw deal in Chicago because the Bears still suck, the Bears still suck, they really really really really really really suck.  The Bears... still... suck.
We can do this all day.

Benson in the NFL had more yards, more TDs, and was a significantly better receiver.  Overall, a better back.  But I'm not claiming Dayne doesn't belong on a Mt. Rushmore for Wisconsin.

It's all moot though because Ricky Williams and Earl Campbell exist, and deserve to be on the mountain more than poor Cedric (RIP).
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 09, 2024, 11:45:52 AM
And Benson got a raw deal in Chicago because the Bears still suck, the Bears still suck, they really really really really really really suck.  The Bears... still... suck.
We can do this all day.


Benson in the NFL had more yards, more TDs, and was a significantly better receiver.  Overall, a better back.  But I'm not claiming Dayne doesn't belong on a Mt. Rushmore for Wisconsin.

It's all moot though because Ricky Williams and Earl Campbell exist, and deserve to be on the mountain more than poor Cedric (RIP).

Not really. The Bears went to a Superbowl with Benson. They were pretty good there for a while.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on March 09, 2024, 11:48:54 AM
Not really. The Bears went to a Superbowl with defense. The defense was pretty good there for a while.
FTFY. 
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: iahawk15 on March 09, 2024, 12:17:54 PM
Forest Evashevski
Chuck Long
Nile Kinnick
Cooper Dejean (This is a hard decision - one player from all Iowa defenses of all time (Nile Kinnick, Bob Jeter, Alex Karras, Andre Jackson, Wally Hilgenberg, Adrian Clayborn, Andre Tippett, Jared Devries, Bob Sanders))
I'd go Larry Station for defense. Karras is probably #2 for me.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Mdot21 on March 09, 2024, 12:23:50 PM
FTFY.
yeah it's actually crazy....the Bears D was so good for awhile there with Urlacher & Briggs that they went all the way to the Super Bowl with freakin baby-hands Rex Grossman as the QB. Pretty remarkable when you think about it.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Mdot21 on March 09, 2024, 12:26:29 PM
The Wolverine ones would all be from the pre-leather helmet days. :d030:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvd6nzDPv5I
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 09, 2024, 01:41:12 PM
Bob Devaney
Turner Gill
Dave Rimmington
Suh
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 09, 2024, 09:55:59 PM
I'd go Larry Station for defense. Karras is probably #2 for me.
I was wondering about him, too.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 09, 2024, 10:35:47 PM
good kid out of Omaha
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Hawkinole on March 09, 2024, 11:03:46 PM
Purdue:


  • Coach: Jack Mollenkopf. By a landslide. Stands alone.
  • QB: Drew Brees. Honorable mention to Bob Griese but opting for Brees because it's more of the modern passing era.
  • Offense: Leroy Keyes. Honorable mention to Mike Alstott.
  • Defense: Rod Woodson. Honorable mention to Ryan Kerrigan.
Len Dawson has to be right up there, too.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 10, 2024, 07:47:19 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/VyJF00n.png)
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 10, 2024, 09:33:06 AM
Len Dawson has to be right up there, too.
Why?
Didn't lead Purdue to a good record.
More INTs than TDs
Happened to have the highest volume in the B1G (including INTs)
.
Basically anonymous until his 6th year in the NFL.  
Why include him here?
.
Hey, I've heard of Dan Fouts!  Maybe he should be on Oregon's Mt. Rushmore!!
Oh wait, horrific garbage production in college.
CAN.....WE....PLEASE....DIFFFERENTIATE....BETWEEN ....COLLEGE...AND.....PRO?!??!?!?!
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: MaximumSam on March 10, 2024, 10:26:31 AM
Why?
Didn't lead Purdue to a good record.
More INTs than TDs
Happened to have the highest volume in the B1G (including INTs)
.
Basically anonymous until his 6th year in the NFL. 
Why include him here?
.
Hey, I've heard of Dan Fouts!  Maybe he should be on Oregon's Mt. Rushmore!!
Oh wait, horrific garbage production in college.
CAN.....WE....PLEASE....DIFFFERENTIATE....BETWEEN ....COLLEGE...AND.....PRO?!??!?!?!
The man is in the Hall of Fame and is among the best football players to ever put on a helmet. Of course he is going to get a mention.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: CatsbyAZ on March 10, 2024, 10:38:30 AM
?????*

