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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on July 14, 2022, 03:58:02 PM
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The resumes:
1993 Notre Dame (11-1)
- Beat #3 Michigan by 4 and #1 Florida State by 7, to reach #1 going into the final game, all other wins were by 15+ points
- Lost 41-39 to #17 Boston College in the final game of the regular season, to miss a shot at a national championship
- Beat #7 Texas A&M 24-21 in the Cotton Bowl
- All-Americans: OT Aaron Taylor (unanimous), CB Jeff Burris (consensus), OC Tim Ruddy, DT Bryant Young, CB Bobby Taylor
1996 Nebraska (11-2)
- Shut out in Week 2 by #17 Arizona State, to snap 26 game overall winning streak, and 37 game regular season, dating back to November 14, 1992
- Beat #16 Kansas State by 36, and #5 Colorado
- Upset by Texas in the inaugural Big XII Championship Game
- Beat #10 Virginia Tech 41-21 in the Orange Bowl
- #9 S&P+ team of the 90s
- All-Americans: OC Aaron Taylor (consensus), DE Grant Wistrom (consensus), OG Chris Dishman, DE Jared Tomich
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Obligatory post if we are discussing '93 Irish
https://youtu.be/cipJq3ZHuuQ
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tough call
be really tough for me to vote for the Domers, even if they weren't up against the Huskers
both had blemishes - Boston College wasn't great, neither was 96 Texas
both had losses to great teams, 93 FSU and 96 Zona were great - the Buckeyes remember
I think 93 Nebraska would have beat hell outa the 93 Irish, but the 93 Huskers were better than the 96 Huskers
maybe I'll reserve my vote for a tiebreaker
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It is REALLY hard for me to vote for the Domers but I think they are the better of these two. Their loss to BC was simply a bad hangover after the big win over FSU, it happens.
I think that 1996 Nebraska may be a tad overrated based on their proximity to some REALLY good Nebraska teams. This was a rebuilding year for them sandwiched between back-to-back NC's in 1994/5 and another in 1997. The ASU loss wasn't close and it was to a good but not completely great team while the B12CG loss was to a not great Texas team.
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well, the loss to Texas was just that voodoo hex crap - no logical explanation, not even bad hangover
many rumors about walkin into the buzzsaw in Tempe that night - some about the O-line not liking the new hotshot QB that transferred in from Stanford
I think it was overconfidence after the 77–28 beatdown in Lincoln the year before. and the impending motivation the devils had after that beating
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Often an upset is due to fumbles, and this game is perhaps a pretty good example of that. 3-0.
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6 total fumbles by the Huskers - only 3 lost
Jake did toss one pick
the 3 safeties are crazy - takes some poor luck
other than passing yards the game was even
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Post-Brady Quinn-Charlie Weis Notre Dame vs Scott Frost Nebraska?
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Boo Hoo Lou Holtz neck brace vs QB Scott Frost
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Often an upset is due to fumbles, and this game is perhaps a pretty good example of that. 3-0.
Did you watch the game?
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I did
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If anyone wants to poopoo the idea of letdown games, I give you 1993 ND vs BC. They slayed the dragon, then fell on their face the next week. These are 20 year old kids.
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Anywho, that ND team was weird. Unproductive QB.....kind of ran the option....somehow had 2 All-American CBs AND a shitty pass defense. But their RBs averaged 6 yards a pop and their KR averaged 41 yds per return.
Because they beat that FSU team and probably had no business doing so makes me not want to pick against them.
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The 96 Huskers were good, except when they weren't. Frost was okay, but better in 97. Green was okay, but not his peak.
If we cut off after 95 and say they were starting again (reloading, retooling, whatever the hell), this team is like the 1990 FSU team.....good, but the returning cast would be better the following year.
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I did
You are not him. :57:
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all 3 of us are aware
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the more I dig into the stats and matchups, the more I lean to the Husker's defense shutting down Notre Dame and winning a game between the two on the field
the resumes are close
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Did you watch the game?
I did, and O was rooting for ASU because they were ranked ahead of tOSU but I don't remember much because:
- I was in college and watching at a party, and
- It was 26 years ago, and
- Alcohol may have been involved (see #1 above).
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both had losses to great teams, 93 FSU and 96 Zona were great - the Buckeyes remember
But ND beat FSU
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This talk of 1996 reminds me …
It is buckwild that one drive separated ASU from a national title and Spurrier from never winning one.
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But ND beat FSU
good point
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I did, and O was rooting for ASU because they were ranked ahead of tOSU but I don't remember much because:
- I was in college and watching at a party, and
- It was 26 years ago, and
- Alcohol may have been involved (see #1 above).
What I recall from the game was that Nebraska wasn't going to win even if they played 20 quarters.
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This talk of 1996 reminds me …
It is buckwild that one drive separated ASU from a national title and Spurrier from never winning one.
Then he would have won one another year. Butterfly effect and all.
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Then he would have won one another year. Butterfly effect and all.
Could've gotten the Gamecocks to the mountaintop, I suppose.
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the more I dig into the stats and matchups, the more I lean to the Husker's defense shutting down Notre Dame and winning a game between the two on the field
the resumes are close
I think in single games like this, it's turnovers that most often make the difference, and TOs largely are not predictable.
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ND
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I think in single games like this, it's turnovers that most often make the difference, and TOs largely are not predictable.
Except that good QBs tend to throw fewer INTs and traditional option teams tend to have more fumbles (and thus, lost fumbles).
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Well, nothing says 90's college football like an inability to break ties
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Doc Tom Osborne - 3 ties - 1 in the 90s when the Buffs blocked the 41 yard FG on the last play of the game
Boo Hoo Lou Holtz - 7 ties - 3 in the 90s