Dan Marino

Larry Fitzgerald

Aaron Donald

*Their most successful coaches are coaches more known for their work elsewhere:
-Johnny Majors: 4 Seasons '73-'76 (plus a failed 2nd stint in the mid-90s); .713 winning %; 1976 National Championship; more famous as Tennessee's HC for 16 seasons
-Jackie Sherrill: 5 Seasons; .842 winning %; 3 national championship runs (though did not win outright); more known as coach for Texas A&M and Miss State

Walt Harris and Dave Wannstedt were fired well into winning tenures. Pat Narduzzi is going into his 10th season, the school's longest tenured coach since the 1960s.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 10, 2024, 11:26:22 AM
Who are the Mt Rushmores for the perennial cellar dwellers? Vanderbilt, Oregon State, etc. 
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 10, 2024, 11:56:03 AM
The man is in the Hall of Fame and is among the best football players to ever put on a helmet. Of course he is going to get a mention.
Which Hall of Fame?  The overall football HOF located in Bumfuck, VT? 

Why, oh why, are there separate Halls of Fame for pro and college football?!?  Gee whiz!  Keeping them separate hurts m-m-m-my brain stem!
(https://assets.mycast.io/actor_images/actor-tugg-speedman-tropic-thunder-856896_large.jpg?1693534092)



FFS
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 10, 2024, 12:03:11 PM
Who are the Mt Rushmores for the perennial cellar dwellers? Vanderbilt, Oregon State, etc.
Vanderbilt:
HC Dan McGugin (100 years ago, when they were good)
QB Jay Cutler
WR Jordan Matthews
LB Zach Cunningham
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 10, 2024, 12:04:10 PM
Oregon State actually has some offensive dudes....neither Chad Ocho Johnson nor TJ Houschmanotgonnaworkhereanymore made their all-time team in Whoa Nellie.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 10, 2024, 12:13:04 PM
I really wasn't going to criticize anyone's input on this, and I'm not exactly doing that here, but Jesus Christ people, why in the holy hell are we unable to separate college and NFL?!?  What is the mental block in understanding that they are completely different entities and that one can be the best ever in one and very pedestrian in the other?  There are a million examples.  Laser-arm guys getting drafted #1 despite being no one's All-American and winning fuck-all for their school.  Heisman winners dominating college football and not even getting drafted in the NFL.
They.  Are.  Separate.  Entities.
.
Now, to be fair to Mr. Len Dawson.  He was a 3rd-team All-American one year, when it was a sin to pass the ball.  He was good for his era, but not special.  
And this is not a criticism, but I would think that a Purdue fan might mention a Kyle Orton or a Phipps or a Herrmann long before Len Dawson (of NFL fame) was brought up.  That's all.  Guys who were good in their era, but without the notoriety playing for pay gets you.  

I love college football and with that comes a wish for everyone to respect that it's its own thing.  Because it is.  1st round busts still had great college careers.  And guys in Canton may or may not have made 2nd-team all-conference.  

That's all.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 10, 2024, 01:42:04 PM
Exactly why JJ Watt was not in contention for defense. One great year and then off to the league. Same goes for Russell at QB.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 10, 2024, 01:51:53 PM
Exactly why JJ Watt was not in contention for defense. One great year and then off to the league. Same goes for Russell at QB.
That's a whole other thing.  No one-year wonders?  That boots out Barry Sanders and Cam Newton.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: MaximumSam on March 10, 2024, 03:15:12 PM

Quote
I really wasn't going to criticize anyone's input on this, and I'm not exactly doing that here, but Jesus Christ people, why in the holy hell are we unable to separate college and NFL?!? 
Because you are asking for the greatest players at a program, and obviously players who excel at the highest level of the sport are going to be mentioned, since they are in fact the greatest football players. If you talked about the Mt. Rushmore of your high school, you might take the guy who became president of the United States, even if in high school he was kind of quiet and reserved.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 10, 2024, 03:33:03 PM
Here, since I started the thread, I get to regulate the framework.  
.
Please only include what a coach/player did while at the school(s).  
There.
You can fall in line now.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 10, 2024, 05:28:04 PM
I think Ricky Williams is underrated.
In his worst yards-per-carry season, he had 2,000 yards and 27 TDs, lol.

Just saw this looking back through the thread, but is he actually underrated?  He's #3 on the all-time list, #2 among backs playing for major schools, and he'd be an easy #1 if he hadn't spent his first 2 years as a fullback blocking for Priest Holmes.

But of course I don't really know how people outside of Austin approach his career.  If folks don't consider him as a strong contender for the best college football running back of all time, then I guess he's underrated, by stupid people.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 10, 2024, 06:33:25 PM
I'd say Walker, Bo, Williams, Dayne, Dorsett, Charles White, Campbell and Taylor should all be in that discussion.

Taylor would have smashed a lot of the records had he stayed one more season. But I don't blame him for not staying, of course. I wouldn't either.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 11, 2024, 12:27:53 AM
Taylor was the first to surpass Walker in terms of a 3-year career.  So from '82 to '19....37 years?  
Jeez.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 11, 2024, 12:34:29 AM
HC: Bowden
QB: Ward
WR: Warrick
CB: Sanders

FSU is hard because of some great RBs and defenders.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 11, 2024, 12:37:54 AM
HC: Blaik
QB: McAda
FB: Blanchad
CB: Davis (decent fill-in at RB, too)

Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 11, 2024, 12:03:13 PM
HC: Homer H Norton
QB: Johnny Manziel
RB: John David Crow
D: Von Miller


Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 11, 2024, 01:10:52 PM
Here, since I started the thread, I get to regulate the framework. 
good luck
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 11, 2024, 02:31:02 PM
HC: Mike Leach
QB: Graham Harrell
WR: Michael Crabtree
LB: Zach Thomas


Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: CatsbyAZ on March 11, 2024, 03:06:03 PM
HC: Mike Leach
QB: Graham Harrell
WR: Michael Crabtree
LB: Zach Thomas

These are my exact choices as well.

Texas Tech might be a good example of OAM wanting us to “include what a coach/player did while at the school.” Not considering their NFL reputation.

Most people would probably put Patrick Mahomes at QB. The case can be made for Mahomes because he is third highest among Tech’s passing leaders. However Graham Harrell’s four seasons of productive passing push him far ahead of everybody else.

Michael Crabtree only ranks 6th in program receptions, however he only had two seasons to work with. He ranks 2nd in program Receiving yards and 1st in receiving TDs. Of close note, Wes Welker is 2nd in all-time receptions, 3rd in receiving yards, and 9th in receiving TDs.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 11, 2024, 03:12:13 PM
These are my exact choices as well.

Texas Tech might be a good example of OAM wanting us to “include what a coach/player did while at the school.” Not considering their NFL reputation.

Most people would probably put Patrick Mahomes at QB. The case can be made for Mahomes because he is third highest among Tech’s passing leaders. However Graham Harrell’s four seasons of productive passing push him far ahead of everybody else.

Michael Crabtree only ranks 6th in program receptions, however he only had two seasons to work with. He ranks 2nd in program Receiving yards and 1st in receiving TDs. Of close note, Wes Welker is 2nd in all-time receptions, 3rd in receiving yards, and 9th in receiving TDs.


Yeah I went back and forth on a couple of those.

One of my close friends who is a TT grad would likely put Kliff Kingsbury and Wes Welker as the two offensive players.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 11, 2024, 09:58:56 PM
Iowa State? Northwestern? Rice? 
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 12, 2024, 02:46:52 AM
Zach Thomas might be the easiest pick of any team in the country, lol.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: CatsbyAZ on March 12, 2024, 08:03:44 AM
HC: Gary Patterson
QB: Andy Dalton
Off: LaDainian Tomlinson
Def: Kyle Clifton
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 12, 2024, 08:21:01 AM
Iowa State? Northwestern? Rice?
HC: Ara Parseghian
QB: Steve Schnur
O: Mike Adamle
D: Pat Fitzgerald
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 12, 2024, 11:43:43 AM
I'd have to google every position for Rice.  I might be able to put one together for Baylor but I don't want to.

Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Mdot21 on March 12, 2024, 11:57:24 AM
HC: John Cooper
QB: Johnny Utah  
Offense: Shane Falco 
Defense: Vontae Mack
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 12, 2024, 12:39:41 PM
I'd have to google every position for Rice.  I might be able to put one together for Baylor but I don't want to.


Rice would be tough at non-QB offense, with a great RB Trevor Cobb and a record-setting WR Jarrett Dillard.  No clue on anyone else, tbh.  I'd have to research it.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: jgvol on March 12, 2024, 01:11:48 PM
I'd have to google every position for Rice.  I might be able to put one together for Baylor but I don't want to.



Art Briles

RG3

Lache Seastrunk  (not many choices here)

Mike Singletary
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: CatsbyAZ on March 13, 2024, 09:15:42 AM
HC: Paul Pasqualoni
QB: Donovan McNabb
Off: Jim Brown
Def: Dwight Freeney
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 13, 2024, 08:16:20 PM
HC:  Jimmy Johnson
QB:  Vinny Testaverde
OFF: Edgerrin James
DEF: Daniel Stubbs
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: CatsbyAZ on March 14, 2024, 08:23:04 AM
HC: Charlie Weiss
QB: Brady Quinn
Off: Jeff Samardzija
Def: Tom Zbikowski
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 14, 2024, 09:15:49 PM
HC: Charlie Weiss
QB: Brady Quinn
Off: Jeff Samardzija
Def: Tom Zbikowski
1-year Rushmore?
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 14, 2024, 09:45:04 PM
Temple? Wake Forest? Washington State? 
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Mdot21 on March 15, 2024, 02:46:21 AM
1-year Rushmore?
HC: Gene Chizik, Auburn 
QB: Joe Burrow, LSU 
Offense: Barry Sanders, RB, Oklahoma State
Defense: Scooby Wright, LB, Arizona
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 15, 2024, 09:06:57 AM
1-year Rushmore?
1982

Tom Osborne
Turner Gill
Dave Rimmington
Steve Damkroger
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 15, 2024, 07:53:44 PM
"We're going to need a bigger mountain range."
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on March 15, 2024, 08:16:41 PM
(https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/20210226_152427-1024x461.jpg)
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 15, 2024, 09:13:54 PM
HC: Gene Chizik, Auburn
QB: Joe Burrow, LSU
Offense: Barry Sanders, RB, Oklahoma State
Defense: Scooby Wright, LB, Arizona
Another Scooby Wright-type season was Clemson LB Keith Adams.  As a SOPH, he had 186 tackles, 35 TFL, and 16 sacks.
Short and fast.
(https://i0.wp.com/clemsonjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/20190704_021029.jpg?resize=672%2C858&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 16, 2024, 12:29:49 AM
SEC Mt Rushmore:

HC:  Nick Saban
QB:  Tim Tebow
OFF: Herschel Walker
DEF: Derrick Thomas
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: CatsbyAZ on March 16, 2024, 01:12:04 PM
SEC Mt Rushmore:

HC:  Bear Bryant
QB:  Peyton Manning
OFF: Bo Jackson
DEF: So many debatable choices - Champ Bailey?
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Mdot21 on March 17, 2024, 10:11:38 AM
B1G mount rushmore....


Coach: Woody Hayes, Ohio State 
QB: Drew Brees, Purdue
Offense: Ron Dayne, RB, Wisconsin
Defense: Charles Woodson, CB, Michigan
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 17, 2024, 10:19:38 AM
B1G mount rushmore....


Coach: Woody Hayes, Ohio State
QB: Drew Brees, Purdue
Offense: Ron Dayne, RB, Wisconsin
Defense: Charles Woodson, CB, Michigan
Paterno?
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 17, 2024, 11:16:41 AM
most of Joe's victories as an Indy
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 17, 2024, 11:47:18 AM
I know, but he did actually coach in the Big Ten.

Won 3 Big Ten titles and had an MNC stolen in 1994.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: Mdot21 on March 17, 2024, 12:00:07 PM
I know, but he did actually coach in the Big Ten.

Won 3 Big Ten titles and had an MNC stolen in 1994.
Yeah, and he wasn’t as successful in the B1G as Woody Hayes was in the B1G so it’s kind of a moot point. Most of Paterno’s big successes came as an independent. He wasn’t all that successful in the B1G, often finishing second or third fiddle to Michigan or Ohio State.

Woody won 13 B1G titles and 3 undisputed mythical MNC’s. He has to be the guy when it talking B1G. 
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 17, 2024, 12:25:50 PM
Yeah, and he wasn’t as successful in the B1G as Woody Hayes was in the B1G so it’s kind of a moot point. Most of Paterno’s big successes came as an independent. He wasn’t all that successful in the B1G, often finishing second or third fiddle to Michigan or Ohio State.

Woody won 13 B1G titles and 3 undisputed mythical MNC’s. He has to be the guy when it talking B1G.
I agree. 
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 17, 2024, 12:54:16 PM
Won 3 Big Ten titles and had an MNC stolen in 1994.
I would have been ok with a split in 94
would have been much better if they could have settled it on the field

The Ducks weren't as impressive as the Canes on their home field


 1994 Oregon Ducks football team

Oregon opened with a win over Portland State, but then lost to non-conference opponents Utah and Hawaii. However, on October 1, 1994, the Ducks pulled off a surprise trouncing of #19 USC, a team that the Ducks had defeated only one other time since 1972. Two weeks after defeating #19 USC the Ducks upset #9 Washington in a game that sparked a period of unprecedented success in the Oregon-Washington rivalry. They would go on to win the rest of their conference games, excepting a week 6 loss to Washington State, including a 10–9 victory over Arizona. The season ended with a 17–13 win over Oregon State with the Rose Bowl on the line. Oregon finished in sole possession of first place, with Arizona and USC tied for second.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 18, 2024, 12:49:24 AM
B1G mount rushmore....


Coach: Woody Hayes, Ohio State
QB: Drew Brees, Purdue
Offense: Ron Dayne, RB, Wisconsin
Defense: Charles Woodson, CB, Michigan
There's a bunch of better QBs than him.  Insanely overrated.  He threw the ball A LOT.  That's about it.
What people usually don't remember about him is his running - almost 1,000 career rushing yards.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 18, 2024, 08:32:16 AM
One year wonders Wisconsin

Bret Bielema 2006
QB Russell Wilson 2011
O Melvin Gordon 2014
D Tom Burke 1998


Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: utee94 on March 18, 2024, 08:54:49 AM
Paterno's tainted legacy doesn't belong anywhere near a Mt. Rushmore of any kind.  He and Art Briles can have their faces carved together on a pimple on the outhouse of college football.

Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 18, 2024, 09:04:39 AM
I would like to know what he knew, and when he knew it.

When he was dying, he said he should have done more. Like what, and for what?
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: jgvol on March 18, 2024, 12:51:29 PM
SEC Mt Rushmore:

HC:  Nick Saban
QB:  Tim Tebow
OFF: Herschel Walker
DEF: Derrick Thomas
HC:  Bear Bryant
QB:  Peyton Manning
OFF: Bo Jackson
DEF: So many debatable choices - Champ Bailey?

Def:  Reggie White
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 18, 2024, 07:14:42 PM
I want Tebow running the dive option with Hershel Walker at FB and Bo outside.  
Defend that on 3rd and 1.
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: FearlessF on March 18, 2024, 11:28:48 PM
even with those 3

gonna need an O-line

or Warren Sapp or William Perry eat your lunch
Title: Re: Mt. Rushmore with template
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 19, 2024, 12:20:39 AM
even with those 3

gonna need an O-line

or Warren Sapp or William Perry eat your lunch
No defense could stuff Herschel, stuff Tebow, and then catch Bo